After determining that my original post was not what I thought it was and visiting the "snopes" site it still does not explian the passport issue at all. "Snopes" only addresses a claim of the passport in the email, provided in image form by a thoughful ATS poster below, was false but offers no proof that it wasn't a US passport. Rather, the website stuck their "false" logo on it and left it at that with no hard evidence as to the passport's origin. Their conclusion is based in speculation.

So....

However, the claim that Barack Obama must have set out on that trip to Pakistan using a non-U.S. passport is false: The U.S. State Department did not include Pakistan on a "no travel" list barring Americans from traveling there in mid-1981, and evidence documents that Americans could in fact freely visit that country at that time. - Snopes website

This line from Snopes only says its "false" but offers no evidence as to the passport's origin. Snopes only emblazoned their "false" logo onto it and left it at that.

In short, if Barack Obama did visit Pakistan in the summer of 1981, he — like all other Americans — could have openly done so bearing a U.S. passport. - Snopes

The above explanation (if one can call it that & rely on it) only states that he "could have" visited on a US passport. This explanation is suggestive at best and does NOT prove that a passport used by Obama actually was a US issued one.

The email itself may have indeed originated from a so-so source however the passport issue isn't proved "false".


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Originally posted by mikelee

how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen

He managed to become a Natural Born citizen in August 4, 1961 when his mother gave birth to him on U.S soil

Originally posted by Polynomial C

Originally posted by mikelee

how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen

He managed to become a Natural Born citizen in August 4, 1961 when his mother gave birth to him on U.S soil

Respectfully, your statement does not answer the question. What passport did he use to travel?

He became a "nat cit" between 1981 and 2008.

Originally posted by AmericanDaughter
it would be so easliy remidied by obama showing the appropriate paperwork

He has shown it, but nothing he does or shows or proves will have you accept that a black man is the properly elected POTUS

Originally posted by Polynomial C

None other president had to show the "Proper" paperwork to the public...

.. Why does Obama need to show his??

Simple really - Obama is black

The founding fathers are trembling in their graves...A zoo has an African lion, the white house has a lying African

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by Polynomial C

None other president had to show the "Proper" paperwork to the public...

.. Why does Obama need to show his??

Simple really - Obama is black

While a racist answer may be fine for some, it isn't to me. The fact is that no other President's birth place has ever been brought into question before. Race is the easy way out for people who do not like to have answers asked of them.

The question is about the passport not race etc.

Originally posted by mikelee

Not entirely.

Yes, entirely. It is up to you, the one making the silly claim, to show that Obama had a passport other than his USA one.

You received a hoax email, and without checking, immediately jumped on here to post it. And you were caught out believing a hoax - now the bigger question is, why did you blindly believe it?

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by mikelee

Not entirely.

Yes, entirely. It is up to you, the one making the silly claim, to show that Obama had a passport other than his USA one.

You received a hoax email, and without checking, immediately jumped on here to post it. And you were caught out believing a hoax - now the bigger question is, why did you blindly believe it?

No need for your smarta**ed tone here. If you have nothing to contribute as to the passport issue then don't post.

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by mikelee

Not entirely.

Yes, entirely. It is up to you, the one making the silly claim, to show that Obama had a passport other than his USA one.

You received a hoax email, and without checking, immediately jumped on here to post it. And you were caught out believing a hoax - now the bigger question is, why did you blindly believe it?

And yes, I did make a mistake, so what? That does not discount the fact that the Snopes expanation is based in speculation rather than fact.

Originally posted by mikelee

And yes, I did make a mistake, so what? That does not discount the fact that the Snopes expanation is based in speculation rather than fact.

Wrong actually, YOU are the only one speculating here. As Obama was born in the USA, is a naturally born US citizen, why would he have any other passport than a USA one? Silly conspiracy theories like the birthers believe should be ignored, not treated like fact

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by mikelee

And yes, I did make a mistake, so what? That does not discount the fact that the Snopes expanation is based in speculation rather than fact.

Wrong actually, YOU are the only one speculating here. As Obama was born in the USA, is a naturally born US citizen, why would he have any other passport than a USA one? Silly conspiracy theories like the birthers believe should be ignored, not treated like fact

Speculation?

Then where in the Snopes expanation does it state that Obama's passport was issued by the US?