The Clone Conspiracy: Stars and Celebrity Clones

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posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
Just to be sure, the cartilage of the external ear and the nose continue to grow throughout life. That is why old people have large ears and noses. These structures should not be used as definitive markers when unmasking the clones.


That is a matter of dispute. In some countries, like Germany, the ear is used for identification like a fingerprint. There are other scientists that advocate using ear biometrics for identification. Crime labs also use ears for identification.

See Impostor detection methods for more...




posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:02 AM
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hey very cool pics, very interesting.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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Not sure if we're dealing w/ a clone here, but certainly a very good impostor (but not good enough lol):

I don't believe in Featles: CIAlebrity impersonator, "John Lennon"

[edit on 16-5-2010 by someotherguy]



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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The profile is rounder on the right:




posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 12:54 AM
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So if you think that Jean Sarkozy is Alexander the Great - and who ever his stylist is is doing a fantastic job of making him look like him - then Nicholas's harlot isn't the one that is interesting. His first wife is Marie-Dominique Culioli.




And Olympias, mother of Alexander of Macedonia.






posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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Oh, and since Alexander of Macedonia took over what is Iran this begs the question then.

Who is Ahmadinejad? Which Parthenian King is he?



posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by Aeons
Oh, and since Alexander of Macedonia took over what is Iran this begs the question then.

Who is Ahmadinejad? Which Parthenian King is he?



Hi Aeons,


While I must admit not being overly fascinated by that person, it is pertinent to investigate this further. First, we may consider that he did not arrive innocently on to the political scene. Here is evidence that he was instrumental to Ayatollah Khomeini during the first conflicts with the USA after the Shah.


Photo shows Iran leader as '79 U.S. hostage taker


So we must consider if he happened into this by circumstance, or if the Ayatollah who was sponsored by Priory of Sion master French President Francois Mitterrand - also probably member of the Rose Cross given his instauration of the Rose as symbol of his Socialist Party - was also used to further the cause of the Clone Conspiracy? We have already earlier noted that Mitterrand's son was cloned from King of the Gauls Vercingetorix and his nephew from Roman Emperor Marius.


For this we can examine the following lineages in the history of the Persian Empire:


Persian Empire Timeline


Among these emerges a candidate as donor for Ahmadinejad's DNA:


Seleucus I Nicator


While there are a number of parameters which don't make for a perfect match, there are several others which give cause to ponder. Representations of leaders in those early days were Deified, and in former colonies may also have been somewhat Hellenised (artistic modifications of features to correspond to a Greek Ideal). For this reason a number of representations must be compared to photographs of the current potential Clone. Here are a few such comparisons.


Ahmadinejad and Selecius



Ahmadinejad and Selecius



Ahmadinejad and Selecius



What seem to match are the arcades above the eyes, the general skull shape, the chin and nose. However the nose on some of Seleucus' representations may have been Hellenised as well as his hairstyle. Eye size is smaller and Ahmadinejad's nose appears to have been broken making it somewhat more arched. The ears do have however a certain similarity, taking into account that the lighting in each photograph used in the comparison was different and that we are comparing a right ear to a left ear.


Ahmadinejad and Selecius ear comparison



Given that this comparison does not stem from any unconscious "inspiration" on my behalf bringing to light a resemblance, I cannot attest to the accuracy of this. However, given the Puppet-like behavior of Ahmadinejad we can only assume that he is not a normal individual but more likely either a mind controlled Clone or a Clone used as a Host for an Alien.



GS



posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 10:59 AM
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Aeons,


Given that your postings referred to Cloned Leaders and not Cloned Stars and Celebrities, I have moved my replies to page 23 of the Cloned Leaders thread where you will find a more exhaustive reply. Thanks for sticking here to Stars and Celebrities and posting about Political Leaders in the other thread.


The Clone Conspiracy: Royal and Presidential Clones


Thanks for your very interesting participation!


Getsmart



posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by someotherguy
Not sure if we're dealing w/ a clone here, but certainly a very good impostor (but not good enough lol):

I don't believe in Featles: CIAlebrity impersonator, "John Lennon"



Hi Someotherguy,


Thanks for bringing forth one of the more puzzling and heart breaking Celebrity Substitutions in recent history. He appears to be a very good body double and not necessarily a genetic clone of John Lennon. This is further supported by the fact that once replaced he changed height several times and Yoko Ono recently let it slip out that there were several John Lennons. Slight differences in appearance are several and they also show significant simultaneous character change. This is enough to suggest a replacement, and had he been a picture perfect body double we could have supposed a Clone which is not necessarily the case.


John Lennon was a very important personality in shaping the Ethos of the 60's Counter Culture. We can therefore assume that at such a strategic position, the Tavistock Institute would have ensured at minimum a strong complicity and obedience from a dedicated agent, or would have taken measures to kill and replace one with so much power to oppose their Agenda.


For this I recommend reading the very informative book by John Coleman published in 2005 titled:

The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations: Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political and Economic Decline of the United States.


Regarding the role of the Beatles in this Illuminati Control Process he states the following:


"Tavistock's new science scientists were confident that we would not apply the principle "for every effect there must be a cause"— and they were right. For instance we meekly accepted the "Beatles" and their "novel music" and lyrics -i f one dare call it music and lyrics, having been told, that the group wrote it all themselves."

"Actually Tavistock graduate Theo Adorno, whose 12-atonal discords were scientifically pitched to create mass "environmental social turbulences" all across America, wrote the music. None of the Beatles could read music. Nevertheless, they were "puffed" day and night without ceasing until everything about them, - lies and all, was accepted as truth.

Tavistock proved over and over again, that when a large group is successfully profiled, it can be subjected to "inner directional conditioning" in just about every aspect of social and political life. An integral part of Tavistock's mass mind control experiments"

..."Because of Tavistock-created and supported programs, we in the United States have suffered a terrible degradation of our moral life, our religious life; debasement of music through the aberration of rock and roll "music," which became progressively worse following a relatively tame introduction by The Beatles followed by Rap and Hip-Hop; destruction of art, as we see pushed by PBS in the Mapplethorpe degenerate objects of derision. We have seen a proliferation of the drug culture and an intensified worship of the Golden Calf. The lust for money has never been higher in any civilization than the current one."

..."Nowhere is mind control "brainwashing" of huge segments of the American public so noticeable, as it is in "the music and entertainment industry. Decades later, misguided, uninitiated people still get angry with me over my exposure of the "Beatles" as a Tavistock project. Now, I fully expect the same people who tell me that they know all about the history of the "Beatles"; that they are musicians and I am not, to question the following":

"Did you know that so-called "Rap" music is another Tavistock program? So is "Hip-Hop." As inane and idiotic as the words are (one can hardly call them "lyrics,") these words have been crafted by the technician in mind control and behavior modification, so that they would fit in and became an integral part of Tavistock's gang wars program for America's major cities. The chief purveyors of this "music" and indeed all so-called "Rock" and "Pop" music (excuse the use of Tavistock jargon) are: Time Warner. Sony. Bertelsman. EMI. The Capital Group. Seagram Canada. Philips Electronic. The Indies."



From other research we can consider that Tavistock and thier Illuminati order givers are only accomplishing this destructive deed against Humanity at the bequest of an Alien power, seeking our utter destruction and annihilation, not so much physically - which could be done much more simply and efficiently - but especially SPIRITUALLY since this carries all the appearances of being A WAR WAGED FOR OUR SOULS.


GS

edit on 25-9-2010 by Getsmart because: of typos



posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 11:54 AM
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You know, I don't believe even a little bit about all the alien/reptiles etc. stuff.

However, I think you are onto something. Some of the people you are pointing out as clones and are discussing their ears.

Ears are a genetic trait. They don't change over time.

One person's ears changing over the course of time is suspicious.

Are they clones? No. Clones would have the same earlobes.

But they could be look a like replacements. People who pass muster by having face geometry which is acceptable to people - particularly if you give them something to attribute changes to. Plastic surgery, a stint a hard core drug user. Something.



posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 12:09 PM
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This is an interesting post....

Some week ago I watched a BBC interview with Katy Perry and I noticed that she somewhat looked different than I saw her in an other interview with David Letterman. No it wasn't the make-up she had put on. Her chin looked different.

I do not know if his should mean that she is now sacrificed and dead, my first thought was it could only be because that way she could be at two places at the same time.....at two different places on the globe. That way she doesn't need to travel that much and still make a ton of money with the hits she is making one after an other these days.

After reading this thread I will certainly keep an eye on her and try to focus on other features of her face and ears.



posted on Sep, 26 2010 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by Aeons
You know, I don't believe even a little bit about all the alien/reptiles etc. stuff.



Hi Aeons,


Your position is not only respectable but entirely logical. Without overwhelming evidence of such things nothing should make us believe in them. I actually have a hard time understanding how sometimes people can believe in things which although I witnessed first hand I still have a hard time accepting them, when they themselves may not have direct evidence of this being factual. They may however know enough about what lies around a possible fact that it becomes self evident even without first hand experience.


The reason your disbelief is logical is not just because one may tend to believe "on faith", something which doesn't comply with positivist empiricism, but more importantly is the intellectual requirement that we MUST keep a very strong measure of skepticism given that there is so much conflicting information and misleading interpretation out there. When you hear countless different versions of reality in cacophonist symphony, what is needed to thrash out the truth? We need strong subjective references of what we intimately KNOW to be true. Upon that basis only can we establish further potential interpretations of phenomena and events to gradually eliminate falsehood leaving only truth remaining.


So, unless you have what you deem to be SOLID evidence of this, believing in Aliens - and more-so yet in the presence here of Reptile Humanoids - would be downright silly. In my case, I received quite involuntarily such evidence, which passes my own test of evidence as I had occasion to verify this in person. I have hence been forced to make room for this factor within the deductive framework of analysis. You will readily agree that such a parameter does not make for an easy interpretation of events, especially as exposed by mainstream news and establishment media.



Originally posted by Aeons
However, I think you are onto something. Some of the people you are pointing out as clones and are discussing their ears.

Ears are a genetic trait. They don't change over time.

One person's ears changing over the course of time is suspicious.

Are they clones? No. Clones would have the same earlobes.



As Someotherguy has mentioned, ears are used for identification purposes and are usually the focus of choice for intelligence agencies trying to identify body doubles of politicians during public manifestations or official State travel. What is genetically determined is the "inner ear" structure, while the surrounding soft cartilage can reportedly change depending upon early amniotic fluid composition, gestation stress and early birthing and infant rearing environments. Height can also change depending on stress and nutrition, as has been verified in control situations where identical twins have been raised in highly divergent conditions reaching significantly different adult body heights.


What does not change is skull shape - unless during pregnancy or birthing the head is compressed and deformed while still soft - nor does the bone structure of the face and jawline. This facial geometry is therefore the primary key to ascertaining the identity of an individual. For example, in identifying whether James Paul McCartney was replaced by an impostor, incorrect head shape yields the initial evidence that it cannot be the same man. Next we can find differences in the jawline and mouth size, eye slant angles, etc. Further details can be found simply by clicking on my signature link to a blog which has quite comprehensive details about forensic evidence of this replacement.


Regarding Clones having the same Ear Lobes, we can assume that while this might be accurate, nothing would prevent surgical modification of this feature at birth among certain select clones as a "signature" encoding, enabling those in the know to differentiate between several identical reproductions of an otherwise identical individual. Of course, when later using one such clone to replace a given person in a high profile public position, one would need to surgically "adjust" this minor tell-tale feature so that his/her physique would become fully compatible for a "stealth" replacement.


In the other thread about potentially cloned political leaders (see links in above posts) a pattern was noted whereby there were different lobes discovered as systematically similar for subjects found in the former Soviet Union, those (presumably originals?) in Europe, and those in the United States. If true, which is as of yet unproven, this could imply that some other power, some form of global secret government already in place during the Cold War, might have operated such a program with the complicity of secret societies and/or intelligence agencies worldwide. But what possible motives could humans have had to operate something so strange and obtuse? Might such a power, with such an odd and dubious program, have been necessarily human in origin? Thus the Alien postulate needing to be verified.



Originally posted by Aeons
But they could be look a like replacements. People who pass muster by having face geometry which is acceptable to people - particularly if you give them something to attribute changes to. Plastic surgery, a stint a hard core drug user. Something.



A few days ago I came across an issue of People Magazine in which Brad Pitt was shown sporting a long beard which hid his features to a great extent. This is a technique often used to conceal noticeable differences, and to somehow erase the cognitive memories of a former set of feature identifiers in people's minds by "smudging" them with images of a strangely bearded persona. Then you can, after a sufficient time of wearing a beard mask, remove the beard, and any changes in features will be attributed by the media and even by the public themselves to the change from bearded to shaved, rather than to discrepancies between the earlier original shaved and later impostor shaved physiognomies.


Brad Pitt (?) in disguise phase



It has been suspected that he was replaced several years ago, as can be noted in this thread where it is also noted with photographic confirmation that "Brad Pitt was thrown out by a security guard at the premiere of his new movie ("The Curious Case of Benjamin Button"). The guard apparently didn't recognize him - thought he was paparazzo".


Brad Pitt - a Celebrity Doppelganger?


It should be noted that many such 'bouncers' just like specially trained security staff in Casinos are professional physiognomists. As trained in visual identification of physical traits and facial features, we can consider such professional assessment to be at least as good as our own. That a night club bouncer is also a physiognomist can be ascertained at random over the internet where an instant search gave the following Bounce Curriculum Vitae which states as experience: "Bouncer & Physiognomist - Night Surveillance and control of public areas"


Close Protection Officer Job wanted


It is interesting to note that a similar ploy was used for ALL FOUR BEATLES when the appeared on the Sgt Pepper album cover, fully disguised in beards and fantasy military full dress costume. It has been assessed by a number of researchers that this was done to conceal at least one, if not several, replacements of members of the band.


We will note that numerous celebrities have been replaced - whether by surgically modified impostors or by cloned doubles remains to be ascertained on a case by case basis - usually after a removal from public view for several months prior to reappearing as having been through psychological hell, severe physical trauma, psychological transformational therapy or any number of other cover stories to justify that they seem to have changed significantly enough that people cannot fail to notice. This way the explanation for such noted changes is given preemptively. Drug, alcohol and sex addiction and rehab being those used most recently, possibly to derive an additional value of role model suggestions to legitimize such moral decadence among their fans, thus undermining balanced traditional family values in society.


The more you research celebrity replacements, the more aware you become of the sheer size and extensiveness of this "program", the less explainable it becomes using typical motives such as global dominance, economic control of resources, political influence or building any form of a social ideal or ideology. What remains is something distinctly inhuman in character, which aims at destroying the very essence of humanity similarly to a war waged against our souls. This leaves us with only 2 competing hypotheses, the older and more traditional one of the battle of Good versus Evil and the Devil and his minions aiming to rob us of our souls, and the more recent eclectic theory that some form of Alien or extraterrestrial beings are infiltrating Earth's power structures and using the influence of celebrity role models to achieve their own Agenda, one which we cannot yet understand.


For What It's Worth...


GS



posted on Sep, 26 2010 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by zatara
This is an interesting post....

Some week ago I watched a BBC interview with Katy Perry and I noticed that she somewhat looked different than I saw her in an other interview with David Letterman. No it wasn't the make-up she had put on. Her chin looked different.

I do not know if his should mean that she is now sacrificed and dead, my first thought was it could only be because that way she could be at two places at the same time.....at two different places on the globe. That way she doesn't need to travel that much and still make a ton of money with the hits she is making one after an other these days.

After reading this thread I will certainly keep an eye on her and try to focus on other features of her face and ears.



Hi Zatara, thanks for joining in the discussion.


I must confess to not knowing much about Katy Perry. I only noticed that some paparazzi sort of 'let the cat out of the bag' by noting that she is "In disguise" or "is this really Katy Perry?" in the following article with photos taken in notorious "MK-Ultra Mind Control Programming Site" located in this resort Island at Nassau:


Katy Perry at "Atlantis" in the Bahamas


Artemis in the Doppelganger forum has suggested that she may well have been replaced by Siwan Morris who does seem to be the one hiding behind sunglasses in that Caribbean escapade, or perhaps by Zooey Deschanel.


Siwan Morris and Katy Perry



Zooey Deshanel



Pictures of Zooey Deschanel


However, while this may have happened it also appears that Katy Perry may have been sort of robotized or zombie controlled in the form of a clone or something similar? Since your post I have taken a brief glance at her and found that in certain discussion forums she is claimed to have been switched out or somehow 'possessed' with reference made to her recent new "bug eyes" as can be seen here:


Katy Perry with zombie gaze



Guess what? I'm not a robot!



The following photo allegedly presented recently to the press by her own grandmother does not pass even a rudimentary initial visual image analysis.


Falsified Child Modeling Photo?


Despite the distortion from the angle taken in photographing the picture, which may be purposeful to better dissimulate image manipulation, we can note considerable disproportion between the size of her hand and face, as well as the fact that her hat does not seem to be around her head but somewhat suspended in front of it. The original photo's camera angle and objective could probably not have created such distortions, making one consider if this picture was not intended to present a similar youthful Zombie Gaze to squash any rumors of her far more recent wide eyed stare? Similar tampered youth photos were systematically produced to conceal the replacement of James Paul McCartney with an impostor, so this is a well-known routine practice of those operating celebrity replacements.


Whether Katy Perry was replaced by a surgically modified impostor or a mind controlled clone is anyone's guess, as I have not done sufficient image analysis to point either way. However, we will note that she does not seem to be "the same person" where it really counts, in her identity and persona. Some have concluded that she has been demon possessed or became host so an Alien entity much like in the movie Avatar. Pick your own flavor.



Katy Perry's bridal shower


Do we see here a Tribute to Lewis Carroll who was involved in the dimensional mind control lore of early efforts in Britain to fragment and manipulate multiple personalities, or was it only a pretext to mask a doppelganger beneath a Blue Wig?


Alice in Wonderland in the Mind Control Timeline


While dated that link provides an interesting Mind Control organization chart showing the links and complicities in this greatest of human treacheries whereby we are deceived and manipulated on multiple fronts. This chart however is dated and does not present the more recent ramifications of the past thirty years.


Mind Control Ramifications



Regarding your concern that the real genuine and original Katy Perry might have been ritually sacrificed prior to her replacement, this is a strong and poignant concern for most fans who come to realize that their favorite celebrity has been replaced. This has been the case in the notorious instance of the presumed death of Paul McCartney in the late 60's and since for quite a large number of other personalities.


While there is much evidence of patterns of ritual child sacrifice blood letting ceremonies by the Satanist cults of the Illuminati Elite behind much of the celebrity replacement, there isn't at this date evidence or testimony of such groups actually killing and ritually sacrificing adult celebrities. This might be the case, however it remains to be established as fact. There is also another competing theory for what might have become of these people who appear to have vanished in mass from our society, never again to be seen in public view while replaced either with makeshift actors assuming their role as impostors, or possibly by cloned mind controlled replacements.


This will shut down many folks who are resistant to any extraterrestrial hypothesis or who cannot fathom that our Elite might have hidden technology and programs which are far beyond what we may now conceive as being within their power. It is the theory according to which the Illuminati may have had access to Space travel for many decades beyond what we've been privy to, that they have explored several planets of the Solar System since the 1950's, that NASA and the military have run secret Astronaut programs presenting the official rockets as State of the Art only to deceive the public, and that bases have been built with secret funds on or inside several planets and have been 'colonized' by carefully chosen individuals - with or without their consent - whose disappearance might be hidden from public view by replacing them by doppelgangers.


This version is presented in the COSMIC CONFLICT & THE DA'ATH WARS by a research collective under the assumed name of Branton from which I quote from their file 12:


""The Elite Corporate/Military/Governmental Complex of this country (and its' connection to One-World control cliques) are currently in negotiation with the Draco. They have threatened 'Fail-Safe', if the Draco (the Serpent Race) and their minions ('The Greys' and their human Agents) do not stop exploitation of the Earth. In other words, an Elite Control Group (who have moved most of their chosen race, to Underground Cities on the Moon & MARS) are willing to launch 'Super-Dirty' Nuclear Weapons (from Deep Sub-City Bases, manned by patriotic 'mind controlled' orphans) to poison this entire Planet and kill everyone, so that no one can have the Jewel EARTH ('The Divine Tear')... "


Much of this statement seems at first view to be diatribe, yet several elements can be analyzed. First, the idea of the possible presence and contact with an alien species referred to as the Draco is an assumption which will determine whether you choose to read further or reject this as idiotic conjecture. Second, it presents as fact that this 'Serpent Race' has worked with the notorious Alien Grey infamous for the abduction phenomena, an allegation which you either accept as true with a considerable body of testimonial evidence or prefer to consider to be an utter fabricated fantasy. Lastly this suggest the establishment of man-made underground cities on Mars and the Moon - celestial bodies which we have officially only just barely started to tentatively explore, using remote-controlled rovers.


Added to this is a background allegation that there is an ongoing war for our world, in which Aliens are trying to take full control of the Earth. In this 'exopolitical' scenario we are told that to prevent such an invasion - when we are militarily, technologically and scientifically surpassed by these Invaders - that a Strategy of [Burnt Earth' is being literally engaged, with the entire planet in hostage as the object of potential destruction: "If you invade us, then we will blow ourselves up along with you!" would be the message given to the enemy. By using reserves of life forms in remotely located modern day "Noah's Arks" situated on or inside other planets, they would have built bases there with colonies composed of samplings of human beings, chosen for their quality and diversity of genetic makeup as well as privileged carriers of culture and knowledge. We can assume that leading scientists and artists would have been chosen for their intelligence, creativity or propensity to procreate and that members of Elite families would have elected to relocate there if things get too nasty and dangerous on Earth.


Former President Dwight D. Eisenhower great-granddaughter has exposed her attempted recruitment into a secret Mars colony project


Could this be where the ORIGINAL Celebrities who were replaced have been shuttled off to? Were they granted this opportunity? Could this be elective, might they also have taken with them members of their entourage - for example we can note that Paul McCartney's brother Mike was also replaced by an impostor.


Let us only hope that this grim scenario is not the reality with which we are confronted, and the ghastly face of which peers at us through the bizarre pattern of replaced celebrities. With a bit of luck there is a less shocking explanation which will be brought forth by additional research, here in this thread or elsewhere.


GS

edit on 26-9-2010 by Getsmart because: of the addition of a Youtube link.



posted on Sep, 28 2010 @ 10:56 PM
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Recently I watched a movie starring French actor Gerard Depardieu and suddenly noticed something about his appearance and demeanor which reminded me of the old Merovingian King Dagobert, at least what I'd imagine him to look like. However, upon verification, I was wrong. So I checked out the better known among that lineage of "Long Haired Kings" who were said to gain their strength and power from their hair which they never cut. But upon verification these didn't correspond to his physique either. So then I thought of what I would do should I be a 'deranged cloner afflicted with geneticist folly' wishing to artificially resurrect the Meroviingian Dynasty. It would require tracing it to its last known heir and reproducing him. Thereupon, I checked out who that was, and then looked for any resemblance with Gerard Depardieu and the very last of the Merovingian Kings.


Gerard Depardieu and King Childeric III



Childeric III was born circa 714 AD and died circa the year 755. The son of Chilperic II, he became King of the 'Francs' in 743. Brought to the throne by the Palace Mayors Carloman and Pepin the Short, he was deposed by Pepin and his head was symbolically shaved and he was sent off to become a monk at the convent of Sitdiu in Saint Omer.





Pepin went on to rule alone as Palace Mayor with the Pope's blessing. Childeric III was thus the very last of the Merovingian Kings to reign. Pepin's son Carloman went on to become Charlemagne, founder of the Carolingian dynasty who enlarged the Franco-German unification into an Empire.


Image source: Medals of the Merovingian Kings


Interestingly also his now departed son, actor Guillaume Depardieu, looked quite similar to another Merovingian King, Chilperic II.


Guillaume Depardieu and Chilperic II



Finally, another candidate for having a Merovingian heritage is seen here next to Sean Connery.





He is French actor Christopher Lambert has himself a passing resemblance with a third Merovingian King, this time it is Clovis II.


Christopher Lambert and Clovis II



From the Da Vinci Code - accurately or erroneously - we discover that the Merovingian lineage of Kings of France is claimed to descend from Mary Magdalena who allegedly bore almost as 'Demi-Gods' the anointed offspring of Christ. Whether myth or legend, whether historically true or a revisionist falsehood, it is nonetheless possible that the Priory of Sion might be at least partially involved in the Clone Conspiracy, given that it is said to be dedicated to protecting the last hidden descendants of this lineage - although protecting them from whom is not altogether quite clear.


However, it is important to consider the shortcomings of identifying an individual on the basis of an non contemporary artistic rendition using only the profile on a medal and without corroborating pictorials which more faithfully represent the actual traits of the original individuals suspected of having been cloned. Nonetheless the similarity in features is unusual as this shows a pattern seen elsewhere in French media and politics. For example a French labor leader Bernard Thibault has more than a striking resemblance with Clovis III.


Bernard Thibault and Clovis III



Clovis III and Bernard Thibault



While this individual is far from as internationally known as the more famous actors who may also be clones of Merovingian Kings, he is nonetheless very close to the power brokers who run the show in France, as the following photos attest.


Bernard Thibault and French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin



Bernard Thibault and President Sarkozy



And to conclude, the first Merovingian I started out looking for turned out to be yet another French actor Thierry Lhermitte noted for his eerie bright blue eyes.





Thierry Lhermitte and Dagobert I



While there seem to be a number of other Merovingian Clones walking about, in order to wrap up this post, here is a snapshot of two of them in a movie together called 'The Closet' about homosexuality, hopefully in this case not among blood relatives!



Gerard Depardieu and Thierry Lhermitte in The Closet



I have also noted other uses of clones of prestigious individuals from the past in ridiculing or otherwise unflattering roles as slapstick comics or unsavory personalties, causing me to wonder whether those in power in the Secret Government, whether human or Alien, enjoy playing mind games by creating vicarious living vendettas against those who may have opposed them in the distant past?


GS

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posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 02:26 AM
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GS, you said "So I checked out the better known among that lineage of "Long Haired Kings" who were said to gain their strength and power from their hair which they never cut. "

I have read that theory in Eastern (yogi/occult) philosophy, too. Maybe they had some esoteric knowledge about that.



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 03:28 AM
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Yeah, Project Monarch...



I wouldn't doubt that many Female Celebrities are actually moonlighting as Hardcore Porn Stars as a part of Project Monarch.

You know... for the impressionable Youth and All.

-Edrick



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by someotherguy
GS, you said "So I checked out the better known among that lineage of "Long Haired Kings" who were said to gain their strength and power from their hair which they never cut. "

I have read that theory in Eastern (yogi/occult) philosophy, too. Maybe they had some esoteric knowledge about that.



Hi Someotherguy,


What was said of their hair is that it granted them special MAGIC powers. There was, in these days prior even to the Middle Ages, a lot of mysticism and a greater emphasis on spirituality than in today's materialistic modern societies. Did they know something which we do not?


It is actually amusing to observe that the most materialistic of sciences, the empirical and mathematical study of matter and energy through theoretical physics, is today bringing us full circle and causing society to confront the possibility that we don't live in 3 dimensions plus time, but our world is said today to have many more dimensions than that. Current arguments count between 11 and over 30 different dimensions of physical reality. This means that the term "physical" therefore needing to be redefined for us laymen, as much of it cannot at this time be either perceived by our senses or measured with instruments. Nonetheless it has been established as factual and with incidence upon other phenomena, thanks to mathematical calculations tested with particle collisions.


So today we find some physicists going so far as to say that there might be Aliens we cannot living among us, but in other dimensions. They may have come to this conclusion by empirical means but it all boils down to saying the same thing that religions and mystical belief systems have declared as factual for thousands of years: that there are Entities out there which are spirits without physical bodies, meaning that the do not have a physical presence in our own experienced dimensions, yet they do exist and can manifest at times by various means as well as influence some events in our own world.


Spirits, ghosts, angels, demons, ghouls, gnomes, elves, fairies, so many are the descriptions and the multiplicity of nature of their character and motivations that we can question whether there isn't in this UNSEEN Ethereal world a broad range of different creatures and beings which might be from time to time among us.


Some scientists go so far as to suggest that space travel might be assisted for great distances by jumping between these dimensions in order to bend space, meaning that you go out of our own space dimension at our own location "Here & Now" and re-enter it again at your chosen location and period of history. This means simultaneous Space and Time Travel. Choose where and when you want to to and then dial it into your control panel and, like by magic, there you go!


A number of Ufologists believe that this is the way a number of Alien species from extra-terrestrial origins have come to Earth, explaining usefully by that how they use technology to appear and suddenly vanish into thin air. It also serves to provide an explanation of how people are taken directly through the walls or roofs of their homes when abducted by Alien Grays, as was shown to be the case of the main character's daughter in the movie "The Forth Kind" where a policemen stationed outside the house witnessed this occurrence..


Therefore, to get back to your initial comment, there is very much which we do not know, and many forthcoming truths are bound to surprise us. So I will not cast any definitive judgment upon whether their specific hair length could carry within it certain characteristics. Could it not also be a way of preventing others of performing magic using as a carrier for spell targeting your hair which contains your DNA - thus interfering with other 'magical powers' which might have been cast for your lineage? Whatever...


Regarding these 'long haired Kings' here is another candidate for having been artificially 'gifted' with Merovingian DNA. The happy recipient might be none other than one of France's most popular folk singers, a man who is appreciated across age groups and social classes, and who has had some serious impact on French politics.


Something of a French 'Bob Dylan' whose monotone rhythmic lyrics with political overtones struck a chord with a larger proportion of the population, his active militant support during Francois Mitterrand's presidential campaigns brought with it the youth vote as well as confirmed that his candidacy was genuinely leftist, although Mitterrand had previously been a Minister in the far right Vichy Government which collaborated with Hitler during WWII.


French singer 'Renaud' with President Mitterrand



Young Renaud and Young King Thierry IV



Renaud and Merovingian King Thierry IV



Thierry IV and Renaud



We have noted in the other Clone Conspiracy thread how President Mitterrand is at minimum associated with if not more central than that in the Cloning of Bloodline Monarchs, given that both his son and nephew were themselves cloned from Royal and Imperial DNA. So it may come as no surprise that those clones promoted into celebrity as performers in show business would lend their support to either their cloned brethren in the political arena, or their cloning Masters such as Mitterrand. Word to the advised: "Next time you hear of a Celebrity endorsing a Politician, ask yourself, were is the clone?"...



GS



posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Edrick
Yeah, Project Monarch...

I wouldn't doubt that many Female Celebrities are actually moonlighting as Hardcore Porn Stars as a part of Project Monarch.

You know... for the impressionable Youth and All.

-Edrick



Hi Edrick,


Project Monarch may well have been an extension of what was already being done with genetically controlled Bloodliners who were artificially created by SELECTIVE BREEDING just as one would do with horses or cattle.


It seems that along with the induced genetic vulnerability to schizophrenia and personality alters - or demonic possession if you prefer that interpretation of this phenomenon - there was all along the upbringing of these Monarchs and their siblings a terrible regime of harsh treatments, physical and psychological abuse as well as serious hardship caused by separation from their parents entrusting them to carefully chosen 'handlers'.


A case in point was Charles II of Spain who was sufficiently plagued with birth defects that he was the very last ruler of the tragically inbred Habsburg lineage.


Charles II - a Cloning Experiment gone wrong...



"Charles II is known in Spanish history as El Hechizado ("The Bewitched") from the popular belief - to which Charles himself subscribed - that his physical and mental disabilities were caused by "sorcery" rather than the much more likely cause: centuries of inbreeding within the Habsburg dynasty (in which first cousin and uncle/niece matches were commonly used to preserve a prosperous family's hold on its multifarious territories). Charles' own immediate pedigree was exceptionally populated with nieces giving birth to children of their uncles: Charles' mother was niece of Charles' father, being daughter of Maria Anna of Spain (1606-46) and Emperor Ferdinand III. Thus, Empress Maria Anna was simultaneously his aunt and grandmother."


"Still, the king was exorcised, and the exorcists of the kingdom were called upon to put straight questions to the devils they cast out. His great-great-great grandmother, Joanna the Mad, mother of the Spanish King Charles I who was also Holy Roman Emperor Charles V - became completely insane early in life; the fear of a taint of insanity ran through the Habsburgs. Charles descended from Joanna a total of 14 times - twice as a great-great-great grandson, and 12 times further..."


"Towards the end of his life Charles became increasingly hypersensitive and strange, at one point demanding that the bodies of his family be exhumed so he could look upon the corpses. He reportedly wept upon viewing the body of his first wife, Marie Louise."



Click for Source Article


That today, using similar individuals with 100% identical genes thanks to the cloning process, it appears that the methods to abuse and fragment the psyche of these victims has been perfected and is currently scientifically administrated. Therefore those projects under the auspices of the Tavistock Institute as well as the CIA programs such as MK-Ultra and Project Monarch are the "Industrialization" of the former mind control of something we can only refer to as "ZOMBIE LEADERS". They have also extended their programs to every walk of life to ensure total control of our societies in the absence of Absolute Power of life and death that the Monarchs used to have.


So it is entirely possible that the persons you brought up may be involved in some rather "DIRTY" business ranging from rampantly perverse sexuality as often alleged to be customary among the Illuminati who associate Orgies with their Satanic Ritual Sacrifice ceremonies.


What remains for us to discover is whether these Clones are "PILOTED" or "Possessed" by Aliens who use them as AVATARS to further their own Agenda on planet Earth without our being aware of their infiltration?


Another possibility is that we have all, since earlier than our known history, been to a degree interfered with by entities from elsewhere who have played Breeding Games with much of our population, choosing to selectively destroy certain portions of their 'experiment' when they wish, by war or genocide as was done during WWII by Hitler - CLONED FROM FREDERIK THE GREAT.


So this may be a far worst situation than "just" a recent Alien Invasion of Earth using Cloned Leaders.


Getsmart



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 04:34 AM
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Here is a newly detected CLONE - notorious for his absence of intellectual coherence and goofy behavior that has actually become his trademark given that he was launched to fame with absolutely NO TALENT for anything and is Famous for being Famous !


His name is Steevy Boulay and he sort of hangs out on TV talk shows, once in a while adding a noteworthy idiotic comment which makes people cringe at his imbecility or otherwise laugh at how incongruous that such an individual should be there. He was known for being on a reality show from which he was quickly eliminated, but despite being bounced off the show for having zero talent he was turned into a Cover Boy placed on the page of the French equivalent of TV GUIDE with the caption: THE STEEVY GENERATION promoting him as a role model for that nation's entire youth. Here the image they promoted, not exactly beaming with intelligence:


Steevy Boulay



His rise to fame probably comes from his Genetic Heritage, with the Media and Entertainment mind control institutions promoting him forcefully into the face of the public due to his unknown mission to server The Clone Conspiracy, encouraging intellectual youth to mental laziness and validating as attractive and appealing the most flagrant stupidity.


He is known for speaking on TV as a chronicler yet he never has anything to say other than some inane and inappropriate comment. He has been consecrated as a VIP having a Puppet of him made by the Prime Time Satirical Puppet Show "Les Guignols de l'Info" which is so notoriously popular that it was credited with having helped Jacques Chirac win the French Presidential Election in 2002.


Steevy Boulay Puppet



Interestingly the person he was presumably cloned from was the same country's very first Portrait Artist who was initiated to some degree, as he was not only trusted in the presence of the highest nobility but was also known as the first to apply to portraiture the Golden Number he used in calculating the proportions in order to Capture the Attention of the spectator. We will note that he was therefore a Master at focusing attention and directing our vision by design. Such a skill would not go unnoticed by the Illuminati seeking to leverage such abilities in their own agenda of harnessing the public mind.


The Golden Number



LINK: Jean Fouquet in Wikipedia


Here we can see the two of them together. You will note that Jean Fouquet had painted himself in a miniature in the year 1450, some 560 years ago. His copy is almost as vivid as his portrait, and is in living color as HE is in the flesh.


Steevy Boulay and Jean Fouquet



What can be further concluded from this highly visible genetic heritage and the obvious artificial propelling of an unskilled, untalented, inarticulate simpleton into a position as a national TV Star to be revered by youth, is that there is an indisputable PROGRAM TO USE CLONES to further the Illuminati Agenda of Mass Mind Control by media exposure and dumbed down trivial entertainment.


GS



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 07:26 AM
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CLONED MURDERERS spanning across centuries !



Another Media Star whose rise to fame happened for even more dubious reasons is a major CRIMINAL who also turns out to be the CLONE of one if History's most Cruel and Depraved rulers. The Clone became famous worldwide for the horrendous Crimes he committed, but beyond that also for BRAINWASHING a Sect he led and for proclaiming himself Christ Resurrected or, in other terms, The Antichrist.


The DNA source for his cloning was that of Cesar Borgia, of one of the most notoriously vicious and EVIL Italian rulers of the Renaissance era. He is especially known for his incestuous relationship with his sister Lucretia Borgia - the poisoner - who is said to have killed countless people with her mixtures. Borgia was also a model for his cousin Niccolo Machiavelli in his master work The Prince. His offspring mixed bloodlines with the Bourbon family which ruled France for much of the following three centuries. .


LINK: Cesar Borgia on Wikipedia


LINK: Lucretia Borgia on Wikipedia


For those unfamiliar with the shocking Manson Massacre or who never heard of the most famous victim, Sharon Tate, who at that time was the pregnant wife of controversial filmmaker Roman Polanski.


LINK: Charles Manson on Wikipedia


Here you can read something interesting about her OCCULT past, by this quote about the filming of Eye of the Devil.:


LINK: Sharon Tate on Wikipedia


We can verify visually with a degree of accuracy that Charles Manson was CLONED from the DNA of Cesar Borgia.


"Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the EVILEST of them all ?"



Charles Manson and Cesar Borgia



Cesar Borgia next to his father Pope Alexander VI



A final comparison gives confirmation that we are indeed in presence of a clone.





Regarding Lucrezia Borgia, we know that she plotted to have her husband killed, to which he accused her of both Fraternal Incest with Cesar Borgia as well as of Paternal Incest with her father Pope Alexander VI. We can even wonder whose child she may have carried given the play acting out whereby in the Manson killings some 5 centuries later Cesar's Clone kills Lucrezia's Clone's unborn baby in her womb...


Sharon Tate in the movie Eye of the Devil




Sharon Tate and Lucrezia Borgia



While in the preceding post we were able to determine that there is a clear Media Manipulation using CLONES as entertainment celebrities, this discovery shows that the AGENDA is multifold and encompasses many aspects of what makes up our overall reality.


Whatever it may be, whoever may be doing it - IT IS VERY SICK. Aliens or Humans, they need to get psychiatric help!


Getsmart





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