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Top people to be "done away with" in the USA?

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posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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reply to post by justamomma

YOU control what you buy and how you live.


So, I can just take over a foreclosured home or claim a unused plot of land and claim it as my own without paying anything... Is that what you're talking about since things are in my control, and not others?




posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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I received a message just the other day.

From a person who said to me... "I would kill a Rockerfeller" given the chance.."

My reply was

"You don't actually have to Kill them per say, but rather kill the IDEA they stand for by posing a contrary IDEA into the collective unconscious and the most powerful way to do that is the PEN and KEYBOARD"

These people, they believe we as humans are useless eaters, that wealth and power should be held by the Few, that we are planet Cancer

If that notion is understood by all and the opposite philosophy enters peoples heads...

Then they are already dead, they only have the power, they only get away with it because on some level many of us share that IDEA

I said ...

You can't just go shoot one, because alone, your a Lone Gunman, a Nutter and you might even get the wrong guy/s

And if you attempt to Lead a revolt against them... They will also win because like the line from Gangs of NY "we can always pay half the poor to kill the other half"

But if you genuinely reveal them, and place the IDEA that they are wrong out there and get enough people to Understand it and Adopt it...

Then you can win.

If you kill one, the guys inbred cousin will simply inherit the role and your life and effort will have been in vain.

But if the Masses rise up, collectively, leaderless and do so on an IDEA that comes to be accepted that they are wrong and vile, that is Weather, that is unstoppable.







[edit on 16-12-2009 by mopusvindictus]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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It's not being rich that is the problem......it's the DISPARITY between the rich and the poor, especially in America that is the problem.

LOL.....this thread is funny..............to think that people see no problem with the top 1% of Americans owning 90% of the wealth is astonishing and is really indicative of the greater apathy affecting US society.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by star in a jar
reply to post by justamomma

YOU control what you buy and how you live.


So, I can just take over a foreclosured home or claim a unused plot of land and claim it as my own without paying anything... Is that what you're talking about since things are in my control, and not others?





Did you SEE me say this? I don't think so. HOWEVER ... *such is Life* ... and again, I say, survival of the fittest.

You all seem to forget that the world does NOT revolve around you and neither does it revolve around them. YOUR anscestors also had EVERY ample opportunity to seize the moment and set forth into motion a chain of events that would put you in a better position than you are in today, thus giving YOU the control to do good with or to do evil with.

What they are or are not doing is beside the point. If you don't like it, SEIZE THE MOMENT NOW to start into motion something that will change the way ppl think down the road (either for better or for worse).

I am not going to throw accusations toward someone simply because they have money. MUCH MORE evil has occurred and is occurring on this planet due to the ignorance of the massess and not because of the wealthy.

THEY are the reason that so many of you don't have to think about how to live life and rather only have to exist in it and if it were not for them, you most likely would have died off by now. You have been given the good in Life and if it isn't to your liking, then change it ... only, if you do decide to take productive action for yourself, you won't see the change today and you probably won't see the change in your lifetime .. BUT YOUR CHILDREN WILL (that is, unless you screw it up by giving place to envy).

Put the "guns" and the accusations down because this is how it is: they have better "forts" than you; they have better "weapons" than you; they have better excuses than you; they have more money to buy their loyalties; and IT IS ONLY DELUSIONAL to even entertain the idea that God will exterminate them simply because you don't like their having more security in life than you. *ahem* survival of the fittest .. their "parents" knew what you are refusing to acknowledge ... time can be your friend today or it will be the enemy of your children's children.

Now ... listen up. Wealth ALWAYS makes complacent the children and blessed are the poor IN spirit! Make Wisdom your companion and teach your children to walk in her footsteps all the days of their life ... time will be on the side of those who choose to be mindful of THEIR own steps in the way of Life. If you live for what YOU want today, then your seed on the earth WILL vanish; but if you are tending to Life, your seed will be sure to remain on this planet. Cause and Effect ... it is the way of Life and the Wisdom that so many really DO NOT understand at all.

I wonder, do you hear me?



[edit on 16-12-2009 by justamomma]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
It's not being rich that is the problem......it's the DISPARITY between the rich and the poor, especially in America that is the problem.

LOL.....this thread is funny..............to think that people see no problem with the top 1% of Americans owning 90% of the wealth is astonishing and is really indicative of the greater apathy affecting US society.


That it was probably funny to your anscestors as well is likely the reason that you are not in that top 1%.

Okay ... I am listening.
Remember ... they HAVE BEEN diligent with their time. Their parents EARNED the security that the children are enjoying today (both monetarily and status-wise). Do you dare to say that they should have it taken away from them today because you don't like that they have it? On what grounds would you, me, or anyone else have that right? THAT IS STEALING, no?


[edit on 16-12-2009 by justamomma]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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My "ancestors" also killed people to acquire land, wealth, and prosperity. Maybe you'd have no problem with going back to that type of society huh? How would you fare if someone wanted to fight you for your wallet? In my opinion probably not too well. Capability and "survival" of the fittest is all relative lady. I could beat up Ben Bernanke, Bernie Madoff, and Barack Obama with my hands tied behind my back blindfolded. But unfortunately we live in a civilized 21st century society.......I cannot live by the laws of nature.....i.e. take what I want through violence........the most basic form of wealth acquisition I know of. SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT AGAIN? LMAO!



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 04:21 PM
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Lady people steal from you everyday. WTF are you talking about? You're just arguing to argue. You make absolutely zero sense and have no argument. You're acting is if all the wealth in the world and those who hold it acquired it through just means, honesty, and goodwill. Do your history instead of mouthing off like an ignoramus. More often than not the wealthy elite are not smarter than other human beings. They are usually more ruthless.............ESPECIALLY if you study history. Read up on the Carnegies, the Rockefellers, and the other robber barons of the 18th century. You are the type of person that loves to sit back and pretend that the world around you exists in some form of utopic lala teddy bear fairy tale...........when the truth is so far removed from what you envision.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
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My "ancestors" also killed people to acquire land, wealth, and prosperity. Maybe you'd have no problem with going back to that type of society huh? How would you fare if someone wanted to fight you for your wallet? In my opinion probably not too well. Capability and "survival" of the fittest is all relative lady. I could beat up Ben Bernanke, Bernie Madoff, and Barack Obama with my hands tied behind my back blindfolded. But unfortunately we live in a civilized 21st century society.......I cannot live by the laws of nature.....i.e. take what I want through violence........the most basic form of wealth acquisition I know of. SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT AGAIN? LMAO!


I was mostly addressing the two main families in which you listed ... they did not earn their money through violence which is the accusation that is thrown around. They were cunning, yes, but there is no crime in that and in fact, it is necessary for those who wish to have the "say so" over others to BE cunning. You HAVE to be more than a brute when it comes to being the one of the "fittest" in the kingdom of man. That your anscestors used violence to try and secure their fortune is most likely why you don't have it today. The effect of such behaviour is never going to be in your favor. And here you are, wishing you had the opportunity to use it now to get your way in life.

MAN's nature is not the way of the beasts ... and those who wish to behave as such are sure to ALWAYS come out underneath those who employ what they were given of God .. their MIND! To act MINDFULLY is and always will be the ONLY way to secure what it is these families secured for their ownselves. Thus far, you do NOT have what it takes to come out on top. You are too dependent.

[edit on 16-12-2009 by justamomma]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 04:33 PM
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Oh brother


By the way you never answered my question............if we lived in 18th century society and someone came up to you and robbed you what would you do? NOTHING! You are a woman and you can't defend yourself. You live in man's world lady whether you like it or not. You talk about competition and ruthless acquisition and survival of the fittest yet you sit behind your computer in a society that hides behind judges and police officers. I.e. like generations past you are protected by MEN! You are obviously very IGNORANT about American history and the robber baron era of history.

Why do you think women have always been second class citizens........they've always needed men to protect them.....least of all from other men. You wanted to go off on a tangent and get all philsophical and personal well there ya go!



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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simple those who pollute and destroy the earth for profit..

LooK in the big book.
so that will be those who build the giant oil companys and destroy the wildlife and habitats abouts the refinerys . Them who are rich but are not, Them who cause wars for money .them who hold back TEC which can help the world.

Them who lie and decieve to protect people with the money, that could be people in goverment positions to get through planning permissions .
I dont mean good people who have done well like say you got 1 or 2 million stashed away from a a good honest joinery company..em no actuall names i leave that to higher powers



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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Those who think that WE put those politicians in office are very naive.
They are selcted from a few to be elected by us.

Take a look at who they were in their communities before they were selected. Also take a look at who selects them. And remember that in many places it costs a lot of money to get on the ballot. In my area the price is $10,000.

Do you think that those doing the selecting may be a little bit biased as to what their nominee can do for them?

Now then, as to what we actually get to control.

Do you get a choice as to whether your tap water contains Flouride?

Food...This from an email newsletter from:
www.foodandwaterwatch.org...
"Who Controls Your Food? A Few Agribusiness Giants!

December 15, 2009

Dear Supporter,
Right now, four companies control 85 percent of U.S. Beef
Contact the Obama Administration

Did you know that just a handful of companies determine what kind of food you can buy and how farmers can produce it? It's true. Decades of bad farm policy and unchecked corporated mergers have driven out independent players, creating powerful agribusiness giants with massive market share. Tell the Obama Administration that it's time to protect consumers instead of agribusiness!

How bad are things right now?

- More than 85 percent of U.S. beef cattle are slaughtered by just four companies.
- Two companies sell half of U.S. corn seed.
- One company controls 40 percent of the U.S. fluid milk supply.
- Five firms dominate the grocery sector, ensuring that low prices paid to farmers aren't passed along to consumers at the store."

More good stuff on the site.

Do you get a choice to buy food that is not poisoned with pesticide or designer fertilizers. There is one that is made from Hydrolyzed Protein which can stimulate the plant to grow by stressing it. This same thing can be used as an insecticide or a fungicide. It contains a high amount of free Glutamate and can be deadly to those who are sensitive to the likes of MSG. Every grower is using it. You have NO CHOICE.

And the Meat is now treated with Citric Acid and/or other chemicals so that is does not discolor and so it has longer shelf life. It is very difficult to get meat that has not been treated. Have you noticed a bitter taste to your chicken or beef lately? You will notice it if you do not put any seasoning on it. It may leave a puckery feeling in your mouth.

For more info on this subject check out these sites:
www.msgtruth.org...
www.pesticideinfo.org...
www.wrongdiagnosis.com...
www.westonaprice.org...

Read labels. You will see that MSG & Citric Acid are in everything.
They are poison.

As to what you see, like TV & movies.
You might want to check into who owns them.
And note the content.
Compare to older movies.
Do you see how they are leading you to accept more and more sex and violence? Was this your Choice or theirs?



[edit on 16-12-2009 by OhZone]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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What you should have said was,Top people to be done away with"in the Middle east.You would proberly get more replys to that one.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
Lady people steal from you everyday. WTF are you talking about? You're just arguing to argue. You make absolutely zero sense and have no argument.


What the heck are you talking about? Mind to tell me on what basis you are now making the claim that someone is stealing from me?


Do you understand what it is to be a rational human being?



You're acting is if all the wealth in the world and those who hold it acquired it through just means, honesty, and goodwill.


Are you always just, honest, and full of goodwill? Do you ALWAYS seek the good of others even over that of you and your family?

Let's even look at the proposal of your thread ... "top ppl to be done away with in USA."

What is JUST about the ppl you have chosen in your MOCK "ask God to make them disappear" scenario? YOU HAVE CHOSEN THEM BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THAT THEY HAVE MORE $$ THAN YOU ... else surely you would have rather said ALL THOSE who manipulate, or ALL those steal, or ALL those abuse their positions, because the last time I checked, child molesters, murderers, theives, etc came in all "shapes and sizes." But no ... you named specifics rather than generalizing ... thus, you have specific reasons for disliking *them* that have nothing to do with the pious claims you would have me believe.

You are playing dumb and yet, you know quite well that your envy is guiding your judgment here.

Being wealthy does NOT make you a bad person and your judgments of them are based on envy.


Do your history instead of mouthing off like an ignoramus.


Educate me of the crimes (not generics of what you THINK they have done to earn their wealth) that you KNOW they are committing against you. Tell me why you are justified to spread such hate, even imagining that you could ask God to make them disappear.



More often than not the wealthy elite are not smarter than other human beings.


Depends on what your definition of "smarter" is, I guess.



They are usually more ruthless.............ESPECIALLY if you study history. Read up on the Carnegies, the Rockefellers, and the other robber barons of the 18th century. You are the type of person that loves to sit back and pretend that the world around you exists in some form of utopic lala teddy bear fairy tale...........when the truth is so far removed from what you envision.




NO... I have read MUCH about these families ... and most of the slander is written by the very type you are claiming to despise ...

but YOU don't know this because you aren't really upset about JUSTICE gone wrong ... you are upset that they have obtained a better position in life than you, regardless of whether they earned it or not.

Of course, you have the opportunity to tell me how they have committed a crime against YOU specifically that makes you so bitter toward them. *specifics* please. I *am* listening.


[edit on 16-12-2009 by justamomma]

[edit on 16-12-2009 by justamomma]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
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Oh brother


By the way you never answered my question............if we lived in 18th century society and someone came up to you and robbed you what would you do? NOTHING! You are a woman and you can't defend yourself. You live in man's world lady whether you like it or not. You talk about competition and ruthless acquisition and survival of the fittest yet you sit behind your computer in a society that hides behind judges and police officers. I.e. like generations past you are protected by MEN! You are obviously very IGNORANT about American history and the robber baron era of history.


But I don't live in the 18th century and no one is stealing from me (well, still waiting to hear who stole from me and what they stole, of course).

I am not AT ALL ignorant of American History and what is ironic is that the ones most of you glorify as saintly patriots are the very ones who committed these acts of injustice that you are claiming to be against. Not only is the truth staring you in the face in what most of you read, but even the simple knowledge of Cause and Effect makes evident who acted in a wise manner and who did not.

You don't care about freedom else you would be free
... and even more disturbing, if given the chance, even as you admitted, you would be fine to ask God to take away their freedom so as to have them disappear from off the face of the earth.

NOW, YOU HAVE NOT addressed MY question .... how does that make YOU any better than what you are claiming of them?



Why do you think women have always been second class citizens........they've always needed men to protect them.....least of all from other men. You wanted to go off on a tangent and get all philsophical and personal well there ya go!


I have never been treated as 2nd class because I am a woman until just this very minute.
Ironic, huh?



[edit on 16-12-2009 by justamomma]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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It is the great positions of power that I would do away with. I am not opposed to powers, but when powers grow too large, they rule with Pride and without Charity which is needed by the meek, so there must be a restriction to their powers. I am not opposed to being the meek, I am one, but when the meek require assistance, they will be happy to establish positions of power for the sake of combating Chaos through having some who are not meek as well and thusly make hypocritical their hate towards those who take on such powerful, costly and dangerous jobs such as King, Governor or President. On their best day they bring much harm to the meek who need shepherds, so it would be better for their position to be held slightly more commonly and also more closely to the meek. Personally, I long for a Shepherd to be near.

[edit on 12/16/2009 by Dasher]



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