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TEQUILAsunrise - AKA Norway Spiral - Proof it was a scientific experiment.

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posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:09 AM
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But the spiral wasnt perfect, it had its flaws.
None of photos or the videos has high enough quality to show what it really looked like.




posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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From all pictures and vids I've seen, it looks to perfect to be a rocket.

If the spiral was made by a rocket, then it was under control.

Not spinning with a burning exhaust, leaking fuel out of a hole.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:16 AM
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Pictures is one thing, seeing it live spinning around up there is something else.
I dont see why it couldn have been spinning rocket, since the spiral itself didnt spin, just expand.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:17 AM
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Yeah, I read. All it looks like is they were using words you don't understand, and you simply misconstrued them as somehow pertaining to weaponry.

I'm not derailing anything- I'm merely pointing out how people like you are essentially making stuff up and spreading lies.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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A spinning saucer.
So easily done.
Do the math on the forces involved.
Perhaps stuck in the sideways position it couldn't get up.
I forgot, we don't know anythng about flying saucers.
My bad.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:24 AM
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Or a missile. But that's not as fun as a UFO, so I guess it can't be that.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:26 AM
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It is pretty remarkable that Jan Petter Jorgenson was able to get to the parking lot, set up and take at least 10 alleged long exposure photos of an event that allegedly lasted less than 2 minutes.

And his perspective is dead center.

www.rexfeatures.com...



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:29 AM
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How could a rocket create a circle that has such a large outside diameter unless it started very close to the photographer.
If that happened, the outside rings would be much larger.

This whte swirl is way too big, and ejecta does not act like that, ejecta would drift more in wind from the thrust itself.

This "rocket" would have had to fly in an ever tigtening perfect corkscrew to attain this effect, and we all know that's bs.

Solid Rocket=light and smoke...lots of both, but here we only have the smoke in the ionized air low to the ground.


I do agree that the railgun flash would be very fast, but a really big one might create a bit of atmosheric glow from the sheer energy. Just trying to find an answer that fits.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:33 AM
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You are only looking at one image which exaggerates the size of the spiral. There are others which show it much less dramatic.

There is no wind in space.

The spiral expands outward from the missile, not inward.

The third stage of the Bulava is liquid fueled.



[edit on 12/16/2009 by Phage]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Deny Arrogance
It is pretty remarkable that Jan Petter Jorgenson was able to get to the parking lot, set up and take at least 10 alleged long exposure photos of an event that allegedly lasted less than 2 minutes.

And his perspective is dead center.

www.rexfeatures.com...


How do you know he wasnt already to photograph something else?

But the spiral did not last more than 2 minutes. Thats a fact. Then the "black hole" came and all that remained was blueish clouds drifting north.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:45 AM
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You are only looking at one image which exaggerates the size of the spiral. There are others which show it much less dramatic.


Can you explain how this one picture made it look bigger? I still don't see how long exposure can make the image that much bigger.

These others show the same image, but seem to have been taken from further away.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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Longer exposure captures all the smoke in the given period, not just the smoke that is visible at the moment.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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I think a telephoto lens makes things look bigger.
The size of the spiral has been described as 2-3 times the size of a full moon. That's the size of the end of your thumb held at an arms' length.


[edit on 12/16/2009 by Phage]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:52 AM
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Has anybody posted photos of the event that are off axis perspective? Any cork screw like shots?

How could every photographer and videographer seemingly be at the focus of the event?



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by Gromle
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Longer exposure captures all the smoke in the given period, not just the smoke that is visible at the moment.


Right, that still means it had the size of the outer rings at one point.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:55 AM
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Yes you think. you also said you weren't an expert in photography.

I'm not either, but common sense tells me that a telelens wasn't used, because it wouldn't have captured the surroundings like that.

It also tells me that a telelens brings all objects closer in the same proportion, not just the spiral.

[edit on 16-12-2009 by Point of No Return]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return

Originally posted by Gromle
reply to post by Point of No Return
 


Longer exposure captures all the smoke in the given period, not just the smoke that is visible at the moment.


Right, that still means it had the size of the outer rings at one point.


Yeah, but that was not visible to the human eye. Longer exposure will capture details we can not see. So a faint smokering that size is not improbable.

By the way, where are those taken from?

[edit on 16-12-2009 by Gromle]



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:58 AM
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That's a good point.
It was observed over a very wide area of the northern coastal area of Norway. Since all the images have pretty much the same perspective, it indicates that it was quite distant from all of them.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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BS, it looked exactly the same on other pics, only bigger.

Long exposure didn't make it bigger.



posted on Dec, 16 2009 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by Gromle
 


BS, it looked exactly the same on other pics, only bigger.

Long exposure didn't make it bigger.


Then it is photoshopped, cause it wasnt that big.
Picture nr 5 in the following link is the best I've seen that describes what it really looked like.
www.nordlys.no...



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