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Originally posted by Detailed Perfection
The Constitution gives us Freedom OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion.
America is a Christian Nation and as such, we celebrate Christmas.
Originally posted by awake_awoke
As someone who has intensively studied colonial history throughout my collegiate career I can certainly say than whenever I hear a Tea-Party member speak about what is and isn't American, and what our founding fathers intended, I can only put my face in my hands.
These people have absolutely no understanding of 17th and 18th century European history, let alone early American.
In fact, they are usually the first ones to condemn Freemasonry, with little understanding that everything we have in America comes from that practice.
Our founding fathers believed first the foremost that separation from tyranny, religious oppression, and fanaticism was the only way to find and uphold enlightenment.
At the cornerstone of their creed was the separation of church and state.
Thats America. Sorry.
Originally posted by AshleyD
Absolutely no carols or any Christmas/holiday festivities of any kind. No Christmas break. School still in session. No Christmas/holiday decor or music.
Only students of Christian families get excused absences like any other holiday with religious origins.
Originally posted by awake_awoke
reply to post by sdcigarpig
Well the Pledge is a completely different story because we stuck that in there during McCarthyism to prove we're not communist.
Listen I am like the Clark W. Griswold of Christmas. I love Christmas. It is my favorite holiday in the world. Cases of Champagne, tons and tons of food, family, friends, parties, caroling, traditions. This is the most important time of year to me. I know its a Pagan holiday. Jesus Christ was not born on the 25th of December. We all know this.
Making carols MANDATORY in public schools is just so transparent coming from these right-leaning characters who are the same to cry out for prayer in public schools and "intelligent design" to be taught in science classes, etc etc.
Its not because they love Jingle Bell Rock.....Its because they keep trying to get their foot in the door to make THEIR beliefs superior because again they truly, truly believe America is supposed to be Christian and nothing else.
I personally hope every child, if they'd like to, gets to do a rousing rendition of Frosty the Snowman. I hope they all do Jingle Bells with the little bells tied on to their hands (I loved that).
These things however are really not mandatory, nor should they be, when it comes to publicly funded education. Another stupid move that shows these people's real agenda under their facade of "patriotism" and "freedom".
Originally posted by sdcigarpig
But back to the topic, there should not be such a furor about christmas carols during the time of the season, and if it serves to enrich the lives of children, then why is it wrong? And yet as I read and think, giving to the common sense of the matter, if you are going to remove such from schools, what about libraries? They are up kept by the state, yet most will have sections dedicated to different religions, will those be next, or forbidden to all because they are not important? What about history, shall those be omitted from texts, such as the invention of the printing press and the first printed book?
Originally posted by Lillydale