reply to post by JohnPhoenix
As someone else said, this is getting pathetic.
IF you wish to play the semantics game, based on a Wiki article about the true definition of theory, in a scientific sense, and a 'hunch' or
"theory" used in the vernacular sense, then you have refuted nothing of my argument, despite your protestations to the contrary.
The rest of your post showed the same fallible conclusions, drawn from the nonsense that is being spouted by these EU proponents. This is the kind of
New Agey, touchy-feely Looking for Mr. Goodbar stuff that makes laughing stocks of such people...NOT science.
I find this in the same category as those who think the Earth is hollow, those who think the Earth is flat (amazing, but there is still that bit of
insanity out there...some do it as a lark, tongue-in-cheek, but others actually believe it) and, finally, it fits in with the notion of some giant old
white dude with a big beard in the sky, who knows everything everyone does (and I'm not talking about Santa).
@@ For the person...(OP) who questioned the origination of the idea of the "Big Bang", and claimed it was just a theologian who was trying to merge
science and theism...wrong.
Georges Lemaître proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, although he called it his "hypothesis of the
primeval atom". The framework for the model relies on Albert Einstein's general relativity and on simplifying assumptions (such as homogeneity and
isotropy of space). The governing equations had been formulated by Alexander Friedmann. After Edwin Hubble discovered in 1929 that the distances to
far away galaxies were generally proportional to their redshifts, as suggested by Lemaître in 1927, this observation was taken to indicate that all
very distant galaxies and clusters have an apparent velocity directly away from our vantage point: the farther away, the higher the apparent
Who is Georges Lemaitre? Well, here's where the people who wish to stick this fallacy of the "electric universe" down peop0le's throats use a
very old tactic, as seen by the OP to me. Monsieur Lemaitre was
a Catholic Priest. BUT, to suggest that that was his motivation for
the Big Bang hypothesis is more ridiculous and spurious "logic", tortured as it is, in order to attempt to destroy the Big Bang hypothesis'
credibility by attacking the man who proposed it. It is a stupid argument.
Let's see, shall we, what Wiki in its infinite and Galactic wisdom has to say (Hey, it's a good enough source for JohnPhoenix, it's good enough for
me...and Wiki does undergo rigorous checks and balances...):
Monsignor Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître
( July 17, 1894 – June 20, 1966 ) was a Belgian Roman Catholic priest, honorary prelate, professor of physics and
astronomer at the Catholic University of Leuven.
Wow!!! A rare Catholic, indeed. A theologian AND an accomplished scientist. Go figure.
In 1925, on his return to Belgium, he became a part-time lecturer at the Catholic University of Leuven. He then began the report which would bring
him international fame, published in 1927 in the Annales de la Société Scientifique de Bruxelles (Annals of the Scientific Society of
Brussels), under the title "Un Univers homogène de masse constante et de rayon croissant rendant compte de la vitesse radiale des nébuleuses
extragalactiques" ("A homogeneous Universe of constant mass and growing radius accounting for the radial velocity of extragalactic
nebulae"). In this report, he presented his new idea of an expanding Universe (he also derived the "Hubble law" and provided the first
observational estimation of the Hubble constant) but not yet that of the primeval atom. Instead, the initial state was taken as Einstein's own
finite-size static universe model. Unfortunately, the paper had little impact because the journal in which it was published was not widely read by
astronomers outside of Belgium.
The paper has little impact. Little impact. In other words, this man was not out grandstanding for the catholic Church, or to attmept what is
claimed by the EU proponents. He toiled in relative obscurity, at the time. YOu can bet your bippy that, if the Vatican were behind it, they would
have thrown enough money to him to make him more famous.
In fact, I would be willing to bet that his work would have infuriated the Vatican, if it had been widely known. Remember, despite his 'faith' in
'god', I'd guess that his search for scientific knowledge and understanding outweighed all of the religious dogmatic claptrap that had been a part
of the Catholic upbringing.
AND, although Einstein rejected (at first) the concept proposed, because it interfered with his (Einstein's) conviction that the Universe was not
expanding, he eventually came to see the value in looking at the idea.
You can look up Einstein's fudging of math, to remove the Hubble problem, of red shift in very distant astronomical observations. He called it the
"greatest blunder of his life".
Look it up. I probably didn't explain it accurately, mostly from memory.