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Steorn Announces Public Demonstration of Orbo Technology

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posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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dereks, are you joking? I'm really getting the feeling that you know nothing about physics at all. You keep asking "what vacuum?"

THE VACUUM THAT IS ALL AROUND YOU, the one that radiant energy comes from. You obviously do not realize that the earth floats in the vacuum of space, and that physics operates in this vacuum. Particle and energy physics does not depend on the atmosphere of the earth. I am not talking about the simplistic idea of an atmospheric vacuum (which seems to be what you are referring to), but rather the PHYSICS concept of the ethereal vacuum of space, of which science has confirmed is not empty at all, but is filled with "dark matter", "dark energy", etc.

How do you think satellites or space shuttles work if electronics depends on an atmosphere? Please stop arguing from such a position of ignorance and get on the same wavelength, if you can.

It is very hard to explain anything to you if you refuse to educate yourself about anything that surpasses simple 7th science class of 30 years ago.




posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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Watch the videos from Bedini that are on YouTube. I'm not going to provide the links for you because if you are not smart enough to easily find them, then you obviously have no desire to consider the truths espoused there.

He does nothing that you so smugly espouse here. Go and watch the videos (all of them), and then come back and talk science not silly conjectures put out by people who start off as skeptics.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by downisreallyup

How do you think satellites or space shuttles work if electronics depends on an atmosphere?


What on earth are you babbling about? Who made the claim the electronics depends on a vacuum? It shows you have no concept of reality making that claim!


Please stop arguing from such a position of ignorance and get on the same wavelength, if you can.


Sorry, I can not get on a wavelenth that believes this device is operating in a vacuum or someone who believes in this device, which has been shown not to work!



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Stop misquoting me!!!! I never said it works in an atmosphere vacuum, you did! The space around your head is called the universal vacuum! Don't you know anything? Stop playing stupid, will you please?

Either you are very stupid or you are a disinfo agent. You seem to have no reasoning powers. I mention the word vacuum and you think I'm talking a vacuum chamber! I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT A VACUUM CHAMBER! What word should I use so that you get it? Let's see... how about "THE SPACE AROUND YOUR FACE?" Does that work for you? Okay, let's use that.

These machines pull energy from the SPACE AROUND YOUR FACE. Okay? Did you get that? And NO, they have NOT been proven not to work, so STOP with the stupidity, okay?

Go and watch the videos from Bedini on Youtube. Forget about Steorn for the moment. Go and watch the videos with Bedini and you will see them work. You will see meters showing what is happening. You will see and hear full explanations by an electronics genius that is probably as smart as Tesla was. And DO NOT just clip part of this post and respond to a part of it. That is misquoting and unfair selectivity.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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It looks like it works to me ! Not just Joe Public or 'marks' have been invited to view this but also developers and manufacturers have been invited to see how it can be utilised and integrated into they're products ! Hell i have had ideas running through my head as to how it can be utilised since i set eyes on it ! Believe me scam merchants in the UK and Ireland don't get away with fraud that easily !



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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dereks is clearly a disinfo agent. I spent time studying his post history. He has made no threads and all his posts are against 911 and against free energy. And he makes no real arguments, and plays stupid when confronted with real facts. This is something that really needs to be address here at ATS is how to expose and deal with people who are only here to make trouble. They are not here to participate in a forum for the denial of ignorance. In any real public forum they would be escorted out by security!

Security, are you there?



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by downisreallyup
And NO, they have NOT been proven not to work, so STOP with the stupidity, okay?


You are the one posting stupid things here, remember that this HAS been proven not to work, "Twenty-two independent scientists and engineers were selected by Steorn to form this jury. It has for the past two years examined evidence presented by the company. The unanimous verdict of the Jury is that Steorn's attempts to demonstrate the claim have not shown the production of energy. The jury is therefore ceasing work."


Go and watch the videos from Bedini on Youtube.


Sorry, I am not one of the "I saw it on youtube so it must be true" Once agaim, where is the peer reviewed article on it working? Which University validates the results?


Go and watch the videos with Bedini and you will see them work. You will see meters showing what is happening.


As I said, I am not like you believing everything you see on youtube!

Why have they both not gotten their results validated by a University - if it worked like they claim there would be a Nobel Prize in Physics for them!

[edit on 18/12/09 by dereks]



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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Are you really that ignorant of how things work in the real world? This technology will eliminate the electric companies, the power grid, and severely reduce the petroleum fuel industry. You can't possibly believe that the world "system" will hail these inventions, can you? Every invention of this sort has been bought up, covered up, and hidden since the very first ones were invented by Tesla.

You are a real product of the establishment it seems. Well then, why are you on ATS? Really? Are you here to save everyone from the conspiracy "nonsense?" Is that your mission? Are you here to set everyone straight, and the convince them the world is good, the government is good, scientists are good, and that people don't really sell out for money?
Good Luck!


[edit on 18-12-2009 by downisreallyup]



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by downisreallyup
This technology will eliminate the electric companies, the power grid, and severely reduce the petroleum fuel industry.


You see, you do believe everything you see on the internet!


Every invention of this sort has been bought up, covered up, and hidden since the very first ones were invented by Tesla.


Just a urban myth, care to provide validated details of all these cover ups?


Interesting how they keep changing machines, fiddling with batteries etc on the live views!

www.moletrap.co.uk...



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:20 PM
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OMG you really are so ignorant and blind are'nt you ! They invited the 'jury' two years ago ! So nothing can happen in two years can it not ? It's precisely because this 'jury' poo pooed the idea that they went ahead and built the thing ! To prove it does what it says on the tin ! Like downisup says electricity providers will be redundant ! You could have a larger one of these things in your loft powering all your electricals ! No national grid ! Your sockets will feed from this !



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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dereks is one of the few here talking sense.

Why are many of you so eager to believe such nonsense claims without verified, clear cut evidence?



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by science lol
dereks is one of the few here talking sense.

Why are many of you so eager to believe such nonsense claims without verified, clear cut evidence?


Tell you what ! You go to Dublin have a look then report back to us on ATS yeah ? Then when you come back we'll decide whether or not to believe you ?



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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I am going to verify myself by building one. I don't need others to verify things for me, when I am capable of verifying myself. If you rely on others to verify things for you, you really have proof if they have some ulterior motives, and you never know what threats have been made against them, etc. I don't have proof that threats were made, but you don't have proof they weren't, and if something is to be proven 100%, you must eliminate all possibility of fraud, omission, or subterfuge. This is just common sense.

So, the only way to know for sure if something is real is to go out and try it yourself with an honest effort. I am going to get the best set of plans I can find, that have the best reputation, and I will then build it, film it, measure it, and make what I can as a solid verification. I will become convinced one way or the other, and I will share what I find here on ATS.

This may take me some time to accomplish, but that is just how things go. Once I share what I find out, it will be up to each person to either believe what I find, or to do the same "proof" as I am going to undertake.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:02 PM
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As an electrical engineering student at UCLA I find pretty much all of the "steorn is legit" arguments laughable. Just because you don't have proof that something is fake doesn't mean it's real. That was how science worked before we had modern scientific method, which is when science didn't work. You stupid people would believe every snake oil salesman that came into town and conned you out of your money.

I'm not saying that it's not possible to get free energy. According to laws of thermodynamics it's impossible, but who knows what small percentage of the universe and its laws we understand at this point.

I thought this company got debunked awhile ago though....

If a company did have technology capable of this they would patent the # out of it and send it off to get tested and validated by the scientific community. Free energy would be worth trillions of dollars. Why the # would they sit around with the technology for years and do some retarded online demo? It makes no sense.

People get national news coverage anytime they increase the efficiency of a solar cell by a couple percent. This has gotten zero.

You have to remember this isn't an opinion based thing, it generates free energy or it doesn't. If it does it would baffle PhD physicists around the world as there is absolutely no science to back up free energy. So don't pretend you could understand it or that you have some idea how it would work.



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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I don't care what you think ! I tend to believe my eyes ! it's there for ANYONE to go and observe and judge for themselves ! It's been stated loud and clear that it breaks the laws of physics ! Bounderies are there to be pushed if science stood still where would we be ! Even the President Mary McAlees has visited the project ! Do you think she would visit a snake-oil salesman ? No niether do I. You just 'believe it can't be so because the laws of physics tell you so !



posted on Dec, 18 2009 @ 11:58 PM
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I don't care what you think ! I tend to believe my eyes ! it's there for ANYONE to go and observe and judge for themselves !


Yes, I believe my eyes. There is clearly a battery powering the device. This is obvious and not hidden by the scam. They even tell you flat out that it won't work without the battery powering it.

And yet somehow you STILL believe that they are negating 200 years of physics that have successfully moved us from horse and buggy to landing on the moon. Incredible.

In the 60's all the comic books I read alway had ads in the back selling "Genuine Ersatz Spanish Fly". It is exactly the same thing, they are telling you right out in the open that it is fake (in this case "ersatz" - look it up if you don't recognize the word) and counting on the gullible to think that Ersatz is a brand name or something. It is the art of the con.

Notice that there is no metering device, nothing to show the amount of energy being drawn from the battery and nothing to show the amount of energy supposedly being generated. This is the only way it is going to be proved, by repeatable measurements of what goes in and what comes out.

Listen, if you really want to believe this, its cool. But can I introduce you to my accountant in Nigeria? He has a lot of money that the Government has lost track of and wants to move it out of the country.




[edit on 19/12/2009 by rnaa]



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 12:05 AM
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Go and watch the videos from Bedini on Youtube. Forget about Steorn for the moment. Go and watch the videos with Bedini and you will see them work. You will see meters showing what is happening. You will see and hear full explanations by an electronics genius that is probably as smart as Tesla was.

Do you get a commission for directing hits to the videos?



And DO NOT just clip part of this post and respond to a part of it. That is misquoting and unfair selectivity.

It isn't misquoting, and it isn't unfair.

It is providing context about what it is that is being responded to so the reader doesn't have to jump all over the place to follow the discussion. The link back to the full post is there if you need to reference more detail.

You don't get to make up the rules about how people respond to you. That is just silly.



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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wow cant wait! hopefully we can start using this tech, and not let the powers that be to stop us from it



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 12:45 AM
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The battery stuff has already been addressed or are you just selecting to ignore that ?



posted on Dec, 19 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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Tell me, did you study radiant energy of the vacuum? Did you study ZPE? Did you study the Casimir Effect? How can you say that there is nothing behind this from a scientific perspective? There certainly is. And let me say this ONE AGAIN, and I've said it time and time again.... for those who understand the physics behind these machines, there is no claim that they violate thermodynamics or that they are creating energy from nothing. They are simply tapping the energy from the surrounding air that is proven to be there by mathematics and experimentation. Even Maxwell's original formulas said this would be the case. Dark Matter and Dark Energy are proven to exist by QM. Why are you not realizing that the problem here is with the breadth and width of your training. Go and study these things more and then make your assessment. By not knowing these things you are at a disadvantage.




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