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UFO Pyramid Over Kremlin in Moskow?

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posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:05 PM
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I'm not saying that you can't get out anywhere. I'm only saying that we are talking about getting out of the car around the Kremlin. Obviously the road is busy, and there are not any areas on the side of the road to pull over. I've been to places in Washington D.C. where you can't stop the car or pull over because A) there is no place to pull over that is safe, and B) the traffic is moving such the driver did not feel good getting out.

I've made a google map, marking the locations and route the car traveled. I hope this helps:

Google map of the locations and route




posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by PhotonEffect
I guess someone with a little common sense would have to ask themselves:

"Where are all the witnesses to such a spectacular sighting?"

It's not like this thing was filmed in the backwoods of Russia where there would be very few witnesses. No, this video would like us to believe that it was filmed over the Kremlin...so where is the UFO flap? Where are all the witnesses coming forth? A missile in Norway causes a stir all over the world, yet a hovering pyramid over the Kremlin goes completely unnoticed?

Really, are we all that gullible and stupid?
That's a good point.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:20 PM
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VERY IMPORTANT thing just noticed in the video!

After looking at the Google map of the location, it became clear that there is something very important everyone has missed in this video:

The intense lights and towers beneath the object!

Look at time 00:24 and you will see a very bright area on the ground beneath the tetrahedron. That area where the tetrahedron is does not normally have anything there. ( See the Google map link in my previous post to see where the object is on the Kremlin complex.)

Also, you can see at time 00:51 several very strange looking small towers in the very brightly lit area. After careful study of the entire area on Google maps, and cross-correlating the video to the maps, I can say for certain that those towers are not part of the Kremlin, but are there, under the tetrahedron.

The area is EXTREMELY brightly lit, with no apparent source for that much light. The entire area, including the concrete and towers are the brightest things in the image, and there is no visible light source shining that light onto that entire area. At this point it appears to be a mystery as to where the light is coming from.

Also, after careful analysis, there are three towers beneath the object, where all three are angled to match the angle of the tetrahedron surfaces. While the two farther towers seem to come to more of a blunt point, the one that is closest is built differently. It has two rails going up, and looks like it may even have stairs between the two rails. From what I am seeing, these look like a some kind of landing dock to hold the tetrahedron when it is on the ground!


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posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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The video of the pattern in the sky was obviously something that is unexplained, and most people did not think it could even be consider to be CGI. This on the other hand has had more skepticism because of the nature of what we are looking at. People were quick to judge this without actually studying it and looking at it critically. There was MUCH speculation and ad hoc assessments, but if one takes a careful look, things start to jump out. Only after I fully analyzed the entire video, got a translation of the two men in the car, traced their route on Google maps, and looked even more carefully at the video, did I realize that the brightly lit area under the tetrahedron was not a normal part of the Kremlin.

So, even the guys in the car thought that something was quite interesting about the object and intense light under it. Also, we can clearly see that the object rotates on several axis as it hovers there, so that is a good question how it does that if is tied down with cables. Plus, and here is a big PLUS... with all that light on the ground, why are there no signs of any cables reflecting any of that light?



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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Plus, and this is also a big plus...

Where are all the witnesses?? There's daytime footage of this thing too that's being pawned off as legit-- well where are the witnesses?

PLUS- why would the Russians allow a pyramid from another world to hover over their governmental buildings and city like that?

Why shouldn't these things be considered first?



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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WOW! This is intense.

I'm sure we'll get more out of this in a few more days. Hoax or not, S&F to you my friend. This is good stuff nonetheless. Thanks.

I'll come back here and check on this again. It's nice to know that a video guru is on this mate!



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:58 PM
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Look at time 00:57 in the night time video... look at the landing dock and lights under the floating object.

This greatly complicates the image and what we are looking at.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:04 PM
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i cant wait to see the look on some of the faces here when the cgi team behind it come forward.


sad... but , to the believer little proof is needed, to the skeptic proof is never conclusive...

a giant pyramid ufo above a city scrape and no one else saw it [moscow of al places] or, the government didnt scramble jets, or traffic didnt come to a complete halt... so pathetic.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:04 PM
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This is fairly new comrade. If this is serious, we'll get answers in a few days.

And if this is the real deal, the answers may not be easy to digest. So I for one will nowsit back and relax. Enjoy the ride.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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Im afraid you're not understanding the points I'm trying to make.

Forget the spotlights in the video for a minute. And try to look at this in the grand scheme of its implications. For this to be a UFO over the Kremlin, there needs to be a lot more to it then what we have... There needs to be numerous witness accounts, media attention, and quite possibly military intervention, because you can't have pyramids flying in from outer space and hovering over government buildings without the whole world knowing.

It just doesn't work that way



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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Listen... it is clear that this setup, the towers, and the tetrahedron is something that the Kremlin has invited or even setup themselves. There is no way that this would be there unless the Kremlin knew about it, and was fully behind it being there.

Once again, look at time 00:51 to 00:57 and you will see that this is not a CGI video. There is a real complex set up there just outside the Kremlin walls on the wide mall area.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:10 PM
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th video didnt need much analysis to be honest. its clearly fake to even a kindergartener. but this is ats...



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by deadlysponge
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th video didnt need much analysis to be honest. its clearly fake to even a kindergartener. but this is ats...


I keep thinking that people misread deny ignorance with deny logic



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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The governments all know about it, the Russian government if fully engaged with the exopolitics (this is not something they are shooting at, they are having talks, etc.) The media is all blacked out, just like they are about the official 911 issue, the true agenda of the NWO, and many other topics.

In fact, the people of Russia are far more aware of UFOs within their country, and their government does not deny them as much as the USA does. This has been said not only by someone in this thread, but it was also confirmed to me by the Russian translator I chatted with last night who translated the driver's conversation.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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For more info on this subject from another sfx guru, please try this:

another forum

I'm so new to linking. sorry.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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It's been a couple of days already... in this age information can be disseminated around the globe in seconds... case in point the Norway spiral...

If this was legit we would've heard about it long ago-- it would dominate headlines-

I mean consider what the implications are-- a huge pyramid flies in from space and parks itself over the Kremlin!! Surely that's worth a headline, even on Pravda



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:16 PM
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Your close-minded arrogant attitude is not really appreciated. You only show yourself to be silly because you don't give anything by way of proof, and just spew ad hominem attacks... I'm glad that ATS has people who are far above that kind of thing.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by downisreallyup


In fact, the people of Russia are far more aware of UFOs within their country, and their government does not deny them as much as the USA does. This has been said not only by someone in this thread, but it was also confirmed to me by the Russian translator I chatted with last night who translated the driver's conversation.

Ok, this video was supposedly shot in Oct of this year. If Russia knows, and is more aware of UFOs, then where is the Russian news on this story?



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:19 PM
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Here's another vid. If I repost, my apologies.

It's clearer in the day time.



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posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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This could have only been there that one night and the following morning. And please stop assuming what the media these days will show and what they will not show. You do not know who is really in charge of the media, and what stories are completely blacked out. I mean, the media refuses to say anything about the truth behind 911. The media refuses to say anything about the reality behind the New World Order. Did the media report the truth of what happened with Kennedy's assassination, or did they repeat the lie?

It is amazing how many here will say "oh, the media is just an arm of the NWO", and then when it comes to debunking something the first place they refer to is that very same media!

It's called "talking out of the both sides of one's mouth."



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