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Secret Space Fleet Video - Gary McKinnon Was Right!

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posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 03:50 AM
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I doubt the delta craft that shows up around 4:40 is a space fleet.

It looks like a single aircraft.

The lighting configuration is strange.

*I wonder what Plasma Actuators would look like through night-vision goggles.








Plasma Actuators:

AFRL is laying the groundwork to develop revolutionary hypersonic aerospace vehicles. Researchers are examining the feasibility of replacing traditional mechanical actuators, which move like wing flaps to control an air vehicle’s flight control surfaces, with plasma actuators that require no moving parts and are more reliable.

As part of the Boundary Layers and Hypersonics program, AFRL conducted a wind tunnel test to evaluate the feasibility of using plasma actuators for airframe flight control. In AFRL’s Mach 5 Plasma Channel wind tunnel, engineers used a strong electric field to ionize air around an air vehicle model to create plasma. The plasma-heated air successfully exerted force on the model and demonstrated that the plasma actuator concept is a viable area for further study and development. The program focuses on characterizing, predicting, and controlling high-speed fluid dynamic phenomena, including boundary layer transition; shock/boundary layer and shock/shock interactions; and other airframe propulsion integration phenomena such as real-gas effects, plasma aerodynamics, magneto-hydrodynamics, and high-speed flow heat transfer.

(Mr. R. Kimmel, AFRL/VAAA, (937) 656-7868)




More on Plasma Actuators:
www.thelivingmoon.com...



But what if it is a formation (I doubt that) - how could that be accomplished without placing the pilots in danger? Perhaps the planes don't have any pilots


Maybe what we are seeing is the swarm control and coordination technology come to fruition and being tested with UAV's...




Get doc here:

'Model-based Swarm Control of Unmanned Ground Vehicles' (but it also covers Air Vehicles...)
Lookahead Decisions Inc.
www.scs.org...


Another interesting paper on swarm control and coordination is this one:

SWARMING COORDINATION OF MULTIPLE UAV’S FOR COLLABORATIVE SENSING
www.newvectors.net...





Abstract:

Some imaging tasks and modalities (e.g., interferomet-ric SAR) require managing a dynamic spatio-temporal configuration of sensors (whether electro-optic or RF) over a wide area. One promising approach is to mount each sensor on a separate unpiloted vehicle, and endow the population of such vehicles with the ability to con-figure themselves and coordinate their actions to create and maintain the required sensor configuration. This paper describes some scenarios where such a capability would be useful, identifies technical issues that need to be addressed, suggests general principles and techniques that we have found useful in dealing with such scenarios, and describes a specific example that we have constructed and tested in a simulation environment.




Issues:
Coordinating multiple UAV’s for such sensing scenar-ios requires spatial and temporal coordination and the alignment of distinct roles within the team. Spatial co-ordination distributes units over the area being ob-served, and includes such tasks as determining the maximum spread between vehicles and the minimum acceptable number of revisits per unit area, assigning sectors to each unit, causing a team to converge in a specific location, or stationing UAV’s in a particular formation. Temporal coordination ensures that all UAV’s act at the right time or with the right frequency, provide their input at the right moment, and assume their designated locations and operating roles at the right time for the constellation to work as a whole. Team co-ordination seeks to optimize the assignment of individual vehicles to roles in terms of their preferences or con-straints (e.g., the configuration of individual vehicles), managing the formation, coordination, maintenance, and dispersion of groups of vehicles.

Conventional (non-autonomous) approaches require humans to fly each UAV. This approach is costly both in terms of manpower and (since all communications must go through the control center) bandwidth, and in addition can be a difficult cognitive task. Autonomous coordination among the aircraft permits the use of local nearest-neighbor communications (reducing band-width), and our experiments show that simple local algorithms can yield robust self-organization sufficient to satisfy these missions.





*But then there is the possibility that this delta-formation is a single aircraft with unusual lighting - but caused by what, lights? or maybe the new plasma actuators?






[edit on 10-12-2009 by Exuberant1]




posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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The link isn't
working for me.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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Yeah. I noticed that the first video that I put up in the original post has now been removed by the owner. The link to the second video still works (at least for the time being). Here it is. Hope it works for you.






[edit on 10-12-2009 by gazerstar]



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by Le Colonel

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by gazerstar
 

The sequence at 4:33 is stolen and the audio is dubbed. The original video has been discussed at length on ATS several times and it was shown on UFO Hunters. I think it may be a tight formation of aircraft. There is a tanker squadron based near Fremont.

[edit on 12/9/2009 by Phage]


The same person that filmed it could have removed the audio and put up the video earlier on, then released this "newer" video with audio intact.
im just saying.

on the craft:
i am not a video expert but that does not look like craft flying in formation. Im pretty sure that i see a triangle outline just outside the bright lights against the stars. I have no video software, nor am i inclined to teach myself and download software for this. maybe someone with knowledge would like to take a crack at it.


I totally agree with you That triangle formation isn't a formation. For one there is no reason for the military to fly in that tight of a formation at those speeds. Two, did you see how quickly that "formation" moved at different angles of attack/direction. That isn't possible for a handful of planes in formation to move at the exact time at the exact rate of pull without any break in formation. Then three, THE SPEED. It was going to damn fast for it to be a group of craft. Phage is right where this is another video, but it's the same Alien craft (either earth or true alien). That reminded me of just one craft moving real fast, faster than anything we know off. Also it moved like it didn't have a care in the world to G forces. If a plane changed direction that quickly, the individuals wouldn't be able to take it (irregardless tot he G force flight suits that fighter pilots wear for dog fighting) and also the aircraft that we have in the public would have been torn apart from the g forces on the structures. If it wasn't an alien craft, my guess is that it was the TR-3B craft. It's an advanced spy/survelliance/reverse engineered craft that disrupts gravity by using a plasma field that rotates under pressure around the cabin in order to reduce the weight of the craft and also make it possible for the crew to have really no problem with g forces that would squash them flat.

www.preclear.net...



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
I doubt the delta craft that shows up around 4:40 is a space fleet.

It looks like a single aircraft.

The lighting configuration is strange.

*I wonder what Plasma Actuators would look like through night-vision goggles.








Plasma Actuators:

AFRL is laying the groundwork to develop revolutionary hypersonic aerospace vehicles. Researchers are examining the feasibility of replacing traditional mechanical actuators, which move like wing flaps to control an air vehicle’s flight control surfaces, with plasma actuators that require no moving parts and are more reliable.

As part of the Boundary Layers and Hypersonics program, AFRL conducted a wind tunnel test to evaluate the feasibility of using plasma actuators for airframe flight control. In AFRL’s Mach 5 Plasma Channel wind tunnel, engineers used a strong electric field to ionize air around an air vehicle model to create plasma. The plasma-heated air successfully exerted force on the model and demonstrated that the plasma actuator concept is a viable area for further study and development. The program focuses on characterizing, predicting, and controlling high-speed fluid dynamic phenomena, including boundary layer transition; shock/boundary layer and shock/shock interactions; and other airframe propulsion integration phenomena such as real-gas effects, plasma aerodynamics, magneto-hydrodynamics, and high-speed flow heat transfer.

(Mr. R. Kimmel, AFRL/VAAA, (937) 656-7868)




More on Plasma Actuators:
www.thelivingmoon.com...



But what if it is a formation (I doubt that) - how could that be accomplished without placing the pilots in danger? Perhaps the planes don't have any pilots


Maybe what we are seeing is the swarm control and coordination technology come to fruition and being tested with UAV's...




Get doc here:

'Model-based Swarm Control of Unmanned Ground Vehicles' (but it also covers Air Vehicles...)
Lookahead Decisions Inc.
www.scs.org...


Another interesting paper on swarm control and coordination is this one:

SWARMING COORDINATION OF MULTIPLE UAV’S FOR COLLABORATIVE SENSING
www.newvectors.net...





Abstract:

Some imaging tasks and modalities (e.g., interferomet-ric SAR) require managing a dynamic spatio-temporal configuration of sensors (whether electro-optic or RF) over a wide area. One promising approach is to mount each sensor on a separate unpiloted vehicle, and endow the population of such vehicles with the ability to con-figure themselves and coordinate their actions to create and maintain the required sensor configuration. This paper describes some scenarios where such a capability would be useful, identifies technical issues that need to be addressed, suggests general principles and techniques that we have found useful in dealing with such scenarios, and describes a specific example that we have constructed and tested in a simulation environment.




Issues:
Coordinating multiple UAV’s for such sensing scenar-ios requires spatial and temporal coordination and the alignment of distinct roles within the team. Spatial co-ordination distributes units over the area being ob-served, and includes such tasks as determining the maximum spread between vehicles and the minimum acceptable number of revisits per unit area, assigning sectors to each unit, causing a team to converge in a specific location, or stationing UAV’s in a particular formation. Temporal coordination ensures that all UAV’s act at the right time or with the right frequency, provide their input at the right moment, and assume their designated locations and operating roles at the right time for the constellation to work as a whole. Team co-ordination seeks to optimize the assignment of individual vehicles to roles in terms of their preferences or con-straints (e.g., the configuration of individual vehicles), managing the formation, coordination, maintenance, and dispersion of groups of vehicles.

Conventional (non-autonomous) approaches require humans to fly each UAV. This approach is costly both in terms of manpower and (since all communications must go through the control center) bandwidth, and in addition can be a difficult cognitive task. Autonomous coordination among the aircraft permits the use of local nearest-neighbor communications (reducing band-width), and our experiments show that simple local algorithms can yield robust self-organization sufficient to satisfy these missions.





*But then there is the possibility that this delta-formation is a single aircraft with unusual lighting - but caused by what, lights? or maybe the new plasma actuators?






[edit on 10-12-2009 by Exuberant1]


You are correct about he Plasma Actuators. A friend of mine told me how at Rose Hulman Institute of Technology in Terre Haute Indiana that he had a few friends that said they where doing research (this was back in 1995) on using Plasma as wings for aircrafts and it would change depending on what the pilot wanted. As soon as you brought that up, it hit me. Also here's something else that you and others should know. Did any of you watch the season premier of StarGate Universe a month ago. Well they recruited this young man to help them because in a game that the military/govt. developed in secret he was able to figure out a unique set of clues and equations that had stumped the scientists. I think this actually happens and it's quietly done. The reason is (is there any college physic majors out here) is that a guy on my floor was getting his BS in Physics at the time and I saw some of his work. There was one problem I noticed on his take home test that talked about how a particle acts inside a force field. I don't remember anymore (it was over 10 years ago), but that part stuck out to me. WE HAVE FORCE FIELDS? I think that they use the universities as a way to research problems without telling the whole story to the students.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 03:58 AM
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Maybe you should ask him out!


lol

3rd line



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 09:06 AM
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Of course we have force fields. Not like those envisioned by science fiction authors, yet, but yes force fields exist. A plasma force field is most wonderful. Think of spacecraft windows, for example. A plasma window for spacecraft would much better than what we are currently using if we could engineer a 100% reliable power source for it. A charged plasma sheath would be excellent for protecting the craft as well. But to answer your statement, yes, force fields exist.



Originally posted by hoghead cheeseWE HAVE FORCE FIELDS?



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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Is there a total list naming the officers, ship names, crew, etc. described by Gary McKinnon?



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 01:35 PM
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No i don't think so, he found a listing for 'Non-Terrestrial Officers' on a website and an image of a hexagonal ufo above earth from the raw NASA images i believe but that was it. Unfortunately back then he was using dial up so the image data was massive, so he made a piece of software and injected it into the system so he could remotely control the mouse from his end.

He got found out because he was hacking into the system during the day US time and a user hit the disconnect button before the ufo image came to full clarity.

Bummer!

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