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Topic started on 9-12-2009 @ 06:21 AM by peponastick

Swat team removes man from home after bar fight


www.wsbt.com
Using loudspeakers, police attempted to rouse Coffey out of the home, and by 8 a.m., officers from Mishawaka and St. Joseph County’s SWAT teams had arrived at the scene.

Shortly after 9 a.m., a team of SWAT officers, using a flash grenade, swarmed the home and removed Coffey, the house’s only occupant.

Capt. Mike Grzegorek, the assistant commander of the Metro Homicide Unit and the commander of the SWAT team, said Coffey was found sleeping on a mattress in the front room of the house and offered no resistance.
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reply posted on 9-12-2009 @ 07:52 AM by ThePeoplesSoldier
reply to post by peponastick



"Two hours later, however, police were called to the hospital, where it was reported that the 52-year-old was now in critical condition "

So let me get this straight you people are going to defend the actions of somone that put this 52 year old man in a position fighting for his life? Give me a freaking break! It wasnt like the police abused this guy! They attempted to get him to come out peacfully, he didn't. They dont know if hes in there sleeping or in there with a shot gun pointed at the door! They flashbanged to disable but it didnt have any effect due to the fact he was sleeping, SO THEY ARESSTED HIM! Oh my god stop the presses, the constitution is being ignored... I dont think so. This was mearly a man that was a threat to society BECAUSE HE ALMOST KILLED SOMONE that needed to be put behind bars... End of story.


reply posted on 9-12-2009 @ 08:45 AM by peponastick
reply to post by ThePeoplesSoldier



Maybe thats the way you see it....I wasn't defending what the man did. I was simply stating the way in which the police choose to handle the matter.

And if you read closely you will see the man fell and hit his head resulting the critical condition you so elequently pointed out.

I would never put "END OF STORY" at the end of my opinion...some peoples arrogance never ceases to amaze me.


reply posted on 9-12-2009 @ 08:56 AM by CoffinFeeder
reply to post by ThePeoplesSoldier



read the story again. they just wanted to round him up to be questioned by investigators.

I have to wonder, did anyone bother to look in the windows, or did they all just want to stand 50 feet back and yell at the guy?



reply posted on 9-12-2009 @ 11:06 AM by marg6043
reply to post by SyphonX



Two hours late? hey they need all that time to put on their fancy garbs before showing up, can you imagine they have to be looking good for the local news.




reply posted on 9-12-2009 @ 11:18 AM by Miraj
reply to post by ThePeoplesSoldier



Are you kidding? He didn't come out because he was asleep.

Nobodies defending the actions of the guy, but we're criticizing the idea that a SWAT team is needed to detain some guy sleeping on a bed.



reply posted on 9-12-2009 @ 11:23 AM by jam321
reply to post by Aggie Man



That's the absolute truth. Here in TX I many, many times I see 2 or more police vehicles pulled on the side of the road that have stopped to assist in a simple traffic violation.


Don't forget to count the other 2 or 3 vehicles roaming the area.

Guess better safe than sorry.

Don't feel SWAT was necessary. Whether they apprehend him today or tomorrow he is still in the same heap of trouble.

[edit on 9-12-2009 by jam321]


reply posted on 9-12-2009 @ 11:33 AM by elevatedone
A 52-year-old man is in critical condition


According to police reports, Lewis told officers that he didn’t want to press charges for the fight, and officers left him at the hospital.

Two hours later, however, police were called to the hospital, where it was reported that the 52-year-old was now in critical condition.

The severity of Lewis’ injuries led police to contact St. Joseph County Metro Homicide investigators, who took over the investigation and began searching for Coffey.

Police found Coffey’s car at his home in the 800 block of Berlin Avenue in Mishawaka.

Using loudspeakers, police attempted to rouse Coffey out of the home, and by 8 a.m., officers from Mishawaka and St. Joseph County’s SWAT teams had arrived at the scene.



But Coffey is no stranger to jail or fighting.

In 2008, Coffey was charged with attempted theft, battery and criminal mischief after a taxi driver said he had been punched in the face.

Officers then went to Coffey's home and knocked. He eventually answered. Police say he had a "crazed" look in his eyes, describing them as "wide opening without blinking." He fought officers as he was being physically restrained and taken to jail.

Coffey later pleaded guilty to the theft as a felony, and as part of the agreement, the other counts were dropped. He was sentenced to two years, which was all suspended and ordered to serve the time on probation.

Officers then went to Coffey's home and knocked. He eventually answered. Police say he had a "crazed" look in his eyes, describing them as "wide opening without blinking." He fought officers as he was being physically restrained and taken to jail.





Always interesting what you'll find when you read the whole story.

Repeat offender. Throw the book at him. Cops did nothing wrong.


reply posted on 9-12-2009 @ 11:39 AM by Moonsouljah
reply to post by Autarchic



Regarding that, I'm always amazed at the ratio polls of Americans who favor "Security" over their own freedom-usually around 50% I think. I consider this and realize these people who would willing trade their liberty for "Security" walk among me on a daily basis. They experience the same things I do and yet think so differently- or less.

Fear is really an incredible thing. It may just be the main driver behind social and interpersonal exchanges in our societies and much of natures throughout the ages. Woah.


reply posted on 9-12-2009 @ 11:41 AM by richierich
This is a sickening abuse of power by scumbag cops. Get a load of this; There was NO WARRANT...There are NO charges..and the article says that:

"Grzegorek said Coffey was taken from the home to the Metro Homicide Unit office to be questioned by investigators.

As of Tuesday night, Coffey had not been charged with any crimes but remained in the St. Joseph County Jail, pending the filing of charges.
"

WHAT the hell?? Taken from your home...without a warrant..then dragged to the homicide unit for ' questioning'..as if the guy had some legal imperative to answer anything without a lawyer present..then, to make it even worse, the man is locked up in jail PENDINg the filing of any charges!! Just throw the citizen in jail...so you can take as long getting charges together...how much more blatant does illegal cop actions get?

NO WARRANT...No evidence of any emergency, so NO excuse from the cops about it being necessary to storm a home with incendiary devices and explosives without a warrant...they simply had NO PROBABLE CAUSE..so they just do it anyway!!

This is a case where the cops should be sued for all they have and ever will have..they violated this mans rights terribly. Imagine falling alseep and having SWAT thug cops expode charges in your home to wake you up!! Cops in this day and age are so scared..so weak..so sissified that they cannot simply walk up and knock on the door...no answer? GET A WARRANT!! then open the door and wake the man up...NOT explode ordinance because you are so scared..cops pee their britches at the mere thought of actually having to get down..what a pathetic bunch!!

So, NO warrant.....NO charges...thrown in jail without charges...a home stormed and violated...the man is probably in critical condition because of the cop assaults...if he had hit his head ' falling' it would have been apparent from the get go and not discovered much later...the coppers no doubt injured the man while waking him up...he gave NO RESISTANCE, according to the story.

these stories make me sick...cops with no legal authority...no warrants..storming a home with far too much force..then throwing a citizen in jail before any charges!! WTF??!! Would YOU sit still and take it if some cops threw YOu in jail without charges after storming your abode WITHOUT a warrant?

I can only hope that the man who was violated by the thug cops gets a lawyer that will SUE them for all they have...sue 'em in Federal court...and in state court..get damages and ruin the cops lives who made these horrible decisions. Who was the copper that directed the others to:

1. Violate the Constitution and state laws by NOT securing a warrant based on probable cause before storming a private home?

2. Violate the Constitution and state laws by taking a citizen away for ' questioning' , like some Soviet or Nazi would, with NO mention of any rights being advised or an attorney being called to protect the man FROM the cops? it is NOT legal for cops to drag us away to ' question ' us, unless we WANT to talk...the cops want to force us to talk...keep us away from a lawyer...and that is a fact. Cops HATE for a person to refuse to talk and demand a lawyer...and that says all we need to know about cops.

3. Jailing a citizen WITHOUT charges...the citizen I suppose just sits in a cell while the cops try and figure out what to do...guess what? The cops are supposed to do the investigating BEFORE throwing people in jail...NOT throw them in jail and then take their sweet time getting a case together.

This is a textbook case of abuse of police power...and I hope that all involved get reamed by the courts after a lawsuit shows the blatantly illegal actions by the cops.

Now, lets hear the lame excuses from the cop groupies about how it is OK to forget about warrants and how it is Ok to jail the UN charged people..and why it is fine to storm a home and use violence against a citizen without any reason based on facts.
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