reply to post by beaverg
Look, you can't deny what you can't prove to not exist 100%, and truly make it stick. The burden of proof is valid (meaning that it fits within the
realms of what we are discussing, not necessarily that it is true) for both sides. WE HAVE NOTHING BUT A PICTURE AND A HUNCH.
A bank won't accept a picture of a 100 dollar bill as proof that you have it. Even if you are smiling in the picture holding it even 5 minutes before
you take the picture to the bank. Now a days they will simply call the brute squad to break your arms before they will cash that picture for the
To me it feels like you think I personally believe the city is there. NO. I have a strong hunch there are very advanced remains of what humanity was,
scattered around the globe or are buried in the Vatican and in the Valley of the Kings. I have so little concrete evidence so I try to keep that
perspective to myself to avoid further ridicule for pointing out that ATS is becoming a cesspool of childishness.
I am agonizingly fed up with people who are purely hypocritical in their assessments of things that are not concrete either way.
You get me a photo or hard core evidence that the photo has been doctored, and I would even defend you to the death. Right now, you are simply not
giving anything solid to PROVE it.
People here said it is a case closed hoax. The second they are proven wrong, they will roll their eyes and will quickly avoid any further condemnation
of their now debunked perspective, and some will then take it personally that the tables are turned.
So? It happens! That is the general statement of people who are not experienced debunkers. Look at ghost hunters on Sy Fy and see how they behave.
They don't ridicule people offering claims, they don't say something is conclusive till it hits them in the face, and they refuse to make a decision
indefinitely on many cases as a few bumps in the night and a voice or two do not constitute a haunting. Josh Gates? He tends to sell down his
evidence, but that man could survive hell itself and think it an adventure, but he goes ON SITE and DOES THE WORK HIMSELF WITH HIS PROFESSIONAL
The only thing I definitively said about Plato's accuracy is that he is retelling what was retold. I trust a hypothetical dead priest and a proven
philosopher far more than your perspective, because you already made up your mind.
Not to mention, Plato gave in depth accounts of the Atlantians daily lives, their city, everything required to paint a deep, rich picture of what
could have been. I simply believe that a world renowned philosopher's documented account of what our world and ancient societies could have been
like is far more believable than D.E.M's and other people's idiotic rants that didn't address the point.
Governments lie openly to us, and people without experience are given far to much license to spout unsubstantiated opinion about issues that are
purely topical. Not to mention people still trust what their governments tell them when it is fact that the governments do not tell us the truth when
it runs contrary to what they think is best.
Many insiders on ATS would prefer me to argue with you till the end of time, as it keeps me distracted. You can't convince me there is nothing but
sea floor till you do what Josh Gates and the Ghost Hunters do, and you do it professionally. Period.
If you don't think those two shows aren't prime examples of what true debunking is, then you will never gain the credibility to support your claim
that as is, is currently unsubstantiated.
I sound condescending because I happen to have a college education with a full spectra of scientific studies, and much more, and I have every right to
use my college education to defend my positions and shoot holes into this false debunkery.
You can't prove that Atlantis didn't exist OR that it did. I trust Plato's word over yours, my own, Phage's or anyone else's for that matter. A
college education means so little to a majority of the super debunkers, and I frankly will continue to point out that no one is right when everyone is
Your argument is pointless because I am not arguing your point (argument is simply the discussion of different ideas, not an angry fight). If you
don't prove the sea floor is flat and barren there, then I take the low road and call BS! PROVE IT HOAXER! Now I am being a little silly. Learn from
this. I don't have to take crap from anyone. Neither do you.
[edit on 20-12-2009 by GideonHM]