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Classified FBI Documents Uncovered (UFOs)


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Topic started on 17-12-2009 @ 03:37 AM by TimothyMartin
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While searching for any information the Russians might have that has not been released to us, I came across a website which contained a .rar file. The website claimed that the file contained FBI documentation which had been stoled years ago.
I seriously doubt if the documents really were stoled it would be available on the internet, even in Russia, but I took my chances of getting a virus and downloaded the .rar.
The file contained many photos and pdf files. Some of which I had already seen on other websites including the FBI's official site, others which amazed me.

Below I will post some the PDFs I converted to jpgs.
All the information below is, appearently top secret and classified.

You be the judge of if this is real or not!





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Genuine FBI documents - or fakes? You be the judge.
I'll post a few photos the rar came with in the next post.

NOTE: Thanks toArbitrageur for telling me how to put the scrollbars on the images.

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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 03:54 AM by TimothyMartin


Here are some of the photos the rar came with. Some of these photos (not specified which,) belong to the FBI, according to the website.





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The Russian Site is here: nlostory.ru...

I'll upload the rest in a minute.

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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:02 AM by ThePeoplesSoldier


Wow I have no words for those documents... GREAT FIND! If anyone is interested in what is in that area of washington you have, Ft Lewis (Army Post) Mcchord Air Force Base, east of Mt.Ranier there is the Yakima traning center (Army desert Training Post) and north of Ft Lewis there is a Secret navel station where they do repairs on nuclear subermines.



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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:04 AM by TimothyMartin


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Thanks!
I'm still uploading more photos.
Also, I have more FBI Documents, but the rest are all in PDF so I can't upload them. I'll turn them all into jpg later and post them here.



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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:08 AM by woodwardjnr


Documents are interesting, apart from the inclusion of the Crop Circle pictures. Crop circles are 100% man made. That i am convinced of, which brings the validity of the other documents into question , IMHO



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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:09 AM by TimothyMartin


Nine more photos the rar came with.











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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:11 AM by TimothyMartin


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I believe some crop circles to be man made and some to be real.
Remember, just because the rar document came with some possibly fake pictures doesn't make the documents themselves fake. Still, don't rule out that possibility.

Also, even if they are man-made, these are (according to the website,) all FBI files. Maybe they were investigating the crop circles authenticity?

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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:19 AM by sowerby


I find the first image/document to be very interesting. I zoomed in and noticed that at number 8, it says, "The region they come from is NOT from the 'astral plane', but corresponds to the Lokas or Talas. Students of esoteric matters will understand these terms."

Upon googling Lokas, Talas, and reading up on esoteric matters, I was very surprised and fascinated that an alleged FBI document would quote such things. Very exciting. S&F



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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:20 AM by TimothyMartin


The last of the photos. I'm trying to see if I left any out...











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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:21 AM by TimothyMartin


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Thanks for the star and flag. I'm very glad if I helped you with any research.


I'll upload the other PDFs once my program starts working again...



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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:25 AM by sowerby


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Regarding two of the photos in your last post (the military one with a crashed craft and the alien dissection one), I have seen these images before -- actually, I've seen the documentary they're taken from. I saw it quite some time ago and I thought it was really interesting -- hard for me to not believe. Linking images from those videos in this file is all very intriguing.

Here's a link to the entire documentary on google video:
The Secret KGB UFO Files Complete

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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:28 AM by TimothyMartin


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Thanks so much, I'm going to watch this first thing after work.

If you have any photos or documents you would like to share, I would highly appreciate that.

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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:55 AM by Arbitrageur


Originally posted by TimothyMartin
You be the judge of if this is real or not!
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Genuine FBI documents - or fakes? You be the judge.


Here is the FBI site about these documents foia.fbi.gov...

Subject concerns an FBI inquiry into a possible unauthorized disclosure of classified information when a document marked "Top Secret" was made public. The investigation was closed after it was learned that the document was completely bogus.


But just in case you think that is disinfo, the Harry Truman to Forrestal document is a fake. If the others came with it apparently they are fake too but I'm not as sure about those. I've seen somewhere but can't find the link now an analysis of the actual document where they copied Truman's signature from to fake this. Wiki mentions the analysis.

en.wikipedia.org...

The signature of Harry Truman on the alleged letter to Forrestal is identical to the one known to be authentic on a letter to Vannevar Bush on October 1, 1947. The one on the briefing document is 3 to 4 percent larger and bolder, but this is explained by the fact that photocopiers do not reproduce things at exactly the same size. They match when the size is corrected and one is laid over the other.

Since two different signatures from one person will always differ, this shows that the authentic Truman signature from the letter to Bush was copied onto the bogus letter to Forrestal, which was then photocopied.




NOTE: If the pictures are too wide for your screen, copy their code into your url box.

Just so you know, if you change the tag from "atsimg" to just "img", a scroll bar will appear under the images if they are wider than 600 pixels, so I usually change the tags for wide images.



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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:56 AM by ItsallCrazy


Some of those pictures are messed up!

I'm also on the fence with the crop circle stuff. Some of them spring up too quickly and look far too intricate for humans, plus the fact that in some of these, the wheat (or whatever is growing in the field where they are) is bent over perfectly level but without actually breaking the stems or anything. That to me is beyond humans.

Plus humans are too arrogant, they'd want to take ownership of such masterpieces just like the Circle Maker guys do.

Never seen some of those pics so many thanks OP for uploading them and taking the risk of the original download!

The one of the russian soldiers in the forest with a disc planted in the floor cannot be real.... can it?

Edited for my goddamn atrocious spelling

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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 04:57 AM by stevecc


isn't the last image form the X-FILES? can't remember the name of the episode but its where they carry out an autopsy in a train carrage?


YouTube Link


The image is actually from footage of an autopsy from the russian ufo crash

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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 05:02 AM by TimothyMartin


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I think at least half of the documents are authentic. Not sure. Some Russian guy probably just put all the documents he had together, fake and real.
Just like some of the pictures. Many of them look fake.

Thanks for the advice on image sizing. I'll do that next time!



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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 05:04 AM by TimothyMartin


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First off, I love your signiture!

Second, I agree about the crop circle thing. No one was ever caught making one.
Plus how could they appear over night, be so big and so well made? You would need about 200 people and a helicopter to make those!

Those some smaller ones are man-made.

I don't know if the Russian ufo photo was real, looks real!



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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 05:08 AM by TimothyMartin


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It does look the the alien fron 'Nisei,' minus a head!
Great show though, wouldn't you say? X Files had a lot of truth to it, such as operation paperclip.

Here's what the fake alien looked like:



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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 05:09 AM by stevecc



YouTube Link
sorry - trying to post a vid of the russian ufo crash

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reply posted on 17-12-2009 @ 05:14 AM by franspeakfree


Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Crop circles are 100% man made. That i am convinced of, which brings the+ validity of the other documents into question , IMHO


Sweeping statement there woodwardjnr, to which I strongly disagree. There is overwhelming evidence to suggest something other than human beings after a night out down the pub are creating them. Heres just a small sample of complex crop circles


YouTube Link


My favourite being the mayan symbols and the 3D Gray and the ASCII code

Complex crop circle research

I digress, the photos are amazing and I would bet the $5 left in my pocket that at least one of those photos is authentic and shows us an actual UFO craft. Also those documents are amazing, great find indeed and thanks for taking time and sharing them with us.



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