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reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 08:57 PM by Majiq

Originally posted by Sean48
48 years old, never knew or heard of anyone going to the States

for medical.

content.healthaffairs.org...

I used a report about people coming from Ontario because they have the best averages as far as wait times.

6 years ago a client gives me a funny look and tells me I have a lump

behind my ear , I make a appointment at my family Doc. He looks me over

sends me to a cancer speacilist the next day . He does a Biopsy , and a

few days later , I'm told the news and to check in on Thurs for a

operation, this was Tuesday. Operated on , had to spend 4 days in

hospital because I had a Tube Draining gross stuff into a bottle. Check out

Tuesday , and JUST TO BE CAREFUL, I do 6 follow up Radiation treatments

I good to go now, WOO HOO.

That is great news, I am happy to hear that all is well with you and that your experience was a pleasant one. Unfortunately there are many who have not shared you good fortune.

One example
www.thestar.com...

O YA Final Cost .......... 48 bucks ( 12 dollars a day TV rental )

Ya we got it bad here

Once again, I have never stated that you are in terrible shape there, and I have never stated that our system was a perfect system. All I have said is that I would prefer to keep our current system, and reform it rather than adopt a socialist system.

reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 12:33 AM by SJE98

Have you guys read the senate bill on this health care reform?
Let me point out something to all of you who think you’re going to be covered in this health Reform Bill

Exemptions. There are religious exemptions for American native Indians. There are exemptions for people experiencing (financial hardship.) If people who are experiencing financial hardship are exempt from having to buy insurance, then how does this health bill cover the uninsured.

We are told that most people are uninsured 'cause they can't afford it. So what does this bill actually accomplish. Nothing, It just forces you \ them to buy insurance. If you don’t have the money to buy insurance you get an exemption for a financial hardship. Thus you also don’t get health insurance either and, you’re not covered. So how is this Health Care Reform a good thing. Harry Reid even said that there will still be millions of Americans that won’t be covered. It's going to more than a few million during these hard times. It’s time to kick this bill out and the people wrote it. We need to get a real health care bill passed. Not this kind of BS.

I hope you are all healthy and not out of a job 4 years from now.

[edit on 23-12-2009 by SJE98]

reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 08:01 AM by JohnnyCanuck

reply to post by stereovoyaged

You know what? Free health care is awesome! Of course it isn't free, but the way in which it is provided makes it feel like it.

Now one must consider, given all of the debate about health care going on down south, those five words that head this thread have got to be setting off alarm bells on K Street.

Here, on a predominately American site, are a group of fairly intelligent people who tend to think outside of the box...and they are being exposed to those five words: "Free Health Care is Awesome!!!", without the benefit of filtration through American media. No Glenn or Wolf to persuade them that Canadians are beating down American doors to try to find adequate treatment that doesn't exist in their Pink Paradise. And that is a threat worth literally billions of dollars.

Because, some of y'all simply aren't drinking the koolaide.

Which is why a number of us have been playing whack-a-mole with posters that pop up, provide the same list of right wing canards as their fellows...dictates that are generated by like-minded folks (or employers) to convince Americans that they cannot have what most of the rest of us do...and even so, they wouldn't like it very much.

Big Health would be foolish if it didn't, and luckily their source material is limited, so that when it hits the ATS bloodstream, it's pretty recognisable as just more propaganda. But presented by new shills...sorry...ATS members.

You see it follows a pattern...thread is launched, whether intentionally provocative or not...these gadflies come out...cite lobbyists, right-wing think tanks and biased sources...try to apply a Bravo Sierra-bludgeon to the issue of Universal Health Care...keep it up to the point of imbecility (you can't know what you are experiencing because I read different on the net!).

And when they reach the point of total incredulity and catch on that they are doing their own cause more harm than good...gadflies disappear. For now.

Lotta one trick ponies out there.

Well, excuse my musings...but free health care is awesome, and anybody who says otherwise has his eyes on your wallet...not your health.

[edit on 23-12-2009 by JohnnyCanuck]

reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 08:31 AM by Sean48

Originally posted by Majiq

Once again, I have never stated that you are in terrible shape there, and I have never stated that our system was a perfect system. All I have said is that I would prefer to keep our current system, and reform it rather than adopt a socialist system.

A interesting thread on the boards recently by David176 was quoting

children Food Stamp use was at 50% (1 in2).

Sounds a Tad bit Socialist there ??

But no money there , so Pharma and Insurance don't mind that

form of Socialism

reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 09:43 AM by stereovoyaged

I see it day in and day out. I am a Canadian but my job is the administration of health benefits for an American Company, GE. We JUST finished open enrollment so all these figures are still in my head quite well. And i'm sorry, but a pre 65 retiree whose pension is 25k, paying 1100/mth in premiums is crazy. Unacceptable

reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 06:54 PM by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by stereovoyaged
I see it day in and day out. I am a Canadian but my job is the administration of health benefits for an American Company, GE. We JUST finished open enrollment so all these figures are still in my head quite well. And i'm sorry, but a pre 65 retiree whose pension is 25k, paying 1100/mth in premiums is crazy. Unacceptable

Sorry Dude, I think you had better track down some of these links being offered up, because according to them, that system beats the snot out of ours. Where do you gonna put your faith? In your own feeble observations or in what 'some guy on the net' said. You know, if it's on the Interweb, it's gotta be true!

Merry Christmas to all those hardy folks on the Rock.

And stay off of George Street!

reply posted on 24-12-2009 @ 10:52 PM by stereovoyaged

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

Merry Christmas to you too my friend and no worries, no George St. for me this xmas, I am in Gander with my family for the holidays. Back to the city on Saturday.

reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 05:20 AM by magnetic

Free healthcare - only a radically bad idea if you represent a vested interest who thinks they may lose money. Not a radical idea in Britain, though. Give me the 'communist' NHS any day!

www.thedailymash.co.uk...

reply posted on 12-1-2010 @ 02:40 PM by NoHierarchy