Copenhagen climate summit in chaos after poor countries walk out.

Developing nations walk out of climate talks

THE Copenhagen climate summit is in chaos after poor countries walked out of negotiations en masse today.

The G77, a group which represents 130 developing countries, walked out because it is concerned the existing Kyoto protocol will be abandoned.

Australia's Climate Change Minister Penny Wong confirmed that organisers were trying to fix the problem and coax back the developing world.

Lately, I have come to believe that the conflicts found in this context are really just a proxy for much larger unresolvable disputes elsewhere.

It's all quite a mess.

[edit on 14-12-2009 by loam]

EPIC FAIL!!!

Any bad news coming from this charade is most welcome. No matter what reason.

People walking out in hopes of a better deal? Sounds like the US Senate.

Why doesn't the UN do what they usually do? Just make a resolution condemning Global Warming, and be done with it.

I just love the irony....the biggest fraud in history meeting to take on the biggest hoax in history.

I think that they just realized that they won't be getting a crap load of money. That's really all they wanted. They hope they can be in a one world communist government so everyone will be "equal". I bet 99% of those countries have nothing to lose like, hmmm, i dont know, maybe their sovereignty!! This global summit is a bunch of poop, and I hope nothing comes of it. Because if it does we're all screwed.

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I think there is some merit to what you say...

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Thanks for that. I'm sure most people will either agree or hate me for being such a bigoted, earth hating, flat-earther.

Talk about bringing a smile to my face.

For once we have good news.

So, is this proof of a God? LOL jk jk. (Or am I?)

'Get to work', urges Copenhagen climate summit head
By Richard Black
Environment correspondent, BBC News, Copenhagen

The president of the UN climate summit has urged delegates to "get to work" after protests from developing nations forced a suspension of several hours.

Talks resumed late on Monday after the president, Danish minister Connie Hedegaard, addressed some of the developing countries' concerns.

Their key demand - separate talks on the Kyoto Protocol - was met.

Yeah! the poor countries walked out because they wanted to keep the kyoto agreement.

They said they didn't trust any new deal from scratch which would favor the richer industrialised countries.

However! they all walked back in to the meeting after a while, after a quick cup of coffee and cigarettes!

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Here's a link: 'Get to work'

Thank you loam for bringing this to our attention.

I have long been of the belief that the reason Kyoto excluded developing nations was that those developing nations were not going to agree to its restrictions. Of course, the spin was that they didn't need to comply. Rarely is spin accurate.

This only reinforces that belief. Whether or not climate concerns are legitimate is a moot point where political ambitions come into play.

The only way to effect change on a global scale is to convince all peoples that a danger is real and imminent, and to propose common-sense solutions that actually appeal to the average person. This has not been done; Cap & Trade is seen by many as nothing short of a money/power grab. I state proudly that I am among those who see it as such. Perhaps if there were solid restrictions on carbon dioxide emissions, specific programs for the moneys these carbon credits would bring in, and open, clear information on the methods used to determine the dangers they are intended to prevent, then a public consensus could be reached. In the absence of these things, Copenhagen and any other similar attempt to enforce global restrictions on economies and peoples will be no more than political pandering to specific needs of various entities, all of which will have differing and often opposing interests.

If Kyoto is not overturned, this convention will be a moot point anyway. There is too much opposition in the USA to it for it to be ratified, and any political capital that may have been held has been used up on the recent bailouts. Our representatives know this all too well, and I do not think they will try to forcefully ramrod another grossly unpopular decision down the throats of the citizens.

If Kyoto is overturned, the developing nations will rebel against the convention because they will no longer be exempt from the restrictions.

Sometimes political desires and conflicts can indeed be useful, especially when they serve to prevent actions from occurring which do not have the best interests of the populations at heart.

TheRedneck

Could this also be something to do with the leaked agenda not being shown by MSM, the one that basically strips all developing countries of their sovereignty, isn't giving them any kind of special deal, and integrating them in the the NWO, i ma trying to find a copy of the leaked document, but please if anyone else has is feel free.