Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Would you please allow me to comment on whatever i like?
No, because it wasnt you who said it. You are putting words in another persons mouth. I cant believe that is even debatable. Common sense goes a long
Again you stated that 80% are happy yet that poll only included those with private insurance or those on medicade. It was not a slice of the
population, it was biased. How about we quote the resst of your little article shall we?
Americans are broadly satisfied with the quality of their own medical care and healthcare costs, but of the two, satisfaction with costs lags.
Overall, 80% are satisfied with the quality of medical care available to them, including 39% who are very satisfied. Sixty-one percent are satisfied
with the cost of their medical care, including 20% who are very satisfied.
There is a clear gulf in these perceptions between the health insurance haves and have-nots. According to a Sept. 11-13 USA Today/Gallup poll, the
85% of Americans with health insurance coverage are broadly satisfied with the quality of medical care they receive and with their healthcare costs.
At 79%, satisfaction with costs among Medicare/Medicaid recipients is particularly high.
The 15% who are uninsured are far less satisfied with the quality of their medical care (50% are satisfied), and only 27% are satisfied with their
healthcare costs. (Sixty-nine percent are dissatisfied with their costs.)
If that source is not good enough here is another...
You dont' understand profit margins it seems. A company requiring profit means that the costs for the consumer go up or the vlume of sales go
up. As they cannot control the volume they have to cut costs, refuse care where they can and put up the costs of medicines. Oh wait what am i doing
the article you linked even says this!
No one is refused care in this nation. People who are considered walking liabilities have a harder time getting coverage, but this is a minuscule
problem, and they are not not cared for if they have a health problem.
The second pressing reason for health care reform is spiraling costs, a fact upon which insurers, physicians, hospitals and government all agree.
It's been well reported that, as a percent of GDP, the U.S. spends significantly more than comparable nations - around 16% to Sweden or Italy's 9%,
or France's 11%.
Costs are a problem. TORT reform would help this area. As well as doing away with certain liabilities on the physician. Allowing insurance companies
to compete across state lines would also greatly reduce the costs, as competition between insurance companies would force the price down. Much like
Ouch so market competition hasn't reduced the costs in your country but the socialised system in other countries has led to lower costs.
Because insurance companies are not allowed to compete across state lines. Make it more competitive and the costs of insurance would reduce
substantially. Making it affordable to low income earners. And the slow lumbering Federal government is not going to fix this, the government has
broken everything it has ran...POST OFFICE, AMTRAK MEDICAID, MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY etc, have all been ran into the ground. The federal government
has bankrupt all these industries. Yet we are to somehow expect a different outcome if the government runs 1/6th of our entire economy?
We have many problems i absolutely agree but healthcare is not one of them. Oh it has it's problems, just like any system in this world but
it's far superior to the profit driven system you have. Our system is care driven.
Your system is bankrupt, and without reform of its own, will collapse. And as for "care" driven, you do have waiting lines...you also have a
shortage of doctors. This is what your "superior" system has created. It can take weeks to recieve an operation, whereas it can take mere hours, or
days depending on the severity of the issue. Hell, we have canadians comeing to the US to get operations, just so they do not have to wait weeks for
their "free" operation in Canada.
The american system has better care, and better medical technology. When world leaders need an operation, they come to the US. When athletes from
other parts of the world need an operation, they come to the US. Not the UK...or europa.
You know i've used the NHS for years and it has not encroached upon my life. I am able to demand which doctor i see, i am able to demand tests
of all kinds, i get to spend plenty of my time with my doctor and generally the system has been good. As for government monopolies well i'm afraid
that is utter nonsense. A private system exists for things like cosmetic surgery and hey if you really don't like the NHS you can still go private.
The difference? Better hospital food and fluffier pillows
Good for you! I mean that. If you are happy with it, thats fine. But there are those who are not. And then there are those who do not want this, and
see this as an infringement on their rights and freedoms.
Health care systems where the government controls the industry and prohibits competition is a government run monopoly. What the current bill in the US
would do, is create competition at first, but would soon make everyone buy into the system, as insurers would be unable to compete with the
government, who has the taxpayer money behind them.
Our people can afford our system, it works, we are still using it, people still have their operations, my own father was in hospital this month and
was treated brilliantly.
The UK system is starting to collapse? Really? So after the previous recession years back, which was far worse it is suddenly collapsing. You
sir/madam are completely ignorant of our system, it's politics and the financial situation the UK is currently in.
Your system has healthcare rationing, survival rates, and waiting lines are not the best, and are infact worse than that of the US. Times are not good
in the UK. Upon all that, your nation was in the worst shape of any other G20 nation going into this recession, and it is far from over. There will be
another recession in 2011 that many ppl are starting to forecast. expect things to get considerably worse.
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