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Originally posted by Hack28
Originally posted by RamsOnTop
Wow I respect this guy Phage but what I don't get is this utter fascination coming from other members. It's like all these people who can't think and reason for themselves have a Phage fetish. They can't form an opinion until Phage speaks up and then they troll and ruin perfectly fine threads.
I have to agree there, i respect Phage as he is a smart fella, but im sure he would agree that its a little ridiculous when you see a thread and peoples comments are "i cant wait to see what phage says".
I agree with him alot and have dissagreed but i dont follow him around or wait for him to show me the light, i hope he doesnt want that either.
Originally posted by the_denv
Originally posted by freighttrain
I concur! You people are giving your power away to certain individuals to make decisions for You! Even if Phage is an expert (he seems pretty smart and does his research) the odds of finding truth calls for more "non-expert" then few "experts". So STOP relying on others to create your thoughts for you, THINK FOR YOURSELF! You can't loose, just have faith in your own eyes, be open minded to what others say but DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH and come with YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING! then share...
what is wrong with giving the man a bit of credit? Or do I sense envy amongst certain members that think Phage has a following or a cult (lol)?
Originally posted by groingrinder
reply to post by Cyprex
You know the military does what they want when they want to. They have reasons to turn their lights off. I also have observed military flights without lights, but what does this have to do with the videos being scrutinized here?
Originally posted by believer81
This thread is the epitome of the secondary entertainment value I obtain from this site. A low quality video is presented as evidence of intelligently guided, other-worldly craft. Many users are convinced solely by this low quality video. Along comes Phage.
Phage presents evidence to the contrary. Solid and convincing; his evidence is of a more convicing quality than that which the presenter of the video is trying to convey. Along with the quotes from other threads including one of a person who has seen this aircraft with his own eyes.
Now the funny part... Users with blind faith, those with disgust towards Phage, people whose "unreality" keeps being shattered by someone who is really good at contributing critical analysis to these topics. You guys get so p*issed at critical analysis! Yet you blindly accept a low quality video which is presented the way you want it to be presented, showing you what you want to believe. Some of you remind me of religious zealots.
Thankyou for the entertainment and thankyou Phage for keeping it real. There must always be a balance.
Originally posted by myeyeshavseen
UFO's are real. But it's not aliens operating them, it's us humans. I am convinced it is the military or some form of government.
Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
I rest my case with this post my last one as well. Take a really good look here. This member specifically used Phage as an overall reason for trashing this vid. This member didn't do any research of their own, didn't offer any logical or sensible explanations to the phenomenon and ultimately insulted those who choose to think differently. Their ONLY opinion rested on the work of another member that they wholeheartedly took as truth because it came from "said" member. They used Phage's work as a way to chastise others and downgrade other ATS members for their beliefs. BRAVO!!! I'm still waiting for an original thought here.
Believer81, just because Phage said that these are airplanes does not mean that this is a closed case. What if they were helicopters? What if they were flying monkeys from mars??? The fact is, you're placing way too much faith in the beliefs or opinions of others. That's very dangerous because your own critical thinking skills are being blindly negated by your need to align yourself with someone that you feel is superior.
Again...I claim no absolutes here. I am actually leaning towards this being terrestrial aircraft as well, but, I didn't need Phage to crystallize that thought for me.
Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
reply to post by Phage
Do you have any other proof rather than speculation to back up your claims.
Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
Graduation of recruits in the dark. Makes alot of sence , The display of controll over an aircraft is always displayed during daylight hours. I don't understand what you are saying here.
Originally posted by Phage
December in Santiago again? Time flies...and so do airplanes.
Time for graduation at the FACH Aviation School again.
You can't see the nav lights because the quality of the video is so poor. I wonder if that's an accident.
[edit on 12/16/2009 by Phage]