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UFO Fleet Over Chile December 16,2009

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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:17 AM
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Great post, as much as I would like to believe it is UFOs, the information that Phage provided confirmed that they are T-35 Pillán training airplanes from FACH aviation school. Even a credible witness Marcos González, of Agrupación Canopus, Chile said that every December a "UFO" report gets released due to these pilots training in the T-35's.

Also, notice in the OP video, the cameraman zooms into the area of where the apparent "UFOs" are - before they are even visible. This means the video was filmed by a person who knew that the T-35s where already in the area.

It is not a UFO, its an IFO
..a T-35 infact.

PS: I don't think Phage has followers (as some members claim), I think its because the man is a well respected researcher and does a proper investigation. Like Mulder and Scully, skeptics are as valuable as the believer and just as important. Skeptics stop the majority of people from becoming insane I think, and believers stop the skeptics from becoming ignorant.




posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:19 AM
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So for those that undoubtedly believe this is an Extraterrestrial craft, you have gotten your disclosure. And by years end too. Do you remember where you were on December, 16th 2009 when E.T's made their presence known?! Truly a momentous day.

Read my prediction below. History certainly does repeat itself.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by expat2368
reply to post by Damian-007
 

I do not think it has been "debunked", there are differing opinions..but case not closed.

I find it difficult to believe that planes would fly in that close a formation at night..and do some of the maneuvers they did..




Flying and manuvering at night is S.O.P. for military. Humans have been doing it for a very long time now. Massive formations of Bombers in WWII, Night fighters attacking and shooting down said bombers and this was with crude radar and no night vision (except for what mother nature gave them).

In fact in this day and age the intial sweep into a target is done at night to give attacking craft a greater advantage.

As creatures of the day, the night is often an alien place (pun intended) and our fear of what is out there in the dark can lead to some pretty wild flights of fancy (pun intended again).



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:22 AM
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At or around 27 seconds you have 3 sets of 3 lights come .

Then a single light comes in from the top and circles around the bottom and goes right through the middle of the other now "stationary lights...must be a new move by the blue angles .

The barking dog in the background is drowing out the fighter jet/helicopter sounds which you can here for miles....yeah right.

Anyways they all split up some going back and some going forward ,not typical of any military move.

The one light that came in last is now at the back set of lights which are now 3 sets of 4 lights. Some how two more showed up , should have been able to see them come in to the group considering how bright their light is.


This is in my opinion real footage of UFO technology.

Question is who was behind the wheel??



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by nik1halo

Originally posted by Hack28
Heres an obvious question or statement that no-one is making.
If a UFO were to be flying around in our Atmosphere, would it not look like a plane anyway? If all we see on airplanes are the lights at night why would it be different for UFO's?
Im pretty sure they would look very similar, its not like the UFO's are going to have a lights that spell out UFO, they have lights, planes have lights? I fail to see a debunking.


Using the same logic, you could also argue that if planes look like UFOs at night, then it is totally rediculous to claim that it is a UFO, as you can only really go on what is more likely. To be fair, I recon a plane is more likely, don't you?

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I doubt it's going to be a pineapple.


No i agree with that statement, Okums Razor exists for a reason its not just pretty. All im saying is i dont know what people would be expecting to see when looking for a UFO at night, because if it didnt have any lights you wouldnt see it.
We can only hope that one day someone zooms in close enough with an HD camera phone and takes a............ by that point CGI will be so good that the only thing that will be proof is an alien, shaking hands with a person, around alot of people, as scientists poke him, and he must be naked to prove no wires, and than dump water on him to make sure not electric, i wouldnt wanna come here either hahahah.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Grayelf2009
Question is who was behind the wheel??

I'd say a Chilean pilot.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
December in Santiago again? Time flies...and so do airplanes.
Time for graduation at the FACH Aviation School again.
forgetomori.com...

You can't see the nav lights because the quality of the video is so poor. I wonder if that's an accident.

[edit on 12/16/2009 by Phage]


so what look like balls are in fact the passenger window lights on the plane?

[edit on 17-12-2009 by woodwardjnr]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:31 AM
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Very true, which is why I now pretty much ignore these "lights in the sky" videos, unless the object is a completely weird shape, is manoeuvering in a way out tech can't or is taken from inside the ship



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:32 AM
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Nice christmas decorations ontop of the city skyscraper cranes.



Happy Christmas, Ho Ho Ho






Peace



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:32 AM
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Does anyone have a good Video Cam? Sigh!

Anyhow, I am only going to believe disclosure/ET presence when they land, get out of their crafts and give me a warm embrace. Close up, face-to-face, and bringing technologies that help us live a cleaner, healthier,peaceful, and less stressful life.

Otherwise, I am tired of the footage that leaves such a wide range of speculation and conjecture. Nothing against the OP, glad you posted it, but until we have face-to-face meetings, with everyone on earth experiencing it first hand, there will be skeptics.

Peace!



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr

so what look like balls are in fact the passenger window lights on the plane?

[edit on 17-12-2009 by woodwardjnr]


It is a T-35, they only have two seats - one for the pilot and one for the instructor.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:35 AM
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Stationary because of relative motion.

If the light is heading toward you it would not change postion. Depending on its distance from you it might change size but otherwise would remain stantionary.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:36 AM
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To me they look like planes stacking up in preparation to land. The area is surrounded by mountains and perhaps they have to make a turn before landing. I'm just sayin...



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by Phage

You can't see the nav lights because the quality of the video is so poor. I wonder if that's an accident.


Funny how the video quality of all "ufo's" is so bad, almost as if it is done on purpose.


That's a standard prerequisite - that and camera shake.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:48 AM
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Maybe they are trying to tell us something via basic signals and formations...

I don't even know if the video is real though haha!



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:52 AM
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Everyone, check this out (It is inside a T-35, pardon the Top Gun music lol):

T-35 Pillan FACH


The formation within the video is very complex to pull-off for a pilot, I think it is very possible they could do the formation within the Original Post.

Also, check this video out as it contains a LOT of various T-35 footage from throughout the years of its existence:




posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 09:55 AM
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This is an interesting video for sure, but please, we're looking for evidence of aliens' presence on Earth, not videos of vague lights in the sky. The night-time video someone else posted of an air show *IS* startlingly similar to the UFO video that inspired this thread.

Those of us who are looking to find visual evidence should adopt a rule...

1. ignore 'vague lights in the sky doing mundane stuff' kinda videos.

Seriously folks, to assume those things provide ANY evidence WHATSOEVER of aliens or the presence of amazing craft in our atmosphere is to make some sort of completely illogical leap of imagination. There is literally JUST as much evidence for those things being alien craft as there is for them being fairies, or angels, or photoluminscent yeti.

There's an EVEN better reason to assume they're are unidentified HUMAN flying machines.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 10:09 AM
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I'm in Chile right now. I haven't seen any of those lights since I live around a few buildings that cover the night-sky for me. Also, I have not heard any planes. That's my personal "witness" account. I live in the zone called Las Condes, right by Vitacura and Providencia, for anyone, like Phage, who would like to go in-depth with the research and figure out exactly where the FACH pilots do their graduation flight or whatever exactly it is.

My only interjection is for the presence of the daylight video of U.F.O.s on the hill-range. Those are not T-35s. They hold their place for many seconds and then suddenly take off with extreme acceleration.

I'm talking about this video



Peace, and love.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 10:10 AM
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What was the point of those videos?

I have seen F-series fighter jets pull manuvers that were amazing....come to a stop turn around fly off.
I never been to an public air show , do they pull that one at air shows?

Im curious to those that think these are airplanes if you beleive in ufo's or if there is a thread that you agree on about Alien Craft?



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by Grayelf2009
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What was the point of those videos?

I have seen F-series fighter jets pull manuvers that were amazing....come to a stop turn around fly off.
I never been to an public air show , do they pull that one at air shows?

Im curious to those that think these are airplanes if you beleive in ufo's or if there is a thread that you agree on about Alien Craft?


A very fair question!

Do I believe in UFOs (Non Human vehicles).

Certainly do-100%.

In fact I have personally seen craft that I could not identify and because of performance have put into the "Alien" catagory.

However that being said, I am aviation hobbiest as well. I eat up anything I can about military craft. I served 4 years in the USN as an Operations Specialist (E-5) serving on a Knox class frigate in the America battle group. My knowledge of Aircraft was probably the best onboard and I was assigned to the ships "Snoopy team" (intel gathering). I've seen ships and planes from all over the world, I grew up next to bombing range in the Pine Barrens of Southern New Jersey.

So basically I've seen more then my fair share of Military aircraft and videos as posted in the OP and the one directly above are rather timid. The video above is just planes heading toward the camera in formation and then peeling off one by one, nothing at all otherwordly about it.

Again, do I believe Aliens are out there! you bet! Do I want Disclosure? most certainly! However I won't deny the truth just to make my wishes come true. When it happens for the world there won't be much denying it (except for those Blue Beam folks).



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