Originally posted by whatukno
Sorry not buying it. While I feel that it may be improper to pay warlords to protect roads from Al Qaeda & the Taliban it's not treasonous when the money is given to people that aren't necessarily the enemy.

Like I have said before, we aren't at war with everyone in Afghanistan, just Al Qaeda & the Taliban. Now who those warlords give their money to is not our concern. We supported the Mujahadeen when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, and so we are doing it again. That was not treasonous, neither is this.

Sorry, I still fail to see how this is a treasonous action on the part of the President.

If foreign troops violently occupied the US based on what US citizens saw a lies, I think its safe to say they would be at war with "everyone" in the states.

Why are people in Afghanistan different? they dont want to saved by us, saved from us.. is more like it. The inept corrupt govt we installed is seen as a puppet.. if foreign troops installed a new US govt we'd see it the same way.

If anything the afghanis are more militant due to experience. They have a long record of fleecing clumsy dumb empires with more dollars than sense.. and using the invaders strengths against them..... they did it to the brits & soviets and they're doing it again.. with obamas help and our money.

obama is repeating history because he's not smart enough to avoid it... would you allow a surgeon to operate on you knowing s/he didn't learn a damn thing from past mistakes of other doctors?

If no one impeached Bush and Cheney than Obama won't be impeached either!

Originally posted by GovtFlu

Why are people in Afghanistan different? they dont want to saved by us, saved from us.. is more like it. The inept corrupt govt we installed is seen as a puppet.. if foreign troops installed a new US govt we'd see it the same way.

from Wiki
Afghanistan has a historical and cultural connection to that of Ancient India, the Indus Valley Civilization and the sphere of the general South Asia then. The detailed history of Afghanistan begins around 330 BC with the arrival of Alexander the Great (Sikandar) and his Greek army[1] although civilization existed on the land for thousands of years.

The Afghans have been targeted for thousands of years, vis.
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From the eighth century to the ninth century, many inhabitants of what is present-day Afghanistan, Pakistan, and areas of northern India were converted to Sunni Islam. In some cases, however, many people that were conquered by the Saffarids would rebel and revert to prior forms of worship.[1] The mountain areas were still not completely converted and remained largely by people of non-Muslim faiths. In a book called Hudud-al-Alam, written in 982 CE, it mentions a village near Jalalabad, Afghanistan, where the local king used to have many Hindu, Muslim and Afghan wives.[2] This indicates that the mentioned Afghans were not Hindus or Muslims.
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1839 March First Anglo-Afghan War: A British expeditionary force captured Quetta.

1842 January Massacre of Elphinstone's army: A retreating British force of sixteen thousand was wiped out by the Afghans.

1879 May Second Anglo-Afghan War: To prevent British occupation of a large part of the country, the Afghan government ceded much power to the United Kingdom in the Treaty of Grandamak.

1901 August 19 Afghan Foreign Minister Mahmud Tarzi negotiated the Treaty of Rawalpindi, which fixed the Afghan-Indian border and secured Britain's recognition of Afghan independence.

1979 December 24 Soviet war in Afghanistan: Fearing the collapse of the Amin regime, the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan.

1989 February 15 Soviet war in Afghanistan: The last Soviet troops left the country.
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Historically the Afghans have been invaded countless times, they are a hardy people.