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Spectacular Phenomena In The Sky. What Is It?

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posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:05 PM
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Good evidence imho. the rocket is rotating like a bullet from a rifled barrel, not tumbling out of failure. Maybe a jet that causes the rotation leaves this spiral trail.

Hey I am open to other ideas, but the rocket seems very plausible.




posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:06 PM
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I've been reading this off and on all day and I find it very interesting. I'm about 20 pages behind at this point however.

I won't chime in with some theory, but I am leaning towards the camp that thinks this is more than a simple rocket launch.

That effect at the supposed end of it is so strange. I would love to hear more about whatever that was.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by SweetRevenge
That effect at the supposed end of it is so strange. I would love to hear more about whatever that was.


I agree, It looks like it's being pushed apart by radio waves. (However far fetched that may be)

[edit on 9-12-2009 by aninchoftime]



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:09 PM
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Failed Russian missile visible over Northern Norway
2009-12-09

Light seen from Kvænangen in Troms at 07.49 Wednesday morning (Photo Dagfinn Rapp)

UPDATED: This unique photo taken in Northern Norway shows a Russian intercontinental missile flying into a spiral before it exploded in the atmosphare early Wednesday morning. The missile was most likely yet another failed test launch of a Bulava missile from the Typhoon submarine "Dmitri Donskoy" in the White Sea area.

www.barentsobserver.com...

One thing to remember is that it is near the artic, the sun only rises to the horizon. This happened almost at 8:00 AM When the suspended ice crystals in the atmosphere and fuel vapor are hit by the Sun because of the altitude, many effects can happen. The spiral photos were taken with a slow shutter speed.



[edit on 9/12/09 by spirit_horse]



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:10 PM
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Is it possible that the center of the spiral is a full moon and the spiral is just an illusion or reflection? Maybe the blue beam is a satellite or some other man-made space object crashing through the atmosphere and the brighter point at the ground is an impact? Oh and what if the blue is created by the extreme heat of the thing re-entering our atmosphere or by something in the object vaporizing or burning or something?



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by spirit_horse
Failed Russian missile visible over Northern Norway
2009-12-09

Light seen from Kvænangen in Troms at 07.49 Wednesday morning (Photo Dagfinn Rapp)

UPDATED: This unique photo taken in Northern Norway shows a Russian intercontinental missile flying into a spiral before it exploded in the atmosphare early Wednesday morning. The missile was most likely yet another failed test launch of a Bulava missile from the Typhoon submarine "Dmitri Donskoy" in the White Sea area.

www.barentsobserver.com...


You should have gone back and read. That image, and larger, higher quality versions have been posted Several times.

The part you have to pay attention to in this article:
"The missile was most likely yet another..."



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:12 PM
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I think this is a goverment operation so that tommorow's media will not cover the question of " does Obama deserve the nobel peace prize" it's quite obvious that the illuminati did this. Otherwise the mainstream media
would not be so likely to cover it

They want to make Obama seem godly or something, and if it isn't Obama,

then I can only hope it's the white hats doing something to make people pay attention to Copenhagen and what's going on with the climate treaty



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Pocky
reply to post by Hellmutt
 


I think this is a goverment operation so that tommorow's media will not cover the question of " does Obama deserve the nobel peace prize" it's quite obvious that the illuminati did this. Otherwise the mainstream media
would not be so likely to cover it

They want to make Obama seem godly or something, and if it isn't Obama,

then I can only hope it's the white hats doing something to make people pay attention to Copenhagen and what's going on with the climate treaty


You really think this has ANYTHING to do with the arbitrary talking head in the American government?

And wow.. Nevermind.. You consider environmental activists motivated enough to build an array of equipment that can manipulate the atmosphere? Pass some of that stuff, pal..



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:18 PM
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Does anyone know where and when the navtex message comes from?

How could someone have intercepted that?

[edit on 9-12-2009 by np6888]



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:18 PM
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This has to be the singlemost non stealthy, most visually conspicuous rocket ever made - IF it is such. Personally, I'd prefer exploring other options before jumping onto the one that's offered so quickly. Remember the Phoenix military spin as well as Stephenville and how fast they sought to "spin" that one.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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Norway (NATO) should according to agreement be informed of such launches to avoid misunderstandings.


Yes they are warned...every ship near that part of the world was warned... ahead of time. NAVTEX:

from page 4 of this thread.





Originally posted by spirit_horse
Notification of the Russian rocket launch on Navtex.

Tipper at den raketten har eksplodert, og spiralen vi ser er resterende drivstoffet reflektert av sollyset... Tipper that the rocket has exploded, and the spiral we are seeing is residual fuel reflected by sunlight ...

ZCZC FA79 ZCZC FA79
031230 UTC DEC 09 031230 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94 COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC 1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC 0600 TO 08 DEC
09 DC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900 09 DC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA
65-12.6N 036-37.0E 65-37.2N 036-26.0E 65-12.6N 036-37.0E 65-37.2N 036-26.0E
66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E 66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E 66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E 65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
2. 2. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 101000 DEC= CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 101000 DEC =
NNNN NNNN

- John Henrik Guttorm (35) fra Karasjok - John Henry Guttorm (35) from Karasjok
From here:translate.google.com... 0%26kommune%3D0%26start%3D0&sl=no&tl=en&swap=1



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:20 PM
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This is the US Site, but there are site around the world. I'll try to find the one it came from again.

www.navcen.uscg.gov...

NAVTEX Message Selection
Every NAVTEX message is preceded by a four character header B(1)B(2)B(3)B(4). B(1) is an alpha character identifying the station, and B(2) is an alpha character used to identify the subject of the message. Receivers use these characters to reject messages from stations or concerning subjects of no interest to the user. B(3)B(4) are two-digit numerics identifying individual messages, used by receivers to keep already received messages from being repeated. For example, a message preceded by the characters FE01 from a U.S. NAVTEX Station indicate that this is a weather forecast message from Boston MA.



[edit on 9/12/09 by spirit_horse]



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by Pocky
reply to post by Hellmutt
 


I think this is a goverment operation so that tommorow's media will not cover the question of " does Obama deserve the nobel peace prize" it's quite obvious that the illuminati did this. Otherwise the mainstream media
would not be so likely to cover it

They want to make Obama seem godly or something, and if it isn't Obama,

then I can only hope it's the white hats doing something to make people pay attention to Copenhagen and what's going on with the climate treaty



So iif it's white hats, that must mean 33rd degree Masons ! They wear white hats ! I knew it I knew it ! They're in cahoots !



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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I'm still not buying the rocket story at the moment.
If it was a rocket wouldn't these "baffled" scientist and astronomers say "yes its only a rocket"??



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:22 PM
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I think he mentioned that the Norwegians were warned. However, he also said that the Swedish government needed to be warned too, and they were not(and have not admitted it.)



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:23 PM
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here is some info on receiving NAVTEX
www.beaconworld.org.uk...

I use to use an old Bell teletype to receive it..but that was a few decades ago



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:24 PM
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Hmm, it's kind of convenient that the guy who admitted that he was warned also gave us the message. Shouldn't this be top-secret?



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:24 PM
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Just to add fuel to the fire because its interesting.



The EISCAT notes for 1/3 yesterday :

Schedule Notes Viewer Vn 1.1.1.1
VHF: TEQUILA 2009 12 08 0700 - 2009 12 08 1000
Scheduled for 0700-1000

EQUILAsunrise (Transient Effects Quantification Under Ionospheric Low Angle sunrise). The idea is to
look at the polar wintertime mesophere through the transient
caused by (scattered) sunrise around 8 UT. Interestingly, this happens to
be the maximum occurence time of the Polar Mesosphere Winter Echoes (PMWE).



by Antti Kero / Markus Rapp



Markus Rapp is a german based scientist with experince with sounding rockets, and lidars amongst other things. sciencewatch.com...

Antti Kero has a paper published spirals (self-contained and homogeneous) on the surface of the ball. translate.google.ca...://physics.oulu.fi/ftp/personal/kero/laskfys1.doc&ei=dUAgS5CNBYj_nQft-JnWDQ&sa=X&oi=translate&c t=result&resnum=5&ved=0CB8Q7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DAntti%2BKero%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG






maybe someone can phone them up and ask: +358442894669



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by spirit_horse
reply to post by np6888
 

This is the US Site, but there are site around the world. I'll try to find the one it came from again.

www.navcen.uscg.gov...

NAVTEX Message Selection
Every NAVTEX message is preceded by a four character header B(1)B(2)B(3)B(4). B(1) is an alpha character identifying the station, and B(2) is an alpha character used to identify the subject of the message. Receivers use these characters to reject messages from stations or concerning subjects of no interest to the user. B(3)B(4) are two-digit numerics identifying individual messages, used by receivers to keep already received messages from being repeated. For example, a message preceded by the characters FE01 from a U.S. NAVTEX Station indicate that this is a weather forecast message from Boston MA.



[edit on 9/12/09 by spirit_horse]


Is it not interesting that none of these news sources or scientists even make mention of the NAVTEX message? Why has the Russian Navy vehemently denied any rocket launches?



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by wtfhuh
Just to add fuel to the fire because its interesting.



The EISCAT notes for 1/3 yesterday :

Schedule Notes Viewer Vn 1.1.1.1
VHF: TEQUILA 2009 12 08 0700 - 2009 12 08 1000
Scheduled for 0700-1000

EQUILAsunrise (Transient Effects Quantification Under Ionospheric Low Angle sunrise). The idea is to
look at the polar wintertime mesophere through the transient
caused by (scattered) sunrise around 8 UT. Interestingly, this happens to
be the maximum occurence time of the Polar Mesosphere Winter Echoes (PMWE).



by Antti Kero / Markus Rapp



Markus Rapp is a german based scientist with experince with sounding rockets, and lidars amongst other things. sciencewatch.com...

Antti Kero has a paper published spirals (self-contained and homogeneous) on the surface of the ball. translate.google.ca...://physics.oulu.fi/ftp/personal/kero/laskfys1.doc&ei=dUAgS5CNBYj_nQft-JnWDQ&sa=X&oi=translate&c t=result&resnum=5&ved=0CB8Q7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DAntti%2BKero%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG






maybe someone can phone them up and ask: +358442894669



I think I love you... This is exactly what I've been pursuing, but they've kept this information out of sight!


I will be following this as close as ever.



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