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Avatar, Great Achievement, or a Liberal/Communist Indoctrination Campaign?

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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 03:41 PM
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Like many of you, I was enthralled, and mesmerized by the previews of the movie Avatar, but when i decided to look at reviews of the movie, and the points that James Cameron is trying to convey with the movie, I realized what this movie really is. It is nothing more than the raving rantings of a Liberal/Communist who he himself has stated how "greed and Capitalism tends to destroy the environment."

To all those Liberals out there who state that they do not embrace Communism, then you shouldn't be embracing the lies, and exagerations that this man, among some others is trying to indoctrinate into our young, and old alike.

Believe it or not, I do love the environment. I believe in being as environmentally concious as possible, but not at the cost of human suffering, and even death.

I also love fantasy, in fact in my library there are as many books on fantasy as there are about history, science, and spiritual awareness.

I still listen to music from Yanni, Enya, Loreena Mckennitt, Clannad, and a myriad of other so called "new age" music. I also listen to Nickelback, Evanesence, 3 Doors Down, Bon Jovi, etc, depending on my mood, and what I want to listen to.

I used to donate money to environmental causes, but when I started seeing the undertones of Communism being manifested through environmental groups, I decided to stop donating to these groups.

Whether we like it or not, we are also human beings, and as such technology is an integral part of who we are.

Why is it that James Cameron doesn't blame Communism for the destruction of the environment, which is 100 times worse than anything Capitalism has done?

Instead he embraced Communist ideals and is trying to indoctrinate these ideas through his new movie.

If you don't believe me, then read, and watch the following interview of James Cameron.


Newsbusters: Prompted by NBC's Meredith Vieira, on Monday's Today show, Avatar director James Cameron revealed the liberal undertones in his new blockbuster as he told the Today co-anchor the plot centers on how greed and imperialism "tends to destroy the environment..." and how the human characters in the sci-fi flick "are doing the same thing on another pristine planet that we've done on earth."

Big Hollywood's John Nolte reports, in his review of the film, "Avatar is a thinly disguised, heavy-handed and simplistic sci-fi fantasy/allegory critical of America from our founding straight through to the Iraq War," in which the human characters want to "strip mine" the alien planet for its resources.

Avatar Liberal/Communist Propaganda

The movie doesn't even center on all of humanity, but as James Cameron himself admits it centers it's blame on "Capitalism", and on "Imperialism."

I haven't even watched the movie, but what i have read so far conveys the following plot.

In the movie, a young Marine is injured, and he loses the function of his legs, but he is given a new oportunity to walk, when he is offered the chance to link his conciousness to the body of an alien being which was captured.

The Marine then is set loose on the alien planet, trying to find a way to infiltrate the city of the aliens, because "the evil greedy AMERICANS want to take over this world, and they need to scout the defenses of the alien race."

The Marine then falls in love with a young, alluring, beautiful alien, in alien standards, and has to decide whether he will side with "the greedy Imperialist Americans, or with the woman he loves, and his new alien friends."

I don't have to mention that the aliens kick the butt of the "greedy Imperialistic Americans"....

Why is it that James Cameron, among some others did not blame Communism, and even Socialism?

Do I have to mention how many times the Russian government has complained about movies which show the evilness of Communism?

But is this the only movie that the Liberals, I should really say the Communists in Hollywood have used to convey Communist ideals?

Not really, not that long ago there was another movie of Che, portraying him as a hero, and a people's fighter.

Well, I was born in Cuba, and I have heard the stories of surviving family members who saw how their father, or cousin, or brother, or several family members where executed by Che Guevara, and his thugs because they didn't want to embrace Communism.

Hollywood is selling a lie, and indoctrinating young people into believing, and embracing the Communist ideals.

If people can't see this by now, i don't think they'll ever will.

Have you ever walked through the streets of a Communist country? or even a somewhat Socialist country like....

Just look at what has, and is happening in Naples Italy.


A two-week-long garbage crisis in Naples, Italy has left the streets strewn with giant piles of trash, restaurant owners fuming, and politicians at their wits' end (it's the latter's fault, actually -- they forgot to build enough dumps). I dread to think what NYC would look like after something like that:


www.nowpublic.com...

I have walked through the streets of Cuba with my cousins, and have seen first hand the mountain piles of trash that you can find in every other corner, in the sections of Havana Cuba that tourists are warned not to visit.

The same thing is happening in EVERY country in the world, and this has NOTHING to do with "Capitalism".... But that is what the Socialist/Globalist elites would love for you to beleive, so you will embrace the new form of Global Socialism/Communism that they have planned for all of us.

Back to the Avatar movie... This movie is nothing more than another propaganda machine, and even by the admission of Liberal, or I should say Communist James Cameron, he blames the "greed of Capitalism, and Imperialism ( which means let's blame mainly the United States) for all the problems that are happening in the world.

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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 03:49 PM
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Where did he say he was a communist? I missed that part.

I totally agree that greed and imperialism have destroyed our planet and it's treasures. Case in point were the Spaniards who destroyed all the written work of the South and Central American Indians they conquered because they thought them the works of the devil as they ravaged the continent for gold. Then there is the CIA who ran amok around the world killing people and starting wars to create a better business climate for AMERICAN BIG BUSINESS.

Five stars, three cheers, and two thumbs up for AVATAR and JAMES CAMERON, but no flags and stars for you.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 03:58 PM
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I hear what your saying OP however i think we all have to accept responsibility for our own actions. Its pointless pointing the finger of blame on one man. That is his vision and like us all we have our own agendas. It is simply a matter of choice. If the viewers choose to watch the movie who are we to say otherwise. that is their choice and if they are influenced then so be it. I am sure there are many intelligent people that will watch the movie and have a myrad of diverse opinions on it. If people allow a movie to condition them into thinking a certain way then that is their business not ours. Like i said each is responsible for themselves. Personally i cant wait to see the movie this weekend. When i am done i will reach my own conclusions but i will not allow it to change my perception of the world and my intentions of peace and love for all humanity. On another note i was in naples a few weeks back and i heard about the rubiish collection issue. I have spoken to family from their recently and they seemed very happy with life and looking forward to christmas. no mention of any major issues out there. Sometime we can assume the worst rather than look at the positives...just my opinion though.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by groingrinder
Where did he say he was a communist? I missed that part.


He has embraced the Communist ideas that "Imperialism, and Capitalism are a problem", and he is blaming MAINLY the United States....

He might not say he is Communist, he claims to be Liberal, but he is a Communist sorry to say.

If you embrace an ideal, for example, if a toung white American embraces the National Socialist ideals of Nazi Germany, no matter how many times he calls himself a "true white Christian", or some other name, he is just a Nazi.

In the same manner James Cameron is embracing and spreading the Communist ideals.




Originally posted by groingrinder
I totally agree that greed and imperialism have destroyed our planet and it's treasures. Case in point were the Spaniards who destroyed all the written work of the South and Central American Indians they conquered because they thought them the works of the devil as they ravaged the continent for gold. Then there is the CIA who ran amok around the world killing people and starting wars to create a better business climate for AMERICAN BIG BUSINESS.


Wow... did you know that Native Americans WERE CAPITALISTS?.... Yes sir, they navigated rivers, and crossed through different lands of other tribes, before the white man arrived, to exchange goods. That is CAPITALISM.....

But a young naive person such as yourself obviously doesn't know this, and will never admit to it.



Originally posted by groingrinder
Five stars, three cheers, and two thumbs up for AVATAR and JAMES CAMERON, but no flags and stars for you.


Good for you, become a Communist all you like. But tell you what, if you have gotten away from your mommy's garage, and IF you have a job, then buy yourself a ticket to Communist Cuba, or even Vietnam, and hang out with the regular people and then come back here and tell us how good Communism really is....



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by spirit777child
I hear what your saying OP however i think we all have to accept responsibility for our own actions.
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That's good and well, but James Cameron is trying to blame everything, including all environmental problems on "the greed of the American Capitalists, and Imperialism".

Just watch the video in that article I gave.

Actually, here is the video.

www.eyeblast.tv...

BTW, don't tell me that young adults, and even kids are not influence by the ideas protrayed in movies.

I am certain many of your ideas have come from watching at least one movie or two.

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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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so if i have this right mr camron is saying that imperialism (a form of dictorial government) and greed is responsible for the current state of the world?

Whats so wrong with that analasys?

what would you say is responsible for the state of the world?

Remember it is just an opinion, nothing more nothing less...

and as eminem once put it opinions are like a**holes everybody has to have one...

I wouldnt take it so seriously...personally.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:21 PM
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The movie shows AMERICANS, and Just AMERICANS, as wanting to take over this new world. Socialists/Communists have done the same thing. From Hitler, to The Russian Communist Government, to China.

Capitalism is not to be blamed, and when people talk about Imperialism, they are talking mainly about the U.S.

The statements of James Cameron are the motto of Communists.

Communists around the world always blame "Imperialism, and Capitalism", and this is what James Cameron is tyring to portray.

Are there problems around the world? sure there are, but they are not to be blamed on Capitalism...

Throughout the entire history of mankind people have used Capitalism, to trade, exchange, and even buy goods, and there have been many good civilizations, as well as more greedy civilizations, but this is not because of Capitalism.

The problems that are occurring around the world are the doings of INDIVIDUALS, and groups who unite for a certain agenda to be pushed.

Right now we have the Socialist/globalist elites trying to implement a One World Socialist dictatorship, you think all the problems that have been occurring will dissapear with the suppression of individualism, and the oppression of people through this world dictatorship that is in the making?...

What about the past? How many Socialist/Communist nations have caused suffering, and the destruction of the environment?...

Right now the worse polluters in the world happen to be China, India, Mexico, Russia, etc. Are those countries, or were those countries Imperialistic, and or Capitalistic?.... China is using Capitalism now, as well as Russia, but even before they did this they caused death, destruction of the environment, and oppressed, and still oppress people around the world...

Are you going to tell me that the U.S. is to be blamed for all of this?

If you watch the movie, U.S. Marines are the ones trying to take over this planet... It is not China, Russia, and the U.S. together, James Cameron is obviously puting the blame on the U.S.

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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:22 PM
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I wonder if "Capitalists" do self-criticism ?

I wonder if north-american people .. self criticize too ?

Its a lie how the extreme exacerbation of progress with the capital as goal, usually is big responsible in the destruction of the environment???

I guess communism as other extreme ideologies (as capitalism) does that too with his own mediums , but from outside North-America we see how many of you believe with fanaticism and lack of self-criticism in capitalism and any criticism at all is quickly called "communism" .

I dont believe in the extreme exacerbation of capitalism, but i do believe in freedom, God and human progress, so sharing the criticism to capitalism doesnt makes me a commie

Outside USA the most part of the people knows that difference, but here in ATS i read so many people (from usa mostly) blind in that wrong believing.

I never understood why.

Is because of the long cold war?




BTW i never understood why North-Americans like to call themselves as "Americans". Its funny because i live in America too, but not in USA. America is so much more than USA.




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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

He has embraced the Communist ideas that "Imperialism, and Capitalism are a problem", and he is blaming MAINLY the United States....

He might not say he is Communist, he claims to be Liberal, but he is a Communist sorry to say.



Seriously?

What is it with you people? Is it impossible for you to think in anything other than absolutes?

'If you speak out against imperialism, you're nothing but a FILTHY PINKO COMMIE!'.



Give me a break. James Cameron is releasing a Hollywood theatrical film. A film he intends to (and very much will) make millions of dollars off of. Sounds like a Capitalist to me.

You know, there are more economic systems in existence besides just Capitalism and Communism. Pure Communism is a failure, but so is pure Capitalism. I've got news for you, Electric Universe. Just because someone is intelligent enough to see the dangers of greed and imperialism, does not mean they are in favor of Communism.

I thought McCarthyism ended in the 60's when everyone realized what a joke it was. Apparently 'The Red Scare' is still alive and well in some individuals...



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:25 PM
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Cameron Rocks, his movies are a joy to watch, despite their obvious agenda. The entirety of Hollywood has a far-left agenda, contempt of law-abiding decent middle class, hatred of Capitalism, etc. - but you have to admit, their movies are sure entertaining.

[edit on 17-12-2009 by Skyfloating]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:26 PM
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WHAT is wrong with communism, but the fear of giving something from you to the benefit to all?
Americans: So selfis, therefore so easy to brainwash.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:31 PM
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I saw this movie four nights ago, and it is the most incredible film I have ever seen. You need to watch it before you judge it. The messages hidden within the script are compelling. You will leave with a sense of awe and familiarity.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:40 PM
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so...under your contention, according to the movie...if...china wanted our coal reserves in the ozarks, and mounted an airborne army to fly in and take over that part of the country by force, we americans wouldn't fight back trying to save our land?? and the chinese would have a right to do that, because we refused to let them come in and strip mine??



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by ozzraven
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I guess communism as other extreme ideologies (as capitalism) does that too with his own mediums , but from outside North-America we see how many of you believe with fanaticism and lack of self-criticism in capitalism and any criticism at all is quickly called "communism" .


I was born, and experienced Communism, and i experienced first hand the kind of indoctrination against "Imperialistic U.S., and how everything is to blame on Capitalism"...

This is exactly what James Cameron is doing. This man calls himself a Liberal but he is on the far-left side of the spectrum, he is a true Communist sorry to say.



Originally posted by ozzraven
I dont believe in the extreme exacerbation of capitalism, but i do believe in freedom, God and human progress, so sharing the criticism to capitalism doesnt makes me a commie


But that is not what this man is doing... He is not sharing the blame with other forms of government... he is blaming all environmental problems, as well as portraying the U.S. as a warmongering nation....

You have China oppressing Taiwan, and threatening them with war if they ever implement a Constitution, and try to separate themselves from China... China also took over Tibet, and it is still forcing Tibetans, as well as other people and oppressing them....

Russia is claiming most of the north pole is theirs, and they have used underhanded tactics, and show of force to intimidate European nations.

Remember the fact that the Russian government cut off the gas supply, IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER, to former Communist nations about a year ago.

What China, and even Russia have been doiong is far worse than what the U.S. has done. But Cameron is not blaming these nations, nor their form of economy/government, he is just blaming the "Imperialistic U.S., and Capitalism"... he is using the Communist motto which is nothing mor than a big exageration, and a lie.

BTW, should i start posting again the fact that the Russian government lured the United States to fight against Iraq?... President Putin himself has stated that it is true, since 9/11 and up to the Iraqi war the Russian intelligence agencies were giving evidence to the U.S. that Saddam Hussein was planning terrorist attacks on U.S. soil.....


Putin says Iraq planned US attack

Russian President Vladimir Putin says that after the 9/11 attacks Moscow warned Washington that Saddam Hussein was planning attacks on the US.
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Speaking on a visit to Kazakhstan, Mr Putin said Russia had warned the US on several occasions that Iraq was planning "terrorist attacks" on its soil.

"After the events of 11 September 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, Russian special services several times received such information and passed it on to their American colleagues," he told reporters.

He said the information received by Russian intelligence suggested Iraq was planning attacks in the United States, "and beyond its borders on American military and civilian targets".

But he said it did not change Russia's opposition to the war in Iraq.

"Despite that information... Russia's position on Iraq remains unchanged," he said.
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news.bbc.co.uk...

Then the Russian backstabbed the U.S. told the world how evil the war was, and even gave U.S. troop movement to the regime of Saddam Hussein.

There is even evidence that they helped move, and hide as much evidence of the wmd program that Saddam's regime had.

The U.S. was lured into fighting Saddam's regime for the sole purpose of puting the U.S. in a bad light.



Originally posted by ozzraven
Outside USA the most part of the people knows that difference, but here in ATS i read so many people (from usa mostly) blind in that wrong believing.

I never understood why.

Is because of the long cold war?


I was born in Cuba, and experienced Communism, as well as lived, and experienced live on Europe....

There are just too many Europeans who are blind to the realities of the world, and the realities of true Socialism/Communism.




Originally posted by ozzraven
BTW i never understood why North-Americans like to call themselves as "Americans". Its funny because i live in America too, but not in USA. America is so much more than USA.


Because it is called after all the United States of America.

You live in the Americas too, do you call yourself American?

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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Cameron Rocks, his movies are a joy to watch, despite their obvious agenda. The entirety of Hollywood has a far-left agenda, contempt of law-abiding decent middle class, hatred of Capitalism, etc. - but you have to admit, their movies are sure entertaining.

[edit on 17-12-2009 by Skyfloating]


c'mon sky...taking something by force is capitalism?? even you don't believe that.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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You do realize that most on this board sympathize with everything leftwing don't you. So you might as well be talking to the hand.
Cameran is only one of the many pied pipers out of Hollywood leading sheeple into the river of madness.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

c'mon sky...taking something by force is capitalism?? even you don't believe that.


Maybe not skyfloating, but it is obvious that a lot of people have forgotten the lessons of history.

I guess the Communist U.S.S.R. was Capitalistic, and Imperialistic when they set out to conquer the Middle East in the end of the 1970s, and 1980s...

I guess the Muslims that converted to Islam and united to spread Islam around the world in the 7th century, and set out to conquer Europe were CAPITALISTIC, and IMPERIALISTIC....

I guess the Communist Chinese government must have been Capitalistic, and Imperislistic when they invaded Tibet, and as they keep on oppressing Tibetans, and other minorities....

Phew, yeah....it is all the fault of the imperialist U.S., and Capitalism....




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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:31 PM
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You are right my friend. However, for the most part it is not their fault, but just wait and see when these people start losing their priviledges such as they won't be able to play WOW, or LOTRO, and other online games anymore because they will be shut down "for the good of all, and the good of the environment"...

Just wait for people to start losing their right to buy beer, and other commodities in the supermarket "because beer is not really necessary to live"....

Many of them don't see it yet, but true Socialism/Communism takes away the right of people to choose, and it takes away most of the priviledges that most, if not all left-wing advocates love. BTW, i also love LOTRO.


The Socialist/Globalists are trying to find ways to shut down the internet, because it can become a weapon against them, and after all, keeping the internet going takes a lot of resources, and energy..... What do people think will happen once the "Socialist/Globalist" plan to shut down the internet "for the good of all, and the good of the environment"?....

There are too many Liberals, and in general left-wing advocates who really have no idea what the main goal of Socialism/Communism really is...

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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Well, talking about imperialism and spreading it. Some call it globalism to make it soud better.
Americaism



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:34 PM
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Oh yeah i forgot..... Have you EVER been to any military bases in the U.S.?.....

We have soldiers who are Europeans, from the Middle East, Australia, and other parts of the world in EVERY U.S. base, training, and living among us.... I guess those countries most own the U.S. bases......

I have lived in several U.S. military bases, and every day I saw , and interacted with people from around the world.... Well, except for a few who loved to keep to themselves, and of course i didn't meet everyone from other countries, but you get what I am saying.

I also guess that the U.S. bases around the world are there without the CONSENT of the governments, and MOST of the people in those areas.....


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