Sometimes it seems it will never end and the alliances made will only hold until the individual nations realise their alterior motives. Hopefully it will lead to a stalemate or stand off because if not I feel the OP maybe correct in his assumption of world war III.

I pray Israel is not backed into a corner, but fear lack of U.S. support may facilitate this...

If anybody will pull the trigger on a nuke, it's Israel.

We cannot go there again.

Not a very comforting thought.

I don't think Israel will strike Iran because they are aware of the consequences that would result. I don't think Iran will strike Israel because they are aware of the consequences that would result.

I hope your predictions are wrong, but they do seem plausible.

WW3 will not be pretty for ANY of us...

[edit on 15/12/2009 by Dark Ghost]

An Iranian-Syrian alliance was always on the cards. Syria has an underfunded and obsolete military that really wouldn't be much of a match for the IAF and IDF. Hezbollah may lob rockets into Israeli towns in the north of Israel, Hamas will probably lob some rockets into Israeli towns in the south. There will be casualties and damage, but Israel will bear the brunt of it and it doesn't really make for WWIII, so let's not panic just yet.

I expect Turkey will stay neutral, having said this week that they will not allow Israeli planes to enter their air space for an attack on Iran. Other gulf states will probably lend support to the US but not directly to Israel for political reasons.

If the chips fall it will be the US and allies (including Israel) against Iran, Syria and their proxy militant factions. How long do you think Ba'athist Syria will hold out in support of Shia Iran? It really isn't much of a match. Don't believe the hype

if Israel attacks Iran, it may trigger WW3. it could fall in any direction, but if it does happen...

is it just me, or is fear the new love nowadays?

Edit: spellage

KB IS DYING!

[edit on 12/15/2009 by ugie1028]

No big surprise there. A surprise would be if Syria said it WOULDN'T stand w/ Iran.

But, in Syria's defense.... They are pretty much screwed no matter what side they sided with (even neutral). Guess they figure they will hand with the one they think is the bigger bad a$$ of the two.... (or more).

They (Syria) is and has been a tool against the people of God for a long time.

I personally think it is time for them all to be put to the test and kick the crap of of them. Go Netanyahu......

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
I hope your predictions are wrong, but they do seem plausible.

They are very plausible alright but the relations between the EU/US/China/Russia are now so intertwined that its not easy to see the big stabilizers at each other's throats over this.

Everyone is sick of Iran's stubbornness and Israel's genocide anyway.. they should be let at it IMO with no support but its obvious the US would like to see Iran's leadership replaced.

I find it hard to see many EU countries or the EU/EU foreign office giving out and out backing to Israel tbh.. especially after all the recent activity. Then again, Germany or the Uk could bypass unity on this one. Although, there is a small tiff between the UK and Israel over Gaza at the mo.

Also with Israel giving the US the finger over and over for the past year makes it a bit hard to see the US risking more economic damage with China over this.

Russia and the EU are too tied & the US and EU are too tied to really argue on this but NATO is where the problems will arise with Russia.

U.S. Puppet Hamas said the same thing today, they will stand with Iran.

what does this all mean?

nothing!

even if they all combine forces they are still a military mouse and cannot compete against Israel.

Israel of course will pretend to take this very seriously and pretend this is a huge threat so that they can attack everyone.

history repeats itself

Another thing to consider (for those who have been paying attention to Middle East affairs) is that Israel has been working hard behind the scenes to improve diplomatic relations with Syria over the last few weeks, with France and Turkey mediating between the two countries. Israel has appeared keen to resume talks about the Golan Heights situation, and Syria has tacitly agreed.

I don't know what's behind this apparent change of heart but I'm guessing that there is some American pressure there, possibly attempting to prise Syria away from the Iranian orbit.

Assad's regime will not survive a confrontation with the West - I think he knows it too.

I see that many people are misunderstanding the reason I posted this. I posted this not because I am surprised that Syria sided with Iran but that they are now picking sides. That is all.

What comes up must come down!

I don’t see this latest provocation and gamble on the part of Israel working out to well for it. Israel is like a child that has managed to cheat death on more than one occasion despite it’s immature and poor actions.

Tragically for most children they begin to believe in their own invincibility and immortality. A rather risky proposition especially considering it’s the ideological remnants of a reformed nation once driven into Diaspora by Rome’s armies.

If the Soviet Armed Forces could meet bitter and embarrassing defeat in the rugged mountains of Afghanistan and if the United States could find humiliating loss in the rainforests and jungles of Vietnam, both against much poorer and less developed nations and peoples where exactly and how exactly does Israel believe it can always win by the sword?

The deranged G-d’s chosen people ramblings of warmongering sadists who haven’t a spiritually pure bone in their bodies certainly are nothing but dribble when their nation has been previously conquered and scattered to the winds in the past.

If there is a G-d and the Israelis or their Zionist supporters really are so inclined to imagine said deity is on their side, they might be better served remembering that deity is a fickle and capricious one that they ought not to take for granted.

Sadly I believe a deep conspiracy exists revolving around Israel to form a one world government, much like Global Warming, and the Economic Crisis are being manipulated to create events that cause nations to weaken their own sovereign status for the perceived good of a larger collective of nations.

Israel and Iran play formulated predisposed roles that are well known to their leaders but are unimagined and unheard of by the peoples of not just their nations but the world at large whose individual governments urge them to take sides in what no matter how you attempt to disguise it is a determined and wanted war between Judean-Christians and Islam.

The reality is no one wins in war, not the vanquished and not the conquerors only the already spiritually vanquished and conquered imagine someone does for the sake of some insipid illusionary ego and perverted sense of self-worth.

The reality is Israel is playing with fire and it as well as its rabid supporters imagine themselves to be too clever and invincible for their own good.

What goes up must come down! It’s called the law of averages people, and the reality is people who can wish for and look for and justify war are those bellow average people who aspire to the lowest possible common denominator.

Such people can only beat the odds for so long.

In the mean time Israel is far more guilty of everything and then some it accuses Iran of.

Personally I think we need to stop following and indulging the hypocrites of the earth.

Nothing good can come from it.





[edit on 15/12/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

Judging by the past performances by the syrian military, I'm not sure if their offer of help provides any comfort for iran.

Example of syrian military assistance:

Yo, Ahmadinejad, we just saw some really fast jets headed in your direction. Did you want us to do anything else?

Originally posted by mattpryor
An Iranian-Syrian alliance was always on the cards. Syria has an underfunded and obsolete military that really wouldn't be much of a match for the IAF and IDF. Hezbollah may lob rockets into Israeli towns in the north of Israel, Hamas will probably lob some rockets into Israeli towns in the south. There will be casualties and damage, but Israel will bear the brunt of it and it doesn't really make for WWIII, so let's not panic just yet.

You see the problem is not whether israel/US can defeat iran/syria.That's eazy peazy stuff.

The first phase of war is very simple as we have seen in iraq and afghanistan.

It's whatever that comes after the first phase is very long and painful.

Iran has probably learnt alot from iraq and afghanistan and has got plenty of experience from iraq testing advanced IED's with whole new stockpile of stingers.

And i am also sure that along with disabling iran's nuke capability, US/israel would also want a 'regime change'.







[edit on 15-12-2009 by merkava]