Originally posted by Chainmaker
Jesus controls my mind now, not evil men.
Then why do you go on to equate enlightenment with the duality of God a few sentences later?
Where? You're falling for a paradox that doesn't truely exist. Enlightenment is dumping the ego, hence dumping forgetful involvement in duality and
remembering from whence you came. It changes your perceptions.
Not at all, he proclaimed himself the Jewish Messiah, the Son of God, equal to the Father, and said that people could be saved only through his
sacrifice, through belief in him as the only way to salvation, nothing about self-enlightenment or many paths.
He also said he the father was still greater. He opened the portal for everyone by example. Follow his ways, believe in his ways. Don't be an
idolater. His essential ways aren't unique to him however, thus by those ways, you in effect do follow.
You either agree or disagree with Jesus claim
Again, I find that I do agree for all intents and purposes.
his exclusionary and divisive claim to be the One and Only way to salvation is consistent with the claim of YHWH throughout the Old Testament
to be the One and Only God who alone would judge and who could save people.
I guess if you didn't have him around at that time and place, there wasn't another way to get in on it.
I take Jesus at his word, I don't need to try to twist his words to get around his divisive and exclusionary and intolerant claim.
Oddly enough I might as well. I know he's trying to help people without damaging them. Still, it's clearly a tricky ordeal as is being played out
here and now. Was he not warned in effect about his ways being twisted into tools of evil?
If I'm truely screwing up, and it is made clear at some point, I certainly don't fear that I'll be castigated by Jesus or God. If it is absolutely,
unequivocally the only way, I am confident I will be shown that through revelation, not dogma. So far though, he's revealed that the options are open
for me. I keep calling for input on the matter and the message is basically: unity, not division. Know it by its fruits.
Inicidentally, you're helping to increase my knowledge and clarifying its meaning by even having this conversation with me. More is revealed by the
minute. Are you committing a trespass by playing that role?
God is Spirit, he does not have a gender, but he presents himself as masculine, as the Dominant Leader. We his followers are his
I suppose "He" has to be both and neither at the same time or unification isn't complete.
But, you're his bride, or I should say, as it is supposed to be, you are polarized receptively. Jesus is the father and yet the father is still
greater. Yeah, no hay un problema. Though if we're his children and his bride... haha, yeah, I see the message anyway. I'm not declaring myself God,
the idea is to open up to realization that you are not separate from God and he dwells within. We simply forgot that, that is our fall, and our task
is to remember.
There is a Tree of Life, and a Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and I choose to stop eating from the dualist Tree of Knowledge, and be
humble and polarize myself toward the Light, so that I can get to eating from the Tree of Life.
They're both pretty tasty. Hehe. Clearly there are exceptions and he does want some to have knowledge. Personally, I've little interest in the power
aspect, rituals or calling upon entities. Those things do not feel right personally or necessary. The source (God) is the way but you're
"polarizing" yourself towards unity, or rather becoming receptive, not playing good vs. evil.
Of course in that, I do not condone atrocity as "ok". Honestly, maybe I don't even have the knowledge of good and evil because sometimes it isn't
clear. What on its face appears evil could be good and what at first appears good could be evil. I see interactions-- cause and effect. I know I
cannot see all and cannot definitively classify all happenings and such. Using power to alter too many events based upon my usually limited awareness
may not serve good at all even if it seems so. So, the "knowledge of good vs. evil" also suggests that in fact that it is the illusion is that you
actually "know" good and evil. Actually, I hadn't thought about it quite this way before even though I have questioned what it "seems". Thank you
Evil is Destruction.
My best guess in a general sense, it's actually form and change or more generally polarity, which is of manifest reality.
I don't want that knowledge anymore, God can have it, he's the only one that can keep it locked up. Everyone who just has to have the
Knowledge of Evil will get their Destruction. If God chose to be Perfect Evil, then everything would cease to exist.
You think you require ignorance to not be evil? If you're ignorant, you do evil without understanding what you're doing; you might even do good
without having any idea. In my case he didn't seem to want to keep it locked up. I didn't really ask for it specifically but I don't mind having it
revealed. It's just knowledge.
This all must seem a bit off off topic but the understanding of what occult is has to be clearer before lumping it all in with Hitler, left-hand
paths, darkness, etc. If you played that side and got burned, I can understand your fear. I did some things without ever having been exposed to
teachings (just seemed to do it naturally, but selfishly) and it burned me. Getting more knowledge and increased awareness helped get life back on a
@queenannie38: Yes, back on track! Things needed clearing up though!