Shedding some light on the mysterious Hum

reply to post by freeradical1


If there's a HAARP facility in Puerto Rico and this is the cause of the hum, that may explain why it was so strong/ loud there. Closer to its origin or source.

This must be what a lab rat feels... Something is happening to me and I don't know who is doing this, why they are doing this, what they are doing exactly, and where they are doing it at. Like I said before, you people responsible for this hum, whoever you are, you will have some explaining to do. Your time will come. What I'm experiencing you will experience many times more...

Usually around this time (1030 pm EST) the sound is pretty annoying and hard to ignore, but tonight I sense the sound is somewhat weaker. Thank you hum producers, maybe you do have a conscience after all...

Last night was a different story. I couldn't stay asleep for very long thanks to the hum. That can't be good for my health.

Maybe, you can just stop this experiment of yours. You have caused enough harm already.

Had afriend over to stay from interstate last year,and about the time period that he stayed with us,I experienced the "hum".For about a month and a half it plagued me i was the only one in MY house to hear it,i found out a couple of months ago that the next door neighbor heard it too.

The tone was very low,it was directional and didn't pulse.it could happen at any time of the day and didn't seem to have any pattern to when it would appear.

Then after that month and a half it stopped never to hum again.

Just fine by me.

reply to post by notknowing


Why not apply some science to this. A generic PC with a half decent sound card can help you out here. Pick up a sensitive condenser microphone and plug it in to your MIC or LINE IN. Go get a trial version of Sony's SoundForge.

This program can produce some very good Low Frequency and Broadband sonographs. Try and capture the sound you hear and see if you can correlate it with the displays in the sonographs.

You could move it to different places in the house and outside and record samples that you can annotate with how you think you were hearing the sound at the time. This will go a long way in attempting to characterize what you are experiencing.

You could even use a directional microphone, available on Ebay for under $40 that would be really usefull in trying to locate where the source of the sound is coming from.


Post a few of those charts here for us!

Ok let me give you a medical explanation. I know you said your done with doctors and I find it odd that your doctor would try to treat it with a vitamin? Did he do bloodwork?

This is a common medical condition called Tinnitus. It can be a humming, ringing, buzzing, whooshing sound, roaring.... Millions of people suffer from some degree of Tinnitus. It's not a disease but a symptom. Do you have high blood pressure? Some type of other circulatory ailment? The doctor is the way to go before looking for a paranormal explanation. And if your doctor didn't tell you what the name of this problem was and attempted to treat it with vitamins without performing some sort of other tests you need a new doctor.

I actually suffer from it and it stems from my High Blood Pressure. Had it since I was 17. When I get up at 6 am it's quite loud(mine is a ringing sound). I take my meds and it gradually gets lower and lower as my meds reach max strength after 5 hours. After about 10 hours or in times of stress it gets louder until it reaches it's loudest point at bedtime. I relieved this somewhat by splitting my betablocker dose to half in the am and half at dinner.

reply to post by charlyv


What if this hum is actually not a sound at all? Let's say they are electromagnetic waves that my ears detect as a low frequency sound...
I'm not a technical person and really don't want to waste money doing something I have no experience with. I want a trained scientist from a university to come to my house and perform all the measurements needed to figure out what this hum is, where it is coming from, and whether it is harmful or not.

I have contacted so many and NOT ONE has shown any interest in investigating. Doesn't that strike anyone as odd? It seems to me they already know the source of this hum and for whatever reason can't tell us. YET.

reply to post by DrJay1975


MY blood pressure is normal... How do you explain the fact that the sound feels stronger/ louder inside the house than outside? How do you explain that at one particular location in Puerto Rico it was very strong outside?

How do you explain my dog suffering because of this sound and then in less than a year after the sound started, dying due to a HEMANGIOSARCOMA OF THE SPLEEN?????

Sorry, I don't buy the blood pressure explanation...

reply to post by notknowing


Understand , however, there are so many people, including myself that hear frequencies in their ears all the time, that they will assume you have an inner ear problem.

I was a professional drummer for years, and I have this high pitched ringing in my ears that is way above a first harmonic A (440). Some days it is low volume , others high, but it is always there and it is because I did not use ear protection when I needed it.

That said, you need to prove to yourself that this is not internal. The method I described will help you if you really want to get to the bottom of this.

Originally posted by notknowing
reply to post by DrJay1975

 

MY blood pressure is normal... How do you explain the fact that the sound feels stronger/ louder inside the house than outside? How do you explain that at one particular location in Puerto Rico it was very strong outside?

How do you explain my dog suffering because of this sound and then in less than a year after the sound started, dying due to a HEMANGIOSARCOMA OF THE SPLEEN?????

Sorry, I don't buy the blood pressure explanation...

As you know, tinnitus is the medical term for “ringing in the ears”. Tinnitus can also be heard as a buzzing, roaring, hissing, clicking, high-pitched whining, low-pitched hums, or even pulsing like the heart. It is estimated that over 35 million people in the United States have tinnitus (including ME). I have had tinnitus for the last 7-8 years and just recently, mine has gone crazy, too -- louder and more annoying.

Tinnitus is not a disease, but a symptom – a symptom of many common medical problems, such as ear infections, wax impactions, noise exposure (like rock concerts), TMJ (temporomandibular joint) disorders, or even a side effect of certain medications like aspirin, ibuprofen, caffeine, or birth control pills. Tinnitus may also be a symptom of more serious illnesses like high blood pressure, anxiety/depression, diabetes, thyroid disorders, Ménière’s disease, blood vessel disorders, or tumors. If you have had tinnitus since a child, you most likely had inner ear damage (perhaps from a simple viral infection) that caused it.

Even if a cause is not found, there is still hope for successful treatment aimed at quieting the noise and controlling the anxiety. Not all techniques work for everyone. Usually, it is a combination of therapies, used over time, that offer the best hope. Quieting the ringing will require a lifelong commitment to lifestyle changes, cooperative medical care, and most importantly – a positive and optimistic attitude.

Antianxiety medications, like Valium or Xanax, as well as a wide range of antidepressant medications are very helpful for tinnitus-sufferers. Other medications, such as diuretics (water pills), muscle relaxants, anticonvulsants medications, and antihistamines are also used and individually prescribed by your doctor.

Biofeedback, relaxation training, counseling, and individualized psychotherapy helps manage stress and help you change your body’s reaction to the tinnitus. Tinnitus Retraining Therapy (TRT) combines counseling with special background sounds designed to help people suppress the sounds of their tinnitus.

Special hearing aids, electronic masking devices, or both, are often used when other methods have failed to achieve control. Cochlear implants and cochlear stimulation devices are being investigated for severe, intractable tinnitus cases. Surgical injections of lidocaine directly into the inner ear structure are also being used in some individual cases.

Alternative treatments such as hypnosis, acupuncture, chiropractic adjustments, vitamin/mineral supplements, herbal remedies (including Ginkgo biloba) may have some promise, but there is little, if any, meaningful research as to their individual effectiveness. Ginkgo biloba is said to improve blood flow and nerve function, but should be used with caution if you have a bleeding disorder or take blood-thinners. There are some ongoing studies to determine if Gingko biloba is safe and effective for tinnitus. It is recommended that all tinnitus-sufferers explore alternative options carefully, with the cooperation of their medical providers.

Certain lifestyle changes are very important for those that have tinnitus. Caffeine is one of the most common aggravators of tinnitus and should be very limited. Coffee, teas, caffeinated colas, and chocolate all contain significant amounts of caffeine capable of constricting blood flow to the ear. Nicotine found in tobacco also constricts blood flow and can aggravate tinnitus, so efforts should be made to stop tobacco in all forms. A low-salt diet is also recommended by many medical providers, so hide that salt shaker and watch the sodium content of foods that you eat.

See a "tinnitus specialist" -- usually an ENT associated with a large, university-based medical center. You won't know if you can be helped, unless you try.

You have fluxuating tinitus most likely. If it's louder outside it may simply be a perceptual thing. It may be a temperature or a pressure fluxuation. It may be the humidity, who knows. As far as your dog suffering, did he tell you it was the sound? No. YOur dog could have been suffering from the cancer all along. Was he exposed to arsenic, thorium dioxide or vinyl chloride? I'm guessing your dog was a golden retriever or a german shepard? Pet owners rarely find out about the disease until the dog collapses. It also causes many blood anormalities including excess coagulation which lead to hypertension which could lead to tinitus in dogs as well.

Here's my clinical opinion. You don';t want there to be a natural explanation. It may be paranormal, but your unwillingness to explore a conventional soloution says a lot.

reply to post by DrJay1975

To repeat: the sound is louder inside the house...
And my daughter can hear it also. She's 11. She has never been exposed to the loud music of a concert and doesn't have a hearing problem or high blood pressure...

My dog (that died in July 09) became very anxious and scared when the sound started. She was always a pretty easygoing, calm, and happy dog, but the night the sound started she ran around the house with her tail between her legs, her head down and her eyes showed fear. That night she stopped sleeping inside the house. My remaining dog still prefers to be outside and he was never like that before the sound started. The sound started in Sept. 08, and in March of 09, the Vet detected a very small growth in her spleen. By July the growth had enlarged to the size of a grapefruit. It was beyond sad. I don't know for sure what caused this, but whatever is causing this hum seems like a likely cause to me. By the way, did you read my post where I mentioned that the area where I live is being investigated as a possible cancer cluster because many kids (more than the expected number) have developed various forms of brain cancer?
Also, there was an article in the local paper (THE PALM BEACH POST) about other families losing their dogs to HEMANGIOSARCOMAS.

Wether this sound is caused by something "PARANORMAL" as you like to say, or HAARP, or a natural process with our planet, I don't know. But, I have a great need to find out. I am convinced the problem is not with my ears.

That particular variety of cancer is extremely agressive. And I apologize. Because this was posted in the paranormal studies forum I assumed you were looking for a paranormal soloution. Ok lets examine something other than Tininitus.

Lets look at the Taos hum. Which is similar to your description. THere are a couple of options, you have a genetic sensitivity to sounds in the 30-90hz range. We have so many devices operating in this frequency that if you did indeed possess a genetic predisposition to hear sounds in that frequency(which would explain the daughter hearing it) that it would be debilitating.

Another theory is related to the neurophone. Using the skin as an auditory sensory organ, much like when a fetus is in the womb. This frequency range could be resonating directly with the skin causing a direct pathway to the brain, again with a genetic predisposition your daughter hearing it makes it just as likely.

Either of these would also explain why you hear it in your travels and why its louder in the house. Are you near an industrial area, there are many pieces of industrial and ventilation equipment that operate in that sound range.

Just food for thought.

reply to post by DrJay1975


Thank God I don't have to read one more thing about Tinnitus...which by the way I do have also... I can be sensing this sound along with my 1000 cicadas (the insect that tinnitus resembles to me).

I guess you didn't read my first post. I went into the detail of when this started for me and the fact that the water pumping station that is located near me, about 1/4 to 1/2 mile (I'm not good with distance), had an alarm going off. So, when I started hearing the sound and feeling nauseous, I automatically assumed it had to do with the pumping station malfunctioning. But, of course, it didn't. Believe me, I looked into it. Even had someone come to my house from that facility. That facility is the only "industrial" thing around and in fact they turn their pumps off at night. So, whatever affected the pumps, also affected me. I'm convinced it has to be electromagnetic in nature.

Ever since this sound started I have been noticing more small planes having electrical problems and crashing. Maybe it is because I'm paying more attention to such things...Recently, a small plane painted red on the bottom with retractable landing gear and I think one propeller (but it could have had 2) flew low right over my house going south. It almost sounded like the blimp as it approached my house from the north. It started sputtering like the engine was going to shut off as it cleared the canal just south of me. That was a little scary. Because if the engine had shut off then, it would have crashed into the very populated residential area just south of my house.
Thank goodness most planes don't fly that low. I really think it affects planes that are small, older and when they fly too low or not going fast enough as when they are taking off or landing. You should research just how many planes have crashed just in the past year. And why. You will see electrical malfunctions a lot.

I'll never know what kind of doctor you are or if you are really a medical doctor, but at least you are showing an interest in solving this mysterious sound. My doctor just asked "how do I treat this medically?" when I mentioned I hear this low frequency sound. She had zero interest. I guess most people are too busy to notice or care. And I guess I'm not busy enough. I've always been the curious type.

In my personal opinion, and you seem like a nice enough person, I do not think you are willing to help yourself. Every time someone tries to offer you some advise, you push them off with another round of what now appears to be general whining.

It seems like you want this to be some kind of paranormal experience, and you do not want to apply some basic filters that will help you get a handle on reality.

Once you eliminate all of the real things that it cannot be, you can then at least have some justification to go the untraveled road.

We get it that you do not think it is in your head, so where is your plan to help to prove that?

reply to post by charlyv


You are right, I'm a whiner... And that is why I'm on this web site. Like everybody else, I'm whinning about something I don't understand.

Hopefully, one day someone who can really help me will read my posts.
I don't want to be doing the investigating. I think this should be left to highly trained and educated individuals who can accurately pin point the cause of this sound. That is why before I started wasting my time with this, I had contacted many government agencies, but they don't think there's a real problem here, I guess...

Plan? I don't have one.

reply to post by notknowing


There you go again.

If you want to know, I really helped you but you refuse to take responsibility for your problem. You cannot expect other people to come in to a subject like this and do your legwork for you. You need to substantiate your claims with real world evidence, of which, you have none of.

Once you solve your root-cause problem, which is your reluctance to really try and help yourself, you will just have this repetitive experience to haunt you forever. Good Luck.

After the last post by "charlyv" from Boston, MA, I had to think long and hard about wether I should continue to write to this blog. My original intention was to find others like myself, who are suffering due to THE HUM. To try to find the source or cause. It is unfortunate that there are people out there who feel compelled to knock us down. Makes one wonder about THEIR purpose for writing in this blog if they are not suffering due to THE HUM.

I had hoped more "hearers" would write to this blog, but as it turns out they are not. I can see why they are not writing. The put downs and demands for "PROOF" are hurtful and demeaning. I wonder what these people are like in person? Probably just as rude and full of themselves.

If you don't have a problem with the hum and really have nothing nice to say, you should really find another form of entertainment.

reply to post by DrJay1975


Are you still with us "Dr. Jay"? Yesterday, while reading the obituaries I noticed an obituary for a man who had a PhD and went by the nickname "Jay". I sure hope that wasn't you... I know, I'm being extremely paranoid.
Hopefully, that's just a coincidence. The thing is I think the year 1975 in your "name" might be when you received your degree (assuming you have a PhD). This man who died probably received his degree on that year. So sad, he was only 62 years old. He lived in Lake Worth, Florida.

I got curious, (there I go again, that's going to get me in trouble some day) and looked up some of your posts. You are a busy man... You must be retired. There were so many posts by you, but I found one that stood out in my mind. You mentioned you died twice. May I ask if you had a near death experience? I hope you are still around to answer...

Well, the area where I live, has been declared an official Cancer Cluster area. The question in my mind lately is: DOES THE HUM HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE INCREASE IN BRAIN CANCERS?

HUM HEARERS: Do you know if your area has an increase in brain cancers? Something to look into. Ask around. That's how it happened here. Attentive moms noticed too many kids in our area being diagnosed with brain cancers, mostly girls.

I do not want to burst your bubble but I reckon that what you're hearing is probably someones out of date and thus very subsonically noisy old fridge or freezer unit. Or a generator working at range. Power stations emmit sounds too. Subsonic Ultra Longwave Sound travels far from its source and is able to cause what you appear to be suffering. A method to determine what it is goes as follows. If only you can hear it then it is paranormal. However if others can hear it then in all probability it is mundain in origin. However, having said that it could be that you're picking up something paranormal. If that is true then you will live to wish it had been just some bodies fridge or freezer unit. These paranormal manifestations are a consequence of what scientists call Quantum Entanglement. QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT [QE] is not, as some believe it to be, the transfer of "information" at greater than the speed of light, at absolute velocity, or any velocity. QE is what some call "worm hole in space" what Albert Einstien called "The folding of the fabric of time and space". It is the "Oneness of All Things". Egyptian mystic called it "Star Gate". Take a sheet of paper. It is a two dimensional surface. Draw a point A and a point B. The distance between point A and point B is about three inches. Point A and point B are separated by space and it takes time to travel the three inches between them. But that is only because they exist in two dimensional space. If we introduce a third dimension we are then able to fold the paper in that third dimension. In folding the paper we join point A to point B. Then the separation between point A and point B is zero. No separation. Interestingly we all experience this QE in our subconsciousness which is, relative to our mundain daytime consciousness, a higher dimensional domain. The humming sound that you're hearing is what science calls a "carrier wave". Sit in meditation listening to it humming to you. Use it as a way by which to focus your mind. At the same time use a dot on the wall to focus your eyes. My prefered method of meditation involves a mirror. I insert a video MIANYANG which I made especially to assist novice such as yourself.

Google Video Link

Google Video Link

Hi notknowing,
Your not alone, many people are hearing "the hum". I know what is causing it. First, download the hum hearers google earth map to understand that you are definitely not alone and to see the depth of the problem visually. "Worldwide" phenomenon here.

add http to this: cid-09c7d3a75e11899c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/humhearersmap12-14-09.kmz

I've investigated the hum and its source for over a year and I'm looking to find others who also hear it, I think it's important to talk about this issue and get it out in the open as soon as possible. It's probably easier if you want, feel free to email me at [email protected] and I can tell you what I know about the hum's origin. It's great your in Florida, I am most interested in traveling to the everglades to see if the cursed hum is there. No cell phone towers in the everglades you know.

IJ


[edit on 20-2-2010 by indiana4jones]

if you really think the sounds are not a medical condition, and that it's not caused by tinnitus, maybe you should try wearing earplugs as well as industrial ear muffs and see for yourself if the humming still persists.

Because if you still can hear the sounds with these worn together, it most likely means the problem lies with you.

what about when you press your ear lobes into or use your fingers to block your ears, can you still hear the humming??

try it and see.