Originally posted by danman23
reply to post by PhotonEffect
I should have said "crazy conspiracy" (in quotes).. my bad. Just look at the pdf's etc.. you will see luminescent spiral clouds.
EDIT to add: You really need to read everything at the bottom of page 29.. the links and all. I just realized it might not hit ya if you dont.
Specifically look at this PDF sgc.engin.umich.edu... page 4
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Danman- I have to applaud your efforts here. You have certainly put a lot of time and energy into researching and defending your theory. There is
without a doubt some very interesting information that you've provided in this thread that I and I'm sure many others have learned from. So thank
you for that...
With that said though I think you have to consider why your theory can't work.
First let me say that I think we can all agree that a rocket of some kind was launched on that morning, WHY? You only have to look at the pictures and
videos of this event to see that clearly, there is an exhaust plume which originated from the ground that shot into the air. This plume was directly
connected to the blue spiral and consequently the white spiral... this is solid photographic evidence of a missile/rocket
Now judging from your latest posts here, you seem to have accepted this notion that a rocket was certainly shot that day. You're a rational human
being and can clearly see from all the photographs that this is the case... to deny it would be completely ignorant and not worthy of consideration in
this discussion IMO...
Your belief however is that:
EISCAT was involved in this somehow, and that they could very well have launched a sounding rocket that day to experiment with the atmosphere. Your
arrival at this theory seems to have originated from the fact that the rocket plume was seen near Tromso where an EISCAT facility happens to be
located. There is also one in Kiruna Sweden not too far away from Tromso that has rocket launching capabilities. EISCAT is known as a facility
interested in the inner workings of our upper atmosphere and beyond, which happened to be the stage for this spiral event so why not these guys...
But a fair question to ask : What about Russia? They've admitted to a rocket launch that morning.
To take care of this problem you have insinuated that Russia must be in on this experiment with EISCAT in some way shape or form. Either by lying
about their launch to coverup the one by EISCAT or by somehow benefitting from working with EISCAT and the results of their experiments of testing
auroras or something, which really makes no sense.
WHY? One main reason is Russia has nothing to do with EISCAT- I'm sure you've seen that EISCAT is funded and operated by research institutes and
research councils of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Japan, China, the United Kingdom and Germany. (collectively, the EISCAT Associates.)
So where/how does Russia come into play here then? Are they a secret member?
Since we can't just ignore that Russia has admitted to testing a missile that day, another scenario from your stand point would then have to be- That
Russia did in fact launch a rocket that day, BUT that EISCAT did aswell- because your belief from what I gather is that there's no way we could've
seen this rocket from Tromso if it were launched from the White Sea by the Russians.
So now we have 2 rockets launched that morning, both at the exact same time, but only Russia having admitted to theirs. EISCAT, a scientific facility,
known to keep very up to date records of all their experiments, including ones involved with rocket launches,
launch March 9 2009) decided that no advanced warning needed to be made. No mention at all on their website or any others affiliated with them (see
here NISSE, REXUS
that this very exciting experiment was to take place. Seems strange
Certainly there would be mention of it somewhere, by someone. You don't launch rockets with out there being some sort of documented record of it. You
just don't...but you and others would have us all believe that they covered this one up because they don't feel like explaining themselves to the
EISCAT seems to go through alot of trouble to keep track, publicly (on their site), of the most mundane of experiments or anything to do with usage of
that facility, ...but then decides to let this one go without any word what so ever anywhere!?
Hmm- I have trouble believing that logic...
Check this out-
This document sets out the planned science activities of the EISCAT associate countries, looking 5 years into the future (1.e. 2008-2012) and using
the existing facilities....
read the top paragraph, then scroll down to the bottom of page 7 where it says "Rocket Support"
EISCAT 5 year science case for existing facilities
You'll notice in that last section there is no mention of a planned rocket launch on Dec 7th. And even if they changed some launch dates around it
seems that these launches are still very well documented...
Like the NISSE launch in March 09.
Point is, after this long damn post-- they won't cover up a launch. They can't cover up a launch. Someone somewhere near that facility would have
said something or made a report. It takes quite a bit of effort to stage a launch of this magnitude to not say anyting about it.
There would HAVE to be a record of it somewhere, especially if it's a scientific experiment that involves launching very large rockets high up into
the atmosphere... something not done very often.
But there is ZERO record of it anywhere and NO POINT in covering it up in the first place. And NO POINT for Russia's involvement with EISCAT... at
Your theory doesn't work.
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