Gorbachev Exposes Global Communist Environmentalism Conspiracy., page 8
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reply posted on 12-12-2009 @ 01:31 PM by Someone336
It is impossible to say that there isn't a left wing agenda a work in the global warming story. However, lurking in the background is the same group of hyper capitalists behind a labyrinth of leftist oriented organizations that are operating the global warming agenda.

Earth Charter International

"The mission of the Earth Charter Initiative is to promote the transition to sustainable ways of living and a global society founded on a shared ethical framework that includes respect and care for the community of life, ecological integrity, universal human rights, respect for diversity, economic justice, democracy, and a culture of peace."


The head of the Council is Steven Rockefeller, son of Nelson Rockefeller (vice president under Ford, founder of Trilateral Commission), Razeena Wagiet of the World Wildlife Fund, and Brendan Mackey of The Natural Edge Project.

TNEP notes that they are "Assisting Education for Sustainable Development" for the oil giant Santos, and key US military *[[contractors like KBR Government & Infrastructure. [2]

"Selected KBR staff attended workshops, courses and seminars by The Natural Edge Project (TNEP). These resulted in the development of an in-house sustainability program through which we will educate and support our wider staff in the Asia Pacific region as the field of sustainable engineering continues to develop. This program has set the benchmark for our global counterparts in KBR and has provided a robust framework upon which we can build a sustainable future. We will continue to collaborate with TNEP as we progress towards sustainability."

Bridget Kelly, Sustainability Technical Sector Leader
KBR Government & Infrastructure.


Other members of the Earth Charter include Alexander Likhotal, a member of Green Cross International and advisor to the Gorbachev foundation. Gorbachev founded the Green Cross, whose membership includes Ted Turner of AOL Time-Warner.

One person connected to both the Green Cross and the Earth Charter is Maurice Strong, a self proclaimed "socialist in ideology, capitalist in methodology". However, he has connections the average left winger wouldn't have: he's a known associate of Adnan Khashoggi, the notorious arms dealer who played a key role not only in Iran-Contra but also acting a go between various individuals and groups (including Maurice Greenberg of AIG, Henry Kissinger and Enron) in to the UNOCAL-Taliban pipeline deals. Strong is also a close friend of the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, and has been implicated in the oil-for-food scandal.

Maurice Strong is a member of the 1001 Club -

The only official information available about this club - which the average person is very unlikely to stumble upon - is that it was established in the early seventies by individuals as Prince Bernhard, Prince Philip, Charles de Haes, and Anton Rupert, and that every member paid a one time fee of $10,000 to get lifetime membership - that's about it. This almost total absence of public awareness seems odd, as the men visiting 1001 Club receptions often represent some of the greatest economic interests on the planet.


Prince Bernard, of course, was a founder of the Bildeberg conferences and also a wartime member of NW7, the intelligence unit of the German chemical giant I.G. Farben.

To a large extent the 1001 Club seems to be just what it is supposed to be: a group of influential people concerned about the environment. However, as kings and emperors have shown over the centuries, it's perfectly possible to enjoy nature and not care anything for the common man. Striving for a sustainable future can be a very elitist thing. We all need fresh air and clean water. On top of that, many bankers and industrialists of the western world list among their hobbies such activities as hiking, fishing, visiting faraway places, and above all... hunting. An ever-expanding world population seriously gets in the way of these things.

Although no politician or journalist will burn his fingers on this topic, helping people of third world countries is actually quite problematic from a strictly geopolitical point of view. The reasons:

1. it may upset the balance of power;
2. there aren't enough natural resources to support 6,5 billion people with a high standard of living.

The economic power clique of the West seems to have realized this, judging from internal documents that leaked from the World Bank in recent years. These documents described the process through which the IMF and World Bank crush third world countries economically by extending their loans only after the leaders of the respective countries have accepted secret and very far-reaching policies of privatization and deregulation. [5] The eccentric financial expert Jean-Pierre van Rossem may have said it best:

"The whole third world is indebted to the banks. And it really is the financial power clique that keeps these countries poor. Why does poverty continue? Because it has a purpose." [6]


Membership of the 1001 Club includes:

Abedi, Agha Hasan - founder of the BCCI bank, used by international terrorist organizations and intelligence agencies to run guns, smuggle drugs and launder funds. Connected to Iran-Contra.

Bechtel, Stephen D. - The Bechtel company makes large sums of money from the War on Terror, and was originally slated to build the Iraq pipeline with Saddam back in the 1980s before things went south. Does business with KBR.

Bin Laden, Sheikh Salem - Brother of Osama Bin Laden. Business partner of George W. Bush. Director of the BCCI.

Bloomfield, Louis Mortimer - OSS agent. Founded the company Permindex, which Jim Garrison believed was linked to the JFK assassination.

Ford, Henry, II - chairman of both Chase Manhattan and Ford motor company.

Grace, J. Peter - former director of Citibank, . President and CEO of the chemical giant W.R. Grace & Co., member of the CFR, friend of the Rockefellers and connected to Iran-Contra.


reply posted on 12-12-2009 @ 01:32 PM by Someone336
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Hunt, Nelson Bunker - Texas oil man and founder of Hunt Oil. Notable enemy of the Kennedy's and named as a financier of Permindex. Friend of the Rockefellers.

Kellogg, Francis L. - founder of the World Wildlife Fund with Prince Bernard. Secret CIA operative.

McNamara, Robert Strange - Kennedy's secretery of defense, early advocate of the Vietnam War. President of the World Bank. Has funded enviromental efforts in the UN.

Pahlavi, Mohammad Reza Shah - The Shah of Iran, ousted in the Islamic revolution of 1979.

Rockefeller, David

Rockefeller, Godfrey A.

Rockefeller, Laurance S.

Rothschild, Baron Edmond de

Rothschild, Baroness Edmond de

Rothschild, Edmund L. de

Rothschild, Baroness Guy de


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reply posted on 12-12-2009 @ 02:03 PM by Someone336
reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss



I would say that the system is "Lemon Socialism" - i.e. socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor. The corporate elite must use taxpayer dollars distributed by the government to keep capitalism afloat, while the concepts of free markets is pushed at the struggling lower classes as a messianic savior, despite the it has led to the corporatist model that is operating.

I would also argue that "globalization", or the so-called "world governance" doesn't refer to a literal unified super-state, but a worldwide system dedicated to keeping capitalism afloat. The globalization of capitalism has led the world to the brink of a Global Depression, and with such an interconnected world it would require an interconnected response to the crisis. They'll keep the third world in debt and poverty though. They still need scapegoats for one thing and another and war can be a good financial shot in the arm for some players.

Keep in mind that while grassroots socialist and anarchist movements advocate a global mindset, they are strongly against the IMF, the World Bank, and elitist groups like the 1001 Club pushing for certain policies.

I think both of us agree, however, that when it's these uber-rich capitalists start talking about the "greater good", we can be sure it's pretty much the opposite.


reply posted on 12-12-2009 @ 04:30 PM by Someone336
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How can all these things be KGB if the KGB ceased to be in 1991?

How can all American left wing thought be traced to the KGB when it the ideas of socialism occurred over fifty years prior to the establishment of the KGB?

If George Soros was KGB, then why did he fund the Polish Solidarity movement?




reply posted on 13-12-2009 @ 01:20 PM by EarthCitizen07
People keep saying since the american government is getting involoved in big business it must be socialism. The problem is...


Federal Reserve Bank is a corporation

The USA isn't a country, its a corporation.

Is the Federal Government a corporation?


I have pasted a few other links earlier in the thread but nobody seems to take anything seriously. Since the government is a corporation what does that tell you? It tells me a few rich people own it and are running it as a business...

The EU is also suspect but I am having a hard time digging info on it. Help would be appreciated!

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reply posted on 13-12-2009 @ 03:07 PM by Someone336
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While the EU is a more left-wing model than the United States, it is still bound by global capitalism. It's hard to find in depth info on it, but here is a few pointers:

The development of corporatism on the EU level

“Corporatism, Pluralism and European Integration: The Impact on National Interest Intermediation”

If you want to look at mind-bending aspects of the clandestine movement toward the EU, check out the hyper capitalist international think-tank Le Cercle, and the occult/political ideology of Synarchy, a right-wing model that designed as a reaction to anarchism, based on natural hierarchies.

Viewing society as an organic unity, synarchists aim to a create a synarchy – a harmonious society where a corporatist government defends social differentiation and hierarchy by encouraging collaboration between social classes in order to transcend conflict between social and economic groups. Its critics and opponents argue that synarchism is particularly associated with anti-anarchism, anti-communism, cooptation, elitism, fascism, technocratism, and even occultism, although there exists substantive points of disagreement.


Almost every person essential to the creation of the EU (including of the founder of Le Cercle) and serious proponent of the United Europe ideal has been tied to synarchy.


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 09:29 PM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
What we have here is no different than communism, except there is invented money and mor emobility for elites to posture themselves. You guys are flailing classical anti-corporate pieces around as the final verdict that BOTH socialism and communism is so non-existent we might as well remove them from the history books. If you removed the multinational corporation structure out of the equation there would be nothing left to distinguish it from Sovietism, especially not if the out and open plan finds the success it appears to be right on schedule with.

I appreciate iron out the details for clarity, but you guys have really pushed this beyond clarity in such attempts. The Eurpoean Union et al systems of government reeks so bad in so many ways as the Soviet Union that to focus solely on the economic realities of corporate profits becomes almost irrelevant.

Its a wicked hybrid of the worst parts of the two systems, as I argued early on, and if there still exists fat cats on islands is irrelevant when we're subjects of a centrally controlled communistic global dictatorship.

If anything, you should be glad some parts of the capitalist framework will remain as you might actually win the lotto and get to go to the island. If you're sinister enough, you might even get to crony your way up the ranks in the 'business' side of things. In this 'utopia' you dont only have the route of party loyalty to make it to the top. Talk about mobility! And don't forget, as one of you said, 'Hitler wasn't that bad of a guy'. In this superior system of progress you dont onyl have the route of election rigging to achieve, you also have the option of being a backstabbing theif in order to make it to the top. Note: For a properous position in the new system, never protest against it of you might get added to a list that will limit your social mobility later on in life.

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