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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 12:16 AM
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Report: Blackwater Guards Linked To CIA Raids


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By PAMELA HESS, Associated Press Writer Pamela Hess, Associated Press Writer – 39 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Private security guards working for Blackwater USA participated in clandestine CIA raids against suspected insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan, The New York Times reported Thursday.

Blackwater's role points to a much deeper connection between the company and the spy agency than has been previously disclosed and raises concerns over the legalities of involving contractors in the most...
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Blackwater Now in The 'Private Intelligence' Business: Scahill

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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 12:16 AM
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Well, Blackwater, excuse me, Xe, is at it again.

Up to their proverbial armpits in the swamps of war.

Blackwater/Xe Rides Again in Pakistan & Afghanistan - Rachel Maddow


So, instead of our soldiers being over there, these P.M.C.'s, that's "Private Military Contractors", are performing military, intelligence/counter-intelligence, and any other defined role that the Department of Defense and the Pentagon decides.

Jeremy Scahill threatend by ADM Mullen's Office over Blackwater's Secret War in Pakistan


Blackwater (Xe): Killing their critics


news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 12:25 AM
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This is Jeremy Scahill's book.



Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army [Revised and Updated]


Amazon Review :

Scahill's liberal horror story is about the company that has deployed many of the private contractors who have assisted the U.S. military in Iraq and been responsible for more than its share of death and disorder.

Scahill, a regular contributor to the Nation, amps up the scare language in his study of both Blackwater and the wealthy, ultra-conservative Prince family that founded the company, but luckily, Weiner does not.

With his booming baritone reined tightly in check, Weiner coolly and calmly delivers the bad news.

The parade of scaremongering may grow wearying, but Weiner maintains his composure throughout, offsetting Scahill (to a degree) by virtue of his unyielding temperateness.

Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc.

All rights reserved.


CIA Blackwater Op Infiltrated Ron Paul Campaign


I have not read this book but it's on my list.

Master of War: Blackwater USA's Erik Prince and the Business of War


Publishers Weekly : Amazon Review :

CNN executive producer Simons balances private and public accounts of Erik Prince, founder and owner of the country's most notorious private military contractor.

In this often glowing, mildly critical portrait, Prince is depicted as a fierce individualist, visionary entrepreneur and patriot, an upstanding guy's guy, albeit born into enormous privilege, right-wing values and Beltway ties.

A determined overachiever, Prince trained as a navy SEAL until his father's death led him to an enterprising idea to provide the training facilities SEALs needed.

Certain contradictions ensue: Prince is known to be deeply religious, so his affair while his first wife is dying of cancer surprised many friends.

Likewise, Prince's free market faith denigrates government involvement in business, but his Blackwater project only survived by means of hefty government contracts.

Simons's premise—that all questions arising from Blackwater's relevance go back to one man—justifies emphasis on the personal, but the book is most instructive when straying to include Dick Cheney's impact on Pentagon outsourcing or General Sanchez's frustration over boundary confusion in Iraq between U.S. soldiers and the State Department's veritable private army.

(July)

Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc.

All rights reserved.


Ron Paul : Life Changing Speech!




The Bin Ladens: An Arabian Family in the American Century


Publishers Weekly : Amazon Review :

The bin Ladens are famous for spawning the world's foremost terrorist and building one of the Middle East's foremost corporate dynasties.

Pulitzer Prize–winner Coll (Ghost Wars) delivers a sprawling history of the multifaceted clan, paying special attention to its two most emblematic members.

Patriarch Mohamed's eldest son, Salem, was a caricature of the self-indulgent plutocrat: a flamboyant jet-setter dependent on the Saudi monarchy, obsessed with all things motorized (he died crashing his plane after a day's joy-riding atop motorcycle and dune-buggy) and forever tormenting his entourage with off-key karaoke.

Coll presents quite a contrast with an unusually nuanced profile of Salem's half-brother Osama, a shy, austere, devout man who nonetheless shares Salem's egomania.

Other bin Ladens crowd Coll's narrative with the eye-glazing details of their murky business deals, messy divorces and ill-advised perfume lines and pop CDs.

Beneath the clutter one discerns an engrossing portrait of a family torn between tradition and modernity, conformism and self-actualization, and desperately in search of its soul.

(April 1)





Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001


Amazon Review :

Steve Coll's Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001 offers revealing details of the CIA's involvement in the evolution of the

Taliban and Al Qaeda in the years before the September 11 attacks. From the beginning, Coll shows how the CIA's on-again, off-again engagement with Afghanistan after the end of the Soviet war left officials at Langley with inadequate resources and intelligence to appreciate the emerging power of the Taliban.

He also demonstrates how Afghanistan became a deadly playing field for international politics where Soviet, Pakistani, and U.S. agents armed and trained a succession of warring factions.

At the same time, the book, though opinionated, is not solely a critique of the agency. Coll balances accounts of CIA failures with the success stories, like the capture of Mir Amal Kasi.

Coll, managing editor for the Washington Post, covered Afghanistan from 1989 to 1992.

He demonstrates unprecedented access to records of White House meetings and to formerly classified material, and his command of Saudi, Pakistani, and Afghani politics is impressive.

He also provides a seeming insider's perspective on personalities like George Tenet, William Casey, and anti-terrorism czar, Richard Clarke ("who seemed to wield enormous power precisely because hardly anyone knew who he was or what exactly he did for a living").

Coll manages to weave his research into a narrative that sometimes has the feel of a Tom Clancy novel yet never crosses into excess. While comprehensive, Coll's book may be hard going for those looking for a direct account of the events leading to the 9-11 attacks.

The CIA's 1998 engagement with bin Laden as a target for capture begins a full two-thirds of the way into Ghost Wars, only after a lengthy march through developments during the Carter, Reagan, and early Clinton Presidencies.

But this is not a critique of Coll's efforts; just a warning that some stamina is required to keep up.

Ghost Wars is a complex study of intelligence operations and an invaluable resource for those seeking a nuanced understanding of how a small band of extremists rose to inflict incalculable damage on American soil.

--Patrick O'Kelley


Descent into Chaos: The U.S. and the Disaster in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Central Asia


Publishers Weekly : Amazon Review :

Starred Review.

Long overshadowed by the Iraq War, the ongoing turmoil in Afghanistan and Central Asia finally receives a searching retrospective as Rashid (Taliban) surveys the region to reveal a thicket of ominous threats and lost opportunities—in Pakistan, a rickety dictatorship colludes with militants, and Afghanistan's weak government is besieged by warlords, an exploding drug economy and a powerful Taliban insurgency.

The author blames the unwillingness of American policymakers to shoulder the burden of nation building. According to Rashid, the U.S. invaded Afghanistan and subsequently refused to commit the forces and money needed to rebuild it; instead the U.S. government made corrupt alliances with warlords to impose a superficial calm, while continuing to ignore the Pakistani government's support of the Taliban and the other Islamic extremists who have virtually taken over Pakistan's western provinces.

With his unparalleled access to sources—I constantly berated [Afghan President] Karzai for his failure to understand the usefulness of political parties—Rashid is an authoritative guide to the region's politics and his is an insightful, at times explosive, indictment of the U.S. government's hand in the region's degeneration.

(June)


Conversations with History: Steve Coll


This all stems from Operation Cyclone.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Operation Cyclone

Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency program to arm the Afghan mujahideen during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, 1979 to 1989.

Operation Cyclone was one of the longest and most expensive covert CIA operations ever undertaken; funding began with $20–30 million per year in 1980 and rose to $630 million per year in 1987.


Some of you saw bits and pieces through the smoke and mirrors in Charlie Wilson's War.

Charlie Wilson's War


Former Congressman Charlie Wilson actually made a difference during the Cold War, and the politician's around him screwed it up.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Charlie Wilson

Charles Nesbitt Wilson (born June 1, 1933), is a former United States naval officer and former 12-term Democratic United States Representative from the 2nd congressional district in Texas.

He is best known for leading Congress into supporting Operation Cyclone, the largest-ever CIA covert operation, which supplied the Afghan Mujahideen during the Soviet war in Afghanistan.

His behind-the-scenes campaign was the subject of the non-fiction book Charlie Wilson's War and a subsequent film adaptation.




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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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Blackwater/Xe is a CIA front company just like Air America was during the vietnam war.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.metafilter.com...

Its called deniability,
The CIA can use blackwater to do the dirty work and tell congress that they know nothing.

In a couple years you will find that a lot of the ex special forces people that were working for Blackwater have there time with Blackwater credited to there military retirement just like any ex military CIA blackops people.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 12:48 AM
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More than likely, you are correct.

I understand deniability 100%.

Just because you can do something, does not mean you should.

Taliban Build Multi-Million Dollar Insurgent Operation, Complicating U.S. Efforts



Quote from : Taliban Build Multi-Million Dollar Insurgent Operation, Complicating U.S. Efforts


The irony is thick in the air for me because I was just discussing this topic last night in the Blackwater thread supplied below how if the mercenaries are sent over to Iraq, Afghanistan, and wherever else, why are we not trying to go after the Asian Golden Triangle, or the Middle Eastern Golden Crescent, and the drug smuggling, and as well the human trafficking because these are the sources for a lot of dirty money being made.

Like my friend, TheMythLives has been trying to make ATS aware of the problem of missing children and missing adults here at Missing Persons- Help Find Us, this is one mission ATS'ers should care very dearly about, if any real conspiracy were to be solved by us conspiracy theorists, it should be this one.

Shouldn't it?

These are the most important of conspiracies because people actually go missing, drugs are linked to it, and there is no one fighting this fight for those adults and children.


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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 01:10 AM
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An interesting video on Blackwater.

It's an hour plus in length but well worth it.

Jeremy Scahill spoke about a month ago during this video.

Privatizing US Military: Blackwater, Xe, Triple Canopy, etc


I was laughing hard at this spoof of Erik Prince in this YouTube video.

Blackwater's Erik Prince On The CIA Assassination Program


Blackwater Dumping Tarnished Brand Name



Quote from : Xe (Company) : Greystone Limited

A private security service, Greystone is registered in Barbados, and employs third country nationals for offshore security work through its affiliate Satelles Solutions, Inc.

Their web site advertises their ability to provide "personnel from the best militaries throughout the world" for worldwide deployment.

Tasks can be from very small scale up major operations to "facilitate large scale stability operations requiring large numbers of people to assist in securing a region".

Greystone had planned to open a training facility on the grounds of the Subic Bay U.S. Naval Base, but those plans were later abandoned.


I think it's about time for another of my ultimate threads...

...and I already have the perfect name...




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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 01:58 AM
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Blackwater (Xe to those insiders who know, isn't the same as BW) started out as a legit security company however one has to look at Eric Prince's motives as well those of his former partner when Blackwater was no more than a dream. I believe it has turned out to become an arm (unacknowledged one that is) of not only the CIA but the DIA and others. I have seen BW personnel in the company of known agency personnel in not just the Middle East but in Europe, Balkans and other parts of the world. This is no secret at all.

It wouldn't suprise me in the least if this were true, as a matter of fact I'd react to it no more or less than turning on the tv to watch the news. It really isn't a surprise at all.

Edit: Well after watching the videos now it pretty much says it all.

[edit on 11-12-2009 by mikelee]



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 02:29 AM
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I couldn't help but notice that Mr. Scahill has an obvious agenda and purpose that comes across very clearly in the videos. Not saying I like it or don't, its just REALLY obvious.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 03:46 AM
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Oh man, good to see someone else is keeping an eye on them as well! I thought in your profile picture was because you worked for them!!

Thats a pretty good summary of them though I only have time now to watched half the videos... but Ive watched and read enough already to know they're just a front company.

"facilitate large scale stability operations requiring large numbers of people to assist in securing a region".
I did my project on them before I believed in the NWO. But there it is. They are war (for profit) for hire! And if they are needed for STABILITY in a large REGION such as a US state, well there they go.

And they'll be called 'impartial' because they are not military (technically).



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 03:58 AM
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I thought everyone new this. I didn't think they were even trying to be discreet about the U.S. and Blackwater's relationship. With as many as 180,000 contractors working in Iraq, and at points actually outnumbering troops on the ground. Wasn't Blackwater running around New Orleans during Katrina confiscating peoples guns or was that just a rumor.
No doubt their needs to be accountability and our government is using these tactics in the new age warfare to create a cloud so thick, they can use national security/defense disclosure and the advocation of promoting 'confusion' as reasons to protect our governments misdeeds from the public.

From what I have heard from friends in law enforcement is the implementation of a restructuring is currently underway in major cities across the US in how law enforcement agencies can utilize tactics that until recently would have been unheard of. The police agencies have access to 'investigative specialists' that are hired as 'contractors' and basically circumvent the bill of rights and the constitution for whatever means they see fit. I think we will be seeing a more visible private security force in the near future, probably triggered by the next major national disaster, and when it comes time to structure it, it will look a lot like Xe...and all in all, when you put pen to paper regarding the record of Blackwater, considering the line of work they have barely been scathed besides the ton of bad press. What scares me are the private contractors we don't hear about on the news.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by mikelee
Blackwater (Xe to those insiders who know, isn't the same as BW) started out as a legit security company however one has to look at Eric Prince's motives as well those of his former partner when Blackwater was no more than a dream. I believe it has turned out to become an arm (unacknowledged one that is) of not only the CIA but the DIA and others. I have seen BW personnel in the company of known agency personnel in not just the Middle East but in Europe, Balkans and other parts of the world. This is no secret at all.

It wouldn't suprise me in the least if this were true, as a matter of fact I'd react to it no more or less than turning on the tv to watch the news. It really isn't a surprise at all.

Edit: Well after watching the videos now it pretty much says it all.

[edit on 11-12-2009 by mikelee]


Blackwater/Xe to me is nothing more than the complete dismemberment of all military, Law Enforcement, and intelligence agencies through their very existence.

Whatever the original intent towards its creation, it is long gone, because they have crossed just about every boundary of wiping out Constitutional protections of our country.

The moment they stepped into a military role, bypassing our current military's design, they bastardized the meaning of America, cheapening our country as a sultry whore on a street corner in that they make our country less than the ideals, morals, and ethics of the Founding Fathers.

The moment they were deputized during Katrina by local Law Enforcement, after already having a clearly defined role as military, they erased the Posse Comitatus, which while this may seem an archaic and outdated, it is not, it was meant as a protection against abuses by our Federal Government.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Posse Comitatus

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement.

The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (today the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.


While Posse Comitatus was written in the immediate time after the Civil War, it is still just as needed as a F.I.S.A. Warrant in regards to Federal Phone Taps, whether the Federal Government agrees with that statement, or not.

Jeremy Scahill is supposed to be left-wing, according to everyone I know, but I believe he leans more towards the desire of not wanting to see the potential, and or immediate abuses of the Constitution, in the guise of practicing American foreign policy, at the hands of politician's who are not considering that the very existence of these "Private Military Costrators" breaks all the laws of the Constitution.

While during the American Revolution our Founding Father may have used the Hessian's to increase the number of serving military to assist in the overthrow of a tyrannical King George, there were no other resources at the time, nor an other allies available because of the constrictive nature of what England saw as an illegal manuever in breaking away from the Hegemony.

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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by Ridhya
Oh man, good to see someone else is keeping an eye on them as well! I thought in your profile picture was because you worked for them!!

Thats a pretty good summary of them though I only have time now to watched half the videos... but Ive watched and read enough already to know they're just a front company.

"facilitate large scale stability operations requiring large numbers of people to assist in securing a region".
I did my project on them before I believed in the NWO. But there it is. They are war (for profit) for hire! And if they are needed for STABILITY in a large REGION such as a US state, well there they go.

And they'll be called 'impartial' because they are not military (technically).


That is correct, they are a front company, to allow the Pentagon and Department of Defense practice false foreign policy through a war that was never needed.

I would not work for them nor would I allow the existence of P.M.C.'s if I were President.

You will be interested in the threads below, I wrote the first one while reading Jeremy Scahill's book, the second one I wrote close to the time Obama took office, trying to balance out the view I held somewhat.

Blackwater : Right-Wing Conservative America, Whether You Like It Or Not...

Blackwater : Left-Wing Liberal America, & Shifting Alliance, Leading Because It's For Our Future...

I received a high compliment from a Moderator for the work I put into the first thread, in retaining Blackwater Expert, you see the emblem under the painted on Xe in blue, and when they switched names through a shoddy cover-up, people suggested I ask the Moderator's to change my threads titles to Xe instead of Blackwater and I refused.

First of all, I see that we need to never forget their original name.

Secondly, while they will go through a cover-up, I would rather not do that in regards to that thread here on ATS, so my leaving the title there is symbolic as a reminder and as well the painted over Xe, is a reminder that their cover-up was sloppy and there are those of us who still see them for what they are, mercenaries, because when whitewash a turd, it is still a turd.

I felt dropping the Expert title was a necessity, in honor, since while I may know Blackwater, and Xe is still the same people, they are shifting and changing, and I believe it will not be for the better, only far, far worse.

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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Jnewell33
I thought everyone new this. I didn't think they were even trying to be discreet about the U.S. and Blackwater's relationship. With as many as 180,000 contractors working in Iraq, and at points actually outnumbering troops on the ground.


I knew this but there are many who do not.

That they outnumber our troops on the ground is a disgrace to our Military.

While I may not agree with the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, and the coming Iran War, I would much rather see our troops fighting it with honor, than these low curs acting as soldiers.


Originally posted by Jnewell33
Wasn't Blackwater running around New Orleans during Katrina confiscating peoples guns or was that just a rumor.


You are correct, they acted under direction through F.E.M.A., and while under National Emergency, seized weaponry, they were as well deputized by many local Law Enforcement agencies, double, and triple-dipping monetarily.

National Emergency Act : Know Your Law, When Law Is Suspended, and You May Be Arrested


Originally posted by Jnewell33
No doubt their needs to be accountability and our government is using these tactics in the new age warfare to create a cloud so thick, they can use national security/defense disclosure and the advocation of promoting 'confusion' as reasons to protect our governments misdeeds from the public.


The problem stems from the Pentagon and Department of Defense trying to use denial through beligerant ignorance of our Constitution, denying they are even military, that they are in fact civilian contractors, this makes them Civilian Military, and through the guise under F.E.M.A., this makes them too powerful an entity, because while Homeland Security may manage the umbrella over all Law Enforcement, this makes Blackwater/Xe a wholly different entity completely than just a military escort service, like some have pointed out.


Originally posted by Jnewell33
From what I have heard from friends in law enforcement is the implementation of a restructuring is currently underway in major cities across the US in how law enforcement agencies can utilize tactics that until recently would have been unheard of.


That is correct and it is an abuse of power wholly and completely.


Originally posted by Jnewell33
The police agencies have access to 'investigative specialists' that are hired as 'contractors' and basically circumvent the bill of rights and the constitution for whatever means they see fit.


This is the complete ignoring of the Constitution, suspending our Civil Rights, suspending our right as a country, to not be locked away for disagreeing with Government.

Are You "Right-Wing Fringe", or "Left-Wing Fringe" and How Will They Push You


Originally posted by Jnewell33
I think we will be seeing a more visible private security force in the near future, probably triggered by the next major national disaster, and when it comes time to structure it, it will look a lot like Xe...and all in all, when you put pen to paper regarding the record of Blackwater, considering the line of work they have barely been scathed besides the ton of bad press. What scares me are the private contractors we don't hear about on the news.


This is just it though, if we have another National Disaster, will it be real like a hurricane, or a False-Flag Operation, a covert black-box operation, through illicit means to instigate a complete round up of citizens who have every right to their First Amendment Rights of Free Speech?

As well as the threads above, you will be interested in this thread.

Hoist the Flag : False Flags, Agent Provocateurs, and Black Box Operations

...and this thread...

False Flag Operator, Become Sheep-Dipped Or Wolf-Dipped, and Become A Puppet Dictator?

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posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 10:17 PM
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I totally agree with you about not changing titles, but if anything put Blackwater/Xe because that IS their entire purpose in changing to Xe, a whitewash...
Where does it say you're the Blackwater expert..?


I had no idea PMCs outnumber the actual military!! I have heard obviously there are a ton but I thought maybe 1/3rd of the US army at most. And by outnumber you must mean ALL the contractors because I dont think Blackwater has that many themself. They even had to hire extra (from S America I remember specifically, as some of them died in a helicopter crash!) because there was so much demand!

I agree with you in banning mercenaries...they're just in it for the money and have no military police who can legally deal with them!



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Ridhya
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I totally agree with you about not changing titles, but if anything put Blackwater/Xe because that IS their entire purpose in changing to Xe, a whitewash...
Where does it say you're the Blackwater expert..?


It used to be on my avatar and within the Blackwater threads I linked it is discussed.

I had my avatar edited to exclude the expert title as per my original explanation.

With my avatar have Blackwater's old avatar/corporate logo with the sloppy cover-up, this is to me enough to symbolize both names, a double-negative if you will.


Originally posted by Ridhya
I had no idea PMCs outnumber the actual military!! I have heard obviously there are a ton but I thought maybe 1/3rd of the US army at most. And by outnumber you must mean ALL the contractors because I dont think Blackwater has that many themself. They even had to hire extra (from S America I remember specifically, as some of them died in a helicopter crash!) because there was so much demand!


Yes, I do mean all of the Private Military Contractors, not just Blackwater/Xe.

More often than not according to my sources these organizations hire ex-military of foreign Governments with a less than stellar human rights reputation, in order to get overly aggressive people intentionally.


Originally posted by Ridhya
I agree with you in banning mercenaries...they're just in it for the money and have no military police who can legally deal with them!


There is the crux of the situation, there are no higher authorities, other than a manager, or direct supervisor, no military court for wrongdoings, no recourse for anyone wrongfully and aggresively threatened, other than our Government, the media, and of course they can go side with the opposing force which only assists in their recruiting processes.

You never, ever leave someone with no recourse for action, always have a mediating presence of some kind, because while you may not want the people in the middle confines of your fall back position, military garrison, or ammo dump, you sure as Hell don't want them in the opposing forces either.

Hearts and minds, my friend, hearts and minds.

I notice you have Mjöllnir within your avatar, the Vikings, Berserker's, and Celts were a favorite part of my exploration of history to me.

I have added you as a friend.

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posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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Just FYI, I have it on good authority from a trusted source that while the State Department stated last year they won't be hiring Blackwater any longer, The State Department already negotiated Xe's other "options" for services in Iraq, Afghanistan, Balkan region (in spite of US stating it will pull out of region) and in Africa.

BOHICA...Bend Over Here It Comes Again



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by mikelee
Just FYI, I have it on good authority from a trusted source that while the State Department stated last year they won't be hiring Blackwater any longer, The State Department already negotiated Xe's other "options" for services in Iraq, Afghanistan, Balkan region (in spite of US stating it will pull out of region) and in Africa.

BOHICA...Bend Over Here It Comes Again


I would not doubt this in the least due to the fact that the State Department is involved.

The land of bureaucracy and do as I say and not as I do, the State Department.

They don't call it Foggy Bottom for nothing, lost in the fog and morass of bureaucracy.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 10:50 AM
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There is nothing wrong whatsoever with the State Dept. hiring Black wa... er Xe.. to do SECURITY. Where the problem lies is when they are used in combat missions. That is ILLEGAL according to US law. Of course since when did the fact that something was illegal bother Dick Cheney et al.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by jtma508
There is nothing wrong whatsoever with the State Dept. hiring Black wa... er Xe.. to do SECURITY. Where the problem lies is when they are used in combat missions. That is ILLEGAL according to US law. Of course since when did the fact that something was illegal bother Dick Cheney et al.



I have zero issues with them working security.

It is however when "security" turns into warfare, that it concerns me.

As well, there are places that the State Department, President, and other diplomats just do not need to go, putting themselves into harms way, and as well the "contractors" protecting them.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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I have HUGE problems with any private company doing combat missions. Or using US troops to do private military work. This is a massive fraud. And exceedingly dangerous to the security of the US.



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