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posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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I n my town there was recent out rage over a female pedophile who only got community service. People were calling for a recall of the D.A. and everything. Woman want equality, just not in the punishment part.




posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by andy1033

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Women aren't the predators.


What rubbish, oh yep i forgot females, do not sexually haress males at work. Thats a fairy tale, lol.


Why did you make it appear as though I typed that?

I dont know if its a mistake but I quoted somebody else, yet in your post it looks like I said it. Please remove my name from it, and replace it with Unity's name, as they are the person that said it



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 05:54 PM
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Oh so women can abuse children and talk about it?
They should all be thrown in a cell with no windows.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by MikeNice81
 


So true, no one who sexually abuses children is blameless or has a really good reason. That said, people who were abused do end up abusing themselves, no bull, something like 90% of the time. This is self defeating behavior (actually a self-discipline problem) that erodes the fabric of our society, divides and weakens families and entire communities.
Women are as capable of sexual predatory aggression but again statistics show this, though not unheard of, is a late breaking trend it is far and away a male dominated field.
I can easily equate a man with an overwhelming libido to a wolf. A woman so inclined I think can be re-trained to act differently. It is not inherent in her nature, she is more like a very bad dog.


I still call BS on this. The difference is that for centuries it has been a sign of honor for a teenage man to bed an older woman. I also think that in large part women that engage in this activity look at it more as an act of love.

Women generally equate love and sex in a way that men don't. I believe this is proven in some way by listening to the women that have been interviewed on main stream media shows. Very often we hear these teachers and such saying, "I was in love", or that the kid was so special and brilliant. I think one of the reasons female "predators" don't fit the psychological profile is because they come at it from another angle. They aren't acting out of lust. They usually act out of a misplaced sense of loving or nurturing. So, of course the same atributes that apply to a truly predatory person won't apply to them. The psychology that triggers the event is completely different.

I think that when you look at all of the component predictors most males don't feel abused by these encounters. I am not condoning it and I am not saying that all women aren't predatory. What I'm saying is, by approaching these women the same way we do men, we are failing to understand what precipitates the encounters and the effects on all involved.

All of that said I do believe that most abusers were abused in their youth. Pain seeks release. By refusing to acknowledge the source, and dealing, people force it to vent. Unfortunately this leads to cyclical abuse, self-destruction, and much more.

I just thought of a great mainstream example that explains the differences in the type of encounters. Garth Brooks' has a song titled "That Summer."
Garth Brooks That Summer Lyrics

The idea that older woman and teenage boys can share loving relationships is also easily noted in Harold and Maude. A movie originaly released in 1971.

Again I am not condoning illegal relationships. What I am saying is that culture has traditionally looked upon these relationships differently. That is why I think so few women have been thought of as "predators" or "abusers."

(edit to fix glaring typos and wrong words)

[edit on 13-12-2009 by MikeNice81]



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 06:05 PM
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Let an age of ignorance be behind us.
Again, numbers don't lie. Look at the statistics.
What you speak of is such a small minority as to be the exception rather than the rule. It appears you are vocally defending people who prey on children. Perhaps this is unintentional as you are making some valid points, but this perverse undertone is coming through loud and clear. You may have persuaded yourself to believe differently but there is no justification for any child molestation from men or women. Period. End of story.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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If you think that sites bad, then don't go to 4chan or 12chan.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 07:31 PM
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Let me clarify myself. What I am saying is this: I believe that a larger number of women are engaging in sexual relationships with minors than we previously realized. I believe it has gone unrealized for so long for multiple reason.

The first reason is because of the psychology that drives women in to these relationships. The triggers and thought processes seem to be very different than those of there male counter parts. There for the standard test don't reveal these women as easily.

Kind of like an FBI agent once said, "We don't know how many women serial killers are out there; we just assume it must be a man." The notion is that women don't do this and over time the psychological studies and statistics start to show it is the truth. Eventually it becomes a case of circular logic. The next generation starts saying, "Women don't do this; See we have these studies and statistics to prove it." Yet they don't take in to account that those studies and statistics are based on previous cultural assumptions. (Does this clear things up or make it about as clear as mud?)

The second reason I believe it has largely been ignored is the way our culture has traditionally looked at these relationships. I was trying to back up my argument that society previously looked at these relationships in a different light. I was not trying to defend them.

I believe people that sleep with minors and break the law should usually go to jail. (An 18 year-old with a 16 year-old girlfriend is different and should be judged on a per case basis.) I believe that any adult that forces sexual relations on a minor should recieve jail time and some form of corporal punishment. Anyone that rapes or molests a pre teen... Let me just say there is a special place in hell for them.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 07:41 PM
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Wow there are some major perverts on ATS that's for sure.

Regardless of how you feel about teenage sex it is emotionally UNHEALTHY for teenage girls to be sleeping with adults. I mean my god...........and we wonder why women are so screwed up emotionally by the time they become adults. The subtle emotional impact that goes along with teenage sex is more pronounced than most here and in society want to admit.

Yes we in America are all a bunch of puritanical, conservative prudes? HAHA! Look at the sexualization that's happening all over the world INCLUDING EUROPE! There are a lot of things human beings did 100 years ago. That doesn't mean they were healthy. Europe's STD rates are sky rocketing among other social ills of promiscuous teenage sexuality.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 07:44 PM
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Blah blah blah..........yes we realize how evil, animalistic, and perverse human beings are. That's why MOST OF humanity is trying to EVOLVE. It's not 2000 years ago. We've learned more than ever about human behavior, science, sociology, disease, etc. Maybe you should try it sometime.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 07:44 PM
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after learning about the existence of NAMBLA, and other similar organizations or groups that are federally protected under the constitution and defended by the ACLU, I find it hard to believe anyone would have a hard time believing something like this exists.

Sickos are not regulated to one specific sex or race or age. There are predators in all shapes, colors, sizes, and sexualities and everyone should just get used to it. That is the sad reality of the evolution of this country but we must accept that our laws support the existence of all types of hate, crime, and predator factions.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 07:50 PM
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In a psychological way it is good people are let to express their hidden desires. It can be dangerous to suppress one's feelings and desires. All they are doing is talking among themselves, I see no harm in that. It's cool.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by andy1033


Its about time that females where treated to the same scrutiny than males. I cannot believe sites are allowed to have boards talking about sex with kids, even if they are females doing this.

Any views on this, and just shows there is no real difference between males and females on this issue, of having sex with kids.

Thoughts....




EXACTLY. It has gotten to the lop-sided point that anytime a guy even shows interest in a kid (Such as being friends with a child), they have to automatically feel self-conscious as to how such a relationship is perceived, let alone how some people might actually think of them in regards to such. I for one am friends with some kids in my neighborhood who are half my own age, and they like to call me outside to toss the football around, or to talk about sports, cars, etc. I look out for them as well, and make sure that no one bullies them. I am used to being cool to younger kids, because growing up I had friends who were older than me as well, and they always looked out for me too. I also have younger Cousins, and my sister used to babysit.

On the other hand, it seems that we rarely hear about women being scrutinized for child abuse, domestic violence issues, or these deviant sexual sort of twisted mind sets which we witness in this story. I am sick of having to walk around so self-conscious of my own actions as an innocent guy, when we obviously have just as many women out there who are quite the opposite indeed.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 08:10 PM
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I have to admit, that i have been a man eater in the past.. I was soo insecure in myself and looks that i had to prove to myself that i was attractive.. It was risky behaviour.. Married men were my meat.. And being in the army at the time i had access to some hot soldiers too... However after MUCH heartache i finally dealt with my own insecurities.. A broken home makes broken kids...
I blame feminism, because we as women had defined roles, just like the men.... And those roles suited our genders.. Breaking our roles has left us exhausted and our men emasculated, and then we have the gaul to complain when we are earning more than our man and loose respect for him.. We cant have it both ways.. We must allow our men to be men.. Just like we like em lol.... maybe if we had kept our roles then our western society, families, wouldnt be sooo fragmented and destroyed.. The hand the rocks the cradle rules the world.. THAT is where we gave away our power.... Not saying we shouldnt leave abusive men... But then again. it takes a REAL woman to handle a REAL man, but both exist now as a remanant... Mostly black sisters lol....

I believe we all know right from wrong, and the fact that women are abusing kids.... Mannnn... We as nurturers and givers of life doing these vile acts, is proof positive that we as a species are NOT evolving but devolving.... The fact that a fellow woman could do that well..... Social constructs aside.... It is sick and a betrayal... And society is sick....

[edit on 083131p://f13Sunday by Selahobed]



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99

Originally posted by Miraj

Originally posted by Unity_99
Absolute drivel. Women aren't the predators. When they are abused as children they usually end up being abused. These are the stats based on repeatable studies. This would imply a group of m'kultra type agents or cult group activities. And those are real, coming out of a patriarchal sexually abusive nwo/illumaniti/skull and cross bone/cia thing.



Yeah, that's great. Lets wash criminals of all responsibility because they were abused.

Why not make this a legal policy; "Don't blame the assaulter, they did it because it happened to them!" And see how that works out.


I'm saying its BS, and a set up from the dark side. The CIA and the black ops and the cults they've formed, to create this. This is from their side, not the human race. They've already done stats and studies on us, and women arent the predators, only like less than one percent would fit into that profile, who have been abused. They tend to partner with those who continue to abuse them instead.

[edit on 13-12-2009 by Unity_99]


The only reason is those women aren't predators (even though they are) is because legal system is just now starting to prosecute. It used to be that women were considered lesser, and more innocent.. Therefore needed help, and hence they couldn't commit a crime like rape. And hell, how often did people get caught for child molestation back in the day?

You can blame the dark side all you want my friend, but sooner or later. ANd probably sooner, you'll realize that the world is just a messed up place. And that women can just as well molest little kids too, but people just turn a blind eye.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by Unity_99
Absolute drivel. Women aren't the predators. When they are abused as children they usually end up being abused. These are the stats based on repeatable studies. This would imply a group of m'kultra type agents or cult group activities. And those are real, coming out of a patriarchal sexually abusive nwo/illumaniti/skull and cross bone/cia thing.


Where the hell did you get that idea? Thats an absolutely ignorant statement, but I guess considering your posts on other topics similar to this, I shouldnt expect too much.

Maybe if for once you did a little bit of research before making incorrect statements you wouldnt look so stupid.

....

I doubt you will retract your statement, but thats fine by me, you just continue to look ignorant....




To anyone concerned, here is OzWeatherman's ACTUAL quote (In response to Unity_99), which was mis-quoted by a certain someone on page 2 (I am not certain if it was intentional or not).



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by December_Rain
In a psychological way it is good people are let to express their hidden desires. It can be dangerous to suppress one's feelings and desires. All they are doing is talking among themselves, I see no harm in that. It's cool.


True true

But if that conversation turns into intent, or those people are caught with child pornography, then it becomes an law breaking issue. Even though they are talking about it, I still do no think that makes it ok just for the record



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
Absolute drivel. Women aren't the predators. When they are abused as children they usually end up being abused. These are the stats based on repeatable studies. This would imply a group of m'kultra type agents or cult group activities. And those are real, coming out of a patriarchal sexually abusive nwo/illumaniti/skull and cross bone/cia thing.


Of course, women are ALWAYS the victims NEVER the PERPS.

LMFAOPIMP!!!!!!!



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 10:36 PM
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I wasn't going to post this, but I'll keep it short and not say how I feel..just
report this personal fact.

I was introduced to sex as a 7 year old boy by a female adult who was my
babysitter.

-cwm



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
This has been going on for years.. but I agree.. there are just as many women pedophiles as men.

The trouble is as sick as it is, as long as they say it's fantasy they can get away with it until they act on it. I bet those sites are being monitored for communication between adults and kids.

We should change the laws to make those sites illegal.

See, I disagree with you there.

If we make these sites illegal just because we don't like the stories that they have, what's to stop with making other stories illegal.

I'm sorry, but until they do something illegal, it's free speech.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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I agree with you on all those points - then we are pretty much are on the same page.




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