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Aliens...what part did they play in Christianity...The Immaculate Deception

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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 11:42 PM
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A battle has been raging on this planet for thousands of years. The battle for control of the minds and wills of humanity. Many have been taught that it is a battle between God's angels and Satan's demons. The truth of the matter is something much more insidious.

The Immaculate Conception of Mary is a good example of aliens interacting with the free will of humans...starting yet another new slave religion.









www.luciferianliberationfront.org...

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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 11:54 PM
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Here is yet another picture showing a UFO beaming light down on the alien hybrid Jesus during his baptism...

So, Christians...you are worshiping an alien god. That wants to enslave you within the bounds of religious dogma.





posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:23 AM
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The Tower of Babel
The Slaves Threaten the Master
War has been declared on mankind by alien life forms which pretend to be "GOD." Discover why we have been kept busy fighting each other while these aliens feast on our misery.

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As we discussed in The Immaculate Deception, mankind has been genetically altered by an extraterrestrial race to serve as slaves. The original genetic engineers responsible for our mutation have long since departed, leaving in their wake another group of extraterrestrials which have been called "Watchers." They claim to be merely observing our species but the evidence reveals a much more sinister plan.

These watchers are merely the latest in a line of manipulating species which have interfered with the natural evolution of humanity. The original custodians of the human race, the Elohim, set the stage for mankind's history of manipulation.





www.luciferianliberationfront.org...

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[edit on 12-12-2009 by Hemlocks]



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:10 AM
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Dear Hemlocks

I am glad you said it and not me.

The fact is that there are so many parts of the bible that if it where being written today would be put down to ET.

The fact is the virgin birth comes down to the interpretation of on Greek word meaning young girl or if you like virgin. I believe it is the same in German.

The council of Nicaea in 325AD decided that this word meant Virgin but was most likely meant as young girl. Well it is simply that a virgin birth brings in more crowds.

One point would be that do we really need to upset what few Christians there are left. They will be gone soon enough anyway, and I think that in general that will not be a good thing over all. Some at least do, do so very good work.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:10 AM
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So I looked over the sites that the links head too, and after pondering this for about a half hour... Is that a joke site? Ala Lamuel? like seriously Im very curious about whether its legit or not



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:28 AM
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to me the story has been about a lesbian who got pregnant / pregnancy out of marrige.

but who know, at least the "alien" part about his fathers identity is sealed



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 07:44 AM
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The information the site gives is true. Now, as to if the organization is a legit group I have no idea. It might of been made by an individual or group of like minded persons.

Still, good information...



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 07:58 AM
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Why on earth would a so called "superior race" want to control the hearts and minds of us lowly humans, stuck on this piece of dust flying through space??? What could we ever offer them?
If they are sooo technologicaly advanced, they wouldn't need an army of slaves, they would just press a button then "hey presto", job done.... Also if they are sooo far ahead from us in terms of cultural development; slavery/worship would be an abomination to them.. Why would they want to manipulate us for our "hearts and souls?" What would they possilbly get out of it???

Could it make more sense that they ARE actually fallen angels, and there is a war to take from G-d the apple of His eye.....Us??

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posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by MAC269
One point would be that do we really need to upset what few Christians there are left. They will be gone soon enough anyway, and I think that in general that will not be a good thing over all. Some at least do, do so very good work.


Well, MAC, Where are us Christains going? The Rapture? A lucifarian deception if there ever was one.

Here's a NEWS FLASH MAC.

Christains, along with the remaining 1/3 of the Population of this globe that come through the Armageddon/End Times Events, go where? THEY STAY HERE. They are given the same chance Adam, and Eve, and Noah, and Lot and David and so on......., got when Christ was sacraficed and took the time to teach those who had died since the Begining, the chance to get to Heaven.

The Only difference this time, is we will have a 1000 years of teaching. Not just three days.

And judging from the Religous Commentaries which state one lie upon another, it may well take a 1000 years to debrief the stupidity of the sheep, and the manipulations of Satan, to twist the truth to suit his needs.

Ciao

Shane



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 10:09 AM
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I'm not a christian, but I am a huge fan of Jesus, so I'll respond.

I'll start with the tower of babel, as it kind of ties into Jesus and his purpose/reason.

The only reason the people on the planet were united as the tower of babel is because they shared 1 language, 1 culture and so forth. The tower of babel gave them some kind of insight into the universe, to travel in it and so forth.

The tower of babel is destroyed and man's language is confused to bring out the inevitable, and also the reason why man is removed from the garden in the first place.

If men had been allowed out into the universe, they would have warred and tried to enslave any races they came across.

Proof?

Proof is what happened on earth once the languages were confused. Men were no longer united under the same culture, language and so forth. As such, they started to see differences between the different cultures etc. And as a result, the cultures then started to war and enslave each other.

Thus, the tower of babel was done to protect the rest of the universe, just as man was removed from the garden to protect the tree of life.

If the only way men can come to peace is to once again have a 1 world government/culture and so forth, then it would be done again. Because the problem itself wasn't dealt with, only avoided.

Now with Jesus. I do not believe Mary was a virgin, and I don't really think that is what was meant by "Jesus being born of a virgin". If you go into the OT, then the actual translation is not "virgin", but "young woman". Born of a young woman.



John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.


But there are 2 births. 1 is to be born of biological parents(flesh), and the other is the birth of the spirit. I personally think what is supposed to be there is that Jesus is born of spirit, which means born of the father. Souls are born of the father etc. And thus, the virgin is god/father, of which there is no equal too etc. Was a virgin then, still the virgin now.

But I obviously differ from Christians on that. I'm a bit more Jewish on that topic.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Hemlocks
The information the site gives is true.


Well, that's quite a statement. The information is skewed. It has a resemblance of truth, which is buried under deceptions, misunderstandings, and mistruths.


The Creation
The Bible says that in the "beginning" God created the heaven and the earth. (Genesis 1:1) Here's the story they don't tell you:

www.luciferianliberationfront.org...

Now it is true to say, there is a lot of expressing a point of view, but their is little evidence offered in respects to what "they don't tell you".


Before anything existed there was this guy we'll call God who had existed for all of the eternity before anything existed doing nothing and thinking nothing, then he had a thought; the first "causeless cause" (the very first thing which had ever happened without something causing it to happen...confused yet?) What was this thought? Probably, "This sucks, I'm bored."...........


This is just the example of indepth study and understanding offered to expose Bible stories.

Well before anything existed there was GOD, and in the Begining, he created the Heavens and the Earth. Seems like he was quite busy, in the begining.

Doing nothing eh?
Sitting dazed and confused eh?

The balance of the text, takes and manipulates segments of scripture rather than review the text directly. There is much heresay and guessing occuring, but little education on the truth is offered. But that is Satan's m.o., isn't it?

No, there is really nothing to be gained in the way of Original Thought or Enlightenment. Just babel and confusion, with specific intent.

Ciao

Shane









[edit on 12-12-2009 by Shane]



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 09:00 PM
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Dear Shane

From Shane “Well, MAC, Where are us Christains going? The Rapture? A lucifarian deception if there ever was one.”

Well as I live in a religious community I do have some insight on this. There are no new young priest in the first world. There are plenty in the Third world but in the main they are homosexual or gangsters so they really are not going to have a great future in the church. In fact this week we have had head bods from the Vatican inspecting the books. It just a matter of time and they will be gone, the gangster priests that is.

As for the money grabbing evangelist gangsters that you have in the US on TV I really don’t see them lasting a lot longer before even the US citizens see through them.

All this with pedophile priests in Ireland and what sort of future for Christianity do you see.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by MAC269
.........what sort of future for Christianity do you see.


Quite a glorious one actually, but that's another post.

As for your narrative on the "Church" and examples of depravity ongoing within the various sects and cults which claim Christianity, it is no surprise and frankly expected.

Being a Christain, has little to do with Church, and the Doctrines, Dogmas and Theologies MAN has imposed over and above the word of GOD. It's ones relationship with GOD and his Son that is the priority, so to suggest Christains are in a state of demise or disappearing maybe just due to the preception you have that associate Christainity to a sect or cult.

We likely would be better off with NO CHRUCH. Just the Letter GOD has for us, and a simple Concordance to allow one to study themselves or with associates and/or family. But hey, that would mean the flock would be actually reading the Bible. This of course is ANTI-Church, but if they do not preach GOD's Word, what good are they. Simple organizations which claim tax free status, and offer nothing but some songs, an offering plate, and a message, that bears little resemblance to the 2 or 3 lines of scripture used in the 30 minutes leading upto close of ceremonies.

Now, despite seemingly being off topic, I am certain, this is well within the realm of this post.

The Church, with "Baby Steps" has been led astray by those whom seemingly know better. Some churches now have Homosexuals IN the pulpits. Most Church congregations have no clue what/who a Cainite is and what they have/are doing. A majority of Chruches teach and preach a socialist dogma, which is politically skewed not to offend sinners.

Where does this crap come from?

Satan and the Fallen, working with the families theyve held sway over for the last 6000 to 8000 years, to orchestrate and manipulate behind the scenes, to have everything so warm and fuzzy it means little anylonger.

Sorry, but GOD never seemed to concerned with being politically correct, and I am certain, HE will not suddenly alter HIS views and perceptions because some satanically directed Church (Pick the sect/cult) says GOD's Word doesn't apply anylonger.

I am going to love those 1000 years in the Millenium Kingdom. It will give me such pleasure watching, and hopefully teaching, those who fell prey to these scams. Of course, I will also enjoy discussing things with Enoch. I'd love to spend 365 years learning what he learned.

Still confused how the Aliens are involved.

They are Satan and the Fallen!

Ciao

Shane

P.S. There of course are two distinct groups of Aliens, in my outlook, if one considers the Eholim/Angels and GOD as Alien. Certainly they could be considered such, but I would tend to apply Alien to the enitites which are TODAY doing again, exactly what they did IN THE DAYS of Noah. Interbreeding with the daughters of MAN.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 12:42 PM
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Your already judging most christians saying that we are believing in a alien race as worshippers . Do you have proof other than photos?



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Hemlocks
The Immaculate Conception of Mary is a good example of aliens interacting with the free will of humans...starting yet another new slave religion.


Hmmm,
have you confused the Immaculate Conception with the Virgin Birth?

They are different things, but often confused.


The Immaculate Conception was Anne conceiving Mary.
The Virgin Birth was Mary birthing Jesus.

Be careful not to mix up the two different events.


K.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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Gday,


Originally posted by MAC269
The council of Nicaea in 325AD decided that this word meant Virgin ...


No they didn't.

The word 'virgin' was (wrongly) in use way before the CoN.

The Council of Nicea did NOT make any decisions about this, or the books of the Bible.


K.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 03:49 PM
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Gday,


Originally posted by badmedia
The only reason the people on the planet were united as the tower of babel is because they shared 1 language, 1 culture and so forth. The tower of babel gave them some kind of insight into the universe, to travel in it and so forth.

...

Proof?

Proof is what happened on earth once the languages were confused. Men were no longer united under the same culture, language and so forth. As such, they started to see differences between the different cultures etc. And as a result, the cultures then started to war and enslave each other.


But that never happened.
Mankind was never united under one culture and language.
Never.

It's just an ancient myth, long since disproved.


K.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 04:02 PM
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This thread is FAIL. The Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with aliens or virgin birth. LEARN and know EXACTLY what it is you're trying to refute BEFORE you try to refute it.

en.wikipedia.org...

www.newadvent.org...

[edit on 13-12-2009 by EMPIRE]



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Hemlocks
A battle has been raging on this planet for thousands of years. The battle for control of the minds and wills of humanity. Many have been taught that it is a battle between God's angels and Satan's demons. The truth of the matter is something much more insidious.

The Immaculate Conception of Mary is a good example of aliens interacting with the free will of humans...starting yet another new slave religion.
[edit on 11-12-2009 by Hemlocks]


I wish my imagination was half as active as yours
I would devise a story so great that suckers like you would be handing me your money!



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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One of rational thought cannot deny that the scenario in the OP's post is much more reasonable to accept than the belief of talking snakes, donkeys and bushes. I accept neither view, but to those so quickly to discredit a possibility, while embracing talking plants and animals really is disturbing.



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