Originally posted by JayinAR
Out of curiosity, why does everyone rag on Phage so much?
Do you guys realize he is, in my estimation, one of the best contributors to this website?

Phage is one of the best and the brightest, and detail oriented researchers here on ATS. More often than not, people who are trying to bash him are patently foolish.

danman23, you're brilliant...thank you for your hard work !!! S&F !!!

sourcesonly, your theory does seem to make a lot of sense...thanks for your post...let's see how this plays out in the upcoming months.

Phage, sorry but you've lost this one...it wasn't just a rocket...good day sir.

[edit on 14-12-2009 by polychronopolis]

So if it's HAARP, they announce the expiriment in advance, yet falsify results and don't claim anything about what was seen?
Huh? Why?
Why announce anything if it's some kind of sinister weather control?
Why announce anything at all, who the heck could know what HAARP is up to? And why detail the experiment then falsify the results, particularly something as innocious as atmospheric fireworks? Why say anything in the first place?
Maybe I'm missing something here, but this makes no sense to me!

[edit on 14-12-2009 by OldDragger]

Originally posted by OldDragger
Maybe I'm missing something here, but this makes no sense to me!

You are not missing anything here, and it doesn't make sense not only to you, but to anyone remotely familiar with Occam's razor as it applies to logic.

There is an event that it most likely associated with the observed atmospheric phenomenon. But screw that, that's not exciting enough! Let's bring in some evil HAARP, psychotic birds from the future universe affected by the LHC, or pan-dimensional beings jumping out of wormholes and urinating in upper strata of atmosphere.

So, is there a conspiracy to modify the weather to the extent to "prove" that global warming is in fact a reality? Then the world governments will have to unite to save the planet, forming a world government in the process as our nation purposely devalues its currency?

And we will sit by and do nothing?

Uh, ...I'm not seeing anything here except that apparently HAARP was operating. Was if operating before and after the event? Was this experiment performed before, or was this the first time?
Where is any proof whatsoever that HAARP was involved?

Originally posted by Freenrgy2

And we will sit by and do nothing?

Freenrgy2 don't lose your ...we're already doing something by engaging in these discussions and figuring out what's going on...we're doing what needs to be done...no worries mate...

Actually, I think this was a failed experiment or at least not at all what they were expecting. Consider the fact that Russia disclaimed at first and then after some time claimed ownership of it. That doesn’t sound like a planned move at all to me. In fact it sounds like the decision to let Russia take ownership of it was very rushed and only afterwards.

Originally posted by JayinAR
Out of curiosity, why does everyone rag on Phage so much?

I don’t think Phage would get ragged near as much if he didn’t have groupies waiting with baited breath for his proclamations, hanging on every last word of his. I’ve actually seen people posting comments that they are going to wait to see what he says before they comment. I agree that he is a good contributor… it’s his followers that are lacking the ability to think for themselves and most here, ATS being what it is, abhor that kind of groupthink. I find it abhorrent and I definitely can see why some may find it suspect. It’s not him… it’s his followers.

Originally posted by JayinAR
Out of curiosity, why does everyone rag on Phage so much?
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I don’t think Phage would get ragged near as much if he didn’t have groupies waiting with baited breath for his proclamations, hanging on every last word of his. I’ve actually seen people posting comments that they are going to wait to see what he says before they comment. I agree that he is a good contributor… it’s his followers that are lacking the ability to think for themselves and most here, ATS being what it is, abhor that kind of groupthink. I find it abhorrent and I definitely can see why some may find it suspect. It’s not him… it’s his followers.

Take note of the next time phage comments on this thread. As i think he may have backed down from this argument as he sided with the rocket theory it would be damagng to his rep if he is completely wrong about this. Especially jumping on the boat with the MSM about the 'Failed Rocket'

[edit on 14-12-2009 by GW8UK]