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Obama to shove NWO down america's throat using "Executive Order"

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posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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Looks like ole Berky Obama is going to give us all an NWO whether we want one or not! Once he signs the treaty at copenhagen, according to Lord Monckton, If the congress doesn't ratify it, he will authorize a "Presidential" executive order to sign america aboard the Climate Treaty Bill! Oh how you Obama worshippers must be ever so proud right now eh?

Let's see how proud ya'll are when your kids are fighting more and more bogus wars in the name of freedom and combatting terrorism, when in fact all that's happening is the biggest eugenics program ever known to mankind!
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Lord Monckton Warns Obama Will Attempt Use of Executive Authority to Commit US to Copenhagen Agreement
In a brief video released on the Internet, Lord Christopher Monkton is seen giving a speech today in Copenhagen warning that President Obama will try to use his Executive Authority to sign an agreement, rather than a treaty, to commit the United States to undertake measures against climate change that will seriously damage the freedoms and prosperity of America.
www.prisonplanet.com...

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Copenhagen: Global Population Control Program Suggested To Stop Climate Change
The Chinese government delegation at the Copenhagen climate change conference has argued that the Communist dictatorship's one child policy should "serve as a model for integrating population programs into the framework of climate change adaptation."
www.infowars.net...

[edit on 10-12-2009 by thewind]



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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I guess I get your point. But maybe he can shove it up his own ass. And I don't mean maybe.


People who follow this kind of reasoning are wrong.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 10:23 PM
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So what exaclty is the climate teaty bill? Ive heard of it so far, but havnt done much research./ What are the new laws were are DEF looking at???



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 10:35 PM
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Prisonplanet, infowars and Alex Jones. Yep, got to be true. I wish some of these "gurus" would fall off the planet.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 02:02 AM
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Look up Aaron Russo. Theres a youtube video with an interview of him. I think hes dead now. still though. scary stuff.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 06:06 AM
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TPTB are not only evil, but apparently stupid. One reason the carbon tax scheme is falling apart is because they didn't pay off enough people.

It is rumored that Russian hackers revealed the e-mails that are damaging. Could it be the work of some intelligence agency? I have always felt that the Russians were ready, willing and able to disclose pertinent western secrets.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by thewind
Looks like ole Berky Obama is going to give us all an NWO whether we want one or not! Once he signs the treaty at copenhagen, according to Lord Monckton, If the congress doesn't ratify it, he will authorize a "Presidential" executive order to sign america aboard the Climate Treaty Bill! Oh how you Obama worshippers must be ever so proud right now eh?

Let's see how proud ya'll are when your kids are fighting more and more bogus wars in the name of freedom and combatting terrorism, when in fact all that's happening is the biggest eugenics program ever known to mankind!
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Only time will tell if an "Executive Order" will be used.
Executive Order:

Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies. Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of congressionally established laws or policies. However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent.

Not all EOs are created equal. Proclamations, for example, are a special type of Executive Order that are generally ceremonial or symbolic, such as when the President declares National Take Your Child To Work Day. Another subset of Executive Orders are those concerned with national security or defense issues. These have generally been known as National Security Directives. Under the Clinton Administration, they have been termed "Presidential Decision Directives."

Executive Orders do not require Congressional approval to take effect but they have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress. The President's source of authority to issue Executive Orders can be found in the Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution which grants to the President the "executive Power." Section 3 of Article II further directs the President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." To implement or execute the laws of the land, Presidents give direction and guidance to Executive Branch agencies and departments, often in the form of Executive Orders.

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So....if he uses up an EO for just the purpose of signing the Copenhagen Treaty, I would personally deem it as unconstitutional.

But that's just me.

U.S. Courts and Congress can overturn EO's though (although we know Pelosi won't do squat without Obama's hand held high):

To date, U.S. courts have overturned only two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order, and a 1996 order issued by President Clinton that attempted to prevent the U.S. government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll.[4] Congress may overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it or by refusing to approve funding to enforce it. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a Congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event due to the supermajority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers very vulnerable to political criticism.

Source from Wikipedia

Good heads up though!



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 06:24 AM
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None of you people really know what the world will be like, as your stuck in thinking of todays world. even though global warming is bull, the nwo is not that bad an idea.

Just ask santa nicely, lol.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 06:48 AM
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Ya gotta remember one thing about EO's, and that's this. I don't know if you remember when ole slick willie was in office, but do you remember the remark Paul Begala made about running the country if ole Bubba couldn't get any cooperation from the then republican congress and senate?

Paul Begala said, and I quote: Run the country by the stroke of the pen, Ahhh, cool!



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 06:51 AM
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You're knocking alex jones for what? Reporting the news that the msm refuses to report? News is news, no matter where it comes from. I don't agree with all alex says or does, but I don't knock his reporting of the news.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 06:56 AM
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Naw, the nwo isn't a bad idea if you like having 48-52% of your annual income going to the UN for some kind of global tax! There will be a carbon tax, trade taxes, business ownership tax, third world nation tax for underdeveloped countries, a reparations tax, energy taxes, fuel surcharge tax, healthcare tax, Climate Treaty membership taxes, and that's just the ones I know about!

You can have your nwo, it's taxes and loss of liberty all ya want!



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by thewind
reply to post by andy1033
 
Naw, the nwo isn't a bad idea if you like having 48-52% of your annual income going to the UN for some kind of global tax! There will be a carbon tax, trade taxes, business ownership tax, third world nation tax for underdeveloped countries, a reparations tax, energy taxes, fuel surcharge tax, healthcare tax, Climate Treaty membership taxes, and that's just the ones I know about!

You can have your nwo, it's taxes and loss of liberty all ya want!



this is just a pile of stink...there was more loss of liberty during the bush years, then of any other president we've had. and i don't give a damn if the rich have to pay more taxes...they have been picking the pocket of the taxpayer for years.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 07:07 AM
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So what exaclty is the climate teaty bill? Ive heard of it so far, but havnt done much research./ What are the new laws were are DEF looking at???
Here are just a few of the things that will happen If Obama gets the USA underneath the Climate Treaty
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What is the Copenhagen Climate Treaty?

The Copenhagen Treaty has two stated goals:

* Transfer wealth from Industrial Nations (The United States) to Developing Countries.
* Dictate energy use and consumption to Industrial Nations (The United States)

Now, just so we are clear...

* Goal Number One is Global Socialism
* Goal Number Two is a Global Dictatorship

Limit manufacturing in the U.S. by cap and trade regulations = Loss of Jobs
Limit personal consumption of energy by law and costs = Loss of Freedom
Hyper Energy cost Inflation
ALL goods and materials to become more expensive = Double Digit Inflation
Transportation to become more expensive = $10 per gallon gas prices
Halt the US Recovery = Prolonged Recession / Depression
Assure and accelerate the shift of economic growth and profitability from the U.S to emerging markets = Loss of Opportunity
Increase Imports for emerging countries who will not be subject to the same carbon emissions limits = Unfair Competition, Increased Trade Deficit
Cause the U.S. to become an even greater debtor while China becomes an even bigger creditor = More Red Debt
Add momentum to the movement away from the U.S. Dollar toward an alternate single or composite world reserve currency = One World Currency
Increase the cost of Treasury borrowings = Ballooning Deficit
Drive up federal and state taxes = Suffocating Taxes


The Copenhagen Climate Treaty will strip America of its Sovereignty, and subject us to laws, rules and huge taxes levied by a one-world, leftist, elitist governing body that wants to steal America's wealth to punish us for our success as a nation. Worst of all, Americans will NOT have the power to vote these elitists out of office, impeach them, or hold them accountable in any way whatsoever.... If we do not stand firm and united against this treasonous treaty, the greatest country in the world may be forever subservient to a One World Order and it will have happened on our watch.



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by thewind
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Ya gotta remember one thing about EO's, and that's this. I don't know if you remember when ole slick willie was in office, but do you remember the remark Paul Begala made about running the country if ole Bubba couldn't get any cooperation from the then republican congress and senate?

Paul Begala said, and I quote: Run the country by the stroke of the pen, Ahhh, cool!


Yes, that is why I think if this guy uses EO to sign this treaty, it should be deemed by the American public, as unconstitutional.

But, for some reason, I don't think they will.

I know all too well what this Treaty will do.

Good thread!



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 09:52 PM
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You'll learn that there's no difference between bush or obama. Republican, Democrat, notta bit of difference, they serve the same master. I was a dem for more than 22 years, and it took slick willie clinton to wake me up!



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by vance
Prisonplanet, infowars and Alex Jones. Yep, got to be true. I wish some of these "gurus" would fall off the planet.


If you want another source here you have it.


Lord Monckton Warns Obama Will Attempt Use of Executive Authority to Commit US to Copenhagen Agreement

By Steve Jalsevac

COPENHAGEN, December 9, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a brief video released on the Internet, Lord Christopher Monkton is seen giving a speech today in Copenhagen warning that President Obama will try to use his Executive Authority to sign an agreement, rather than a treaty, to commit the United States to undertake measures against climate change that will seriously damage the freedoms and prosperity of America.

Monkton states, "President Obama is going to come here (Copenhagen) and sign the Copenhagen Agreement." He says it's no longer being called a treaty specifically because US Senators "know they can't get a treaty through the US Senate." Monkton continues explaining, "so, President Obama is going to sign this agreement by his executive authority and he will then put it through both houses of Congress by a vote of simple majority."

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www.lifesitenews.com...



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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Funny how people like you who make tis same claim immediately scurry under the nearest rock to hide when evidence is posted that Obama has signed Socialist laws which were claimed Bush would sign, yet it has been Obama who has signed these laws.

From MANDATORY Community Service which something called "The Corporation" will have control over, as well as voluntary community service, and all learn and base programs/education....

In H.R. 1388 which OBAMA signed into law there is also mention of how the Corporation will have a citizenship electronic verification system implemented.

There is also mention of how American children starting from secondary school will have to do at least 50 hours a year of MANDATORY Community Service. If you are in College you will have to do 100 hours of MANDATORY Community Service, plus you will have to do about 3 months of military training if you are between ages 18-25... NO CHOICE, even if you are a single parent, or if you have two jobs to pay for College....

Not to mention the videos we have seen, and have been posted SEVERAL TIMES that show OBama telling an old sweet lady that it might be better if she just continues to take the pills, which oly helps big pharma, instead of having the treatments, or operation/s that the doctor says could help her.... and this is only because the treatments and operations are not economically viable....

We have had SEVERAL threads yet once in a while and Obama.... comes over and claims "it's all a lie"...



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