Conspiracy Debunked - Santa does Exist

Relax, its that special time of year, you can feel it inside you, dont try to fight it because he knows if you've been naughty!

Originally posted by wtfhuh
On a more serious but still fun note,

The psychedelic Santa story if amazing if you haven't read it.

www.cannabisculture.com...

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If only we still celebrated with magic mushroomsinstead of Brussell sprouts, christmas day would be so much fun

Fantastic way to lighten the mood this Holiday Season OP!

Happy Holidays ATS!


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Originally posted by Xadaz
Relax, its that special time of year, you can feel it inside you, dont try to fight it because he knows if you've been naughty!

I took this extremely out of context and laughed very hard, thank you.

Ah but the question shouldn't be whether or not Santa exists, but why you don't see Santa and Satan in the same place at the same time.

This thread can't be serious...

I suppose the Easter Bunny is real too right?

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Of course not! The Easter Bunny is disinformation spread by Santa in order to aid in the proliferation of the conspiracy that he in fact does not exist. If he can get the world to believe that he doesn't exist, then he can keep a low profile 364 days of the year, which allows him to further infiltrate the governments of the world and manipulate the conception of the NWO along with the Illuminati and therefore bring around the end of days in 2012.

Easter Bunny indeed...

I am surprised nonsense like this thread made front page news. Such morons, I am seriously shocked actually.

The greatest trick the devil (Satan/Santa) ever played was convincing the world that he doesn't exist?

Here, I posted this in another thread, take a read:

I have been saying this for years. Santa Claus is Satan Claws, and for the fun of it, put an "all seeing eye" between the two words and you have yourself the word: "Satan i Claws" = Satanic Laws.

If you ever research or even see in real life a Freemasonic ritual for the 3rd Degree Master mason, a man will be present dressed in an identical suit as Santa Claus. Honest.

Coca-Cola (We all know what and who they are), changed the "Santa" suit for their own benefits back in the 1950s. Red equaling the bloodline and White equaling "Enlightenment and/or Illuminating" - The Red and White colors. Before that he was all sorts of colors, brown, green, white etc.

Santa Claus uses magic indeed, he "decks the halls with boughs of holly". Holly, using holly is done by the Magi/Medes - those who "cast spells". "Holly-Wood". Magic wands were made from the wood of a Holly tree in ancient times.

Santa has eight reindeer: Dasher and Dancer, Prancer and Vixen, Comet and Cupid, and Dunder and Blixem (Rudolph doesnt count he was added at a later in 1939). Eight is a very significant number within secret societies and symbology.

Everyone also puts a REEF of holly on their front door, this is actually a representation of the "crown of thorns" Jesus Christ was tortured with. You really think Jesus would want to see a crown of thorns? Do you think Satan would want to see everyone hang crowns of thorns on their door?

December 25th, the year of the GOAT. Capricorn, a Baphomet, Jah-Bul-On, Goat of Mendes reference. You all celebrate the astrological positioning of the GOAT, you all ILLUMINATE your houses with lights, you all put PINE trees in your house (representation of the Pineal Gland, a form of sorcery), you all participate in satanic rituals by laying your gifts at the bottom of the pine tree, leave food out for Satan (which is a form of an invitation - allowing evil spirits in to your house), you all write on paper of what you want (making a deal with Satan).

The full moon we all see on many postcards and pictures during Christ-Mas is a form of Moon worships (heh they only come out at night lol), the star you see in all Christmas cards is the Star Sirius, Sirius is very important in Freemasonary - yes Im serious.

The devil's common entry line is the "devil's bluster," was "Ho! Ho! Hoh!" (Siefker, Phyllis. Santa Claus, Last of the Wild Men: The Origins and Evolution of Saint Nicholas. Jefferson: McFarland & Company, Inc., 1997, p. 69) Satan loves his hoes, especially when its illuminated with snow so bright.

An elf is a wandering evil spirit; a fairy; a hobgoblin; an imaginary being which our evil ancestors supposed to inhabit unfrequented places, and in various ways to affect mankind. Myths from Ireland hold many secrets.

H.P. Blavatsky claims elves are "disembodied spirits," used in "magic and sorcery" and are "the principal agents in seances." (H.P. Blavatsky, Isis Unveiled, Vol I, p. 262)

So..you still going to lay down the Milk and the Cookies and saying "Ho" three times. Reminds me of Beatlejuice the movie lol.

Hang your stockings and say your prayers,
'Cause Satan Claws comes tonight..

A Slay that he rides, the arch is identical to the ring of Saturn!

Santa, Satan, Saturn.

I could go on forever.

Santa Claus is Satan Claws. Of course, HE LOVES LITTLE CHILDREN SITTING ON HIS KNEE!

Grow up, the lot of ya!
No to mention I know children that went through Christmas and got NOTHING! I am really irritated at the business-minded-marketing-trickery that all you gullible people believe in. Christmas was also made to keep the classes tied down to materialistic goods, to make their children believe that love is infact materialistic belongings.

Pack of annoying snobs!

I know Santa is real! When I was five we were flying out on a Christmas eve red-eye to see my relatives out east. Before we left, we went to Mass, and when we came home we saw this bright red flashing light reflecting off the front of the house. When we got inside, the presents were under the tree!

Now, how else could that have happened?

(Dad still won't let me in on the secret, but I suppose it's good to keep at least one magical memory)

Thanks for the uplifting post!

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You seem to be under the misapprehension that we actually believe what we're writing here. It's called festive joviality or what we like to call "fun".

Try looking up the word "satire" in a dictionary and you might just understand what we're going on about.

I believe that it is in fact you who needs to grow up for throwing a tantrum over such a pathetic thing as a joke.

Wow!

You are all officially twisted and disturbed.

Go seek help.



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Originally posted by the_denv
No to mention I know children that went through Christmas and got NOTHING!

It's called being on the Naughty List.

Originally posted by nik1halo
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You seem to be under the misapprehension that we actually believe what we're writing here. It's called festive joviality or what we like to call "fun".

Try looking up the word "satire" in a dictionary and you might just understand what we're going on about.

I believe that it is in fact you who needs to grow up for throwing a tantrum over such a pathetic thing as a joke.

The OP states otherwise, the OP doesn't say the word "satire" so why say the word? A thread with the word "DEBUNKED" is sure to get attention, I am a conspiracy theorist and (for me) the word "debunked" is like waving a red flag to a bull. I don't need to grow up at all, I was not throwing a tantrum and the OP doesnt NOT state it is a "joke" or a "hoax", so your wrong. I don't take it as a joke, this is research not a damn comedy club.

Originally posted by ch1ldofthe70s

Originally posted by the_denv
No to mention I know children that went through Christmas and got NOTHING!

It's called being on the Naughty List.

No its called their parents were so poor the child got nothing and the entire family are very nice people. This is what Christmas does to people, it divides them and makes people feel unloved if they dont get bought a present.

Santa destroys families, and your brought up from birth to believe in a thing that does NOT exist. Its a form of brainwashing and more serious than any of you think. Indoctrination infact.



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Oh my God!

If you couldn't figure out that this thread wasn't serious, from the words "Santa does exist", then you have serious problems my friend. You only have to read the OP to get that!

When God was handing out brains, you were obviously otherwise engaged, probably trying to find evidence of the existence of Santa

Originally posted by the_denv
No its called their parents were so poor the child got nothing and the entire family are very nice people. This is what Christmas does to people, it divides them and makes people feel unloved if they dont get bought a present.

Santa destroys families, and your brought up from birth to believe in a thing that does NOT exist. Its a form of brainwashing and more serious than any of you think. Indoctrination infact.

There was a time I would have bought into that drab and dreary frame of thinking. But I will tell you this, the spirit of Santa is alive and well in my home, neighborhood and county. Despite the fact that this is the poorest county in NY, despite the fact that my county has the highest unemployment rate in the state, despite the fact that we have hum-buggers and season scoffers, organizations like Toys for Tots still get record breaking donations every year. People gripe about organized religion yet my neighbor (Atheists that celebrate Christmas...there's a contradiction in beliefs) has received gifts from the Christmas Holiday Fund which is sponsored by the Methodist church for their kids 3 years running. Its all about the spirit of Santa IMHO. So yes Santa is real, because his spirit lives through those of us, and those around us, that carry on his work. There are programs all over the country, so if you kow anyone that will possibly go without, take the initiative and look into some on their behalf. If you do then TA-DA! You have the spirit.

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Ah the Holidays nothing quite brings out the best in people, well except the death of a loved one when the surviving family starts fighting over the deceased’s estate!

Living in Miami (I have for a very long time now) it’s kind of hard to get that Christmas spirit when the mercury hovers in the mid 80’s every day and the Palm Trees are just as green as ever. Global Warming! You would think the rest of the world would very much welcome it so it could be in the mid 80’s every day, every where. I could travel more!

Alas one of my business associates mentioned to me yesterday it didn’t feel very much like Christmas this year, that the mood just wasn’t there out in the streets or in the stores.

That’s truly a shame if that’s the case (I wouldn’t know, I try to avoid the streets and the stores!) because more than anything Christmas is about peace on earth, joy, comity, good will, forgiveness, sharing and most importantly love.

Yes we can all complain about the commercialism, the entrenched institution that it is replete with pressures to perform and to give. We can complain that Jesus wasn’t born on December 25th but most likely in March. We can complain that perhaps Jesus never existed that the whole Holiday is based on a lie and yet another way to make the economically rich get richer at the poor’s expense.

Yet one thing isn’t a lie, and that’s the smile of happiness on a child’s face when they receive that special gift that they wanted, or the smile on a long since seen friend or relative or loved one when you show up at their door, or that smile on that harried and expectant cook’s face who after days of preparation, labor and cooking receives that first compliment on their magically heeling uncooked pudding pie that reforms itself after every slice that sends you to the hospital with salmonella from being gracious enough to ask for a second slice of that miracle uncooked raw eggs delight!

The spirit in your heart and the happiness in your soul is as real and as great as you will allow it to be, even after putting the myths aside and the commercialism aside and the political correctness aside.

The plain truth is as I look around the world those other 364 days a year, even here on ATS where it’s war, death, theft, lies and video tape and do you have a link for all of the above, the world might in fact need an entrenched enforced day for people to act like loving human beings.

The world in fact could use a lot more days when the selfish and self absorbed, narcissistic and self-centered are compelled to do something selfless and loving no matter how much it pains them and their sensibilities.

As an agnostic who has had every Christmas myth save one debunked I still love and look forward to Christmas every year.

What’s the one myth that hasn’t been debunked?

Why Santa of course!

Yes many of you will claim that there is no Santa that not once in your lives of lies, and machinations, greed and selfishness, egos and sadism that Santa has ever come to call upon you…

Gee I wonder why? Naughty, naughty!

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That post made me feel all warm and fuzzy. Santas isn't about materials but spreading "joy and cheer". There are many ways one can do that. My favourite memory of christmas has always been my nana and grandpa sitting at the kitchen table drinking eggnog and doing magic tricks to my wide-eyed delight.

Great thread OP Even ATS should be able to poke fun at our own sillyness sometimes.

If a creepy old man in a red suit came down my chimney, I'd knock him out cold and boot him out the front door.

How to Trap Santa Video on YouTube.

Enjoy!

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
If a creepy old man in a red suit came down my chimney, I'd knock him out cold and boot him out the front door.

And that is exactly the spirit to have when dealing with the public menace that is Santa.

He's gonna take over the World I tells ya!

No one is safe, lock up your children and tell your wife you love her, you may not get another chance. Hot countries are the only safe place, as Santa will melt in hot weather this is why a) He lives in the North Pole, and b) there is currently war in the Middle East. It's not over oil, but the land and the safety of the warmer climate.

(ok, am I taking this too far now?)