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What ever happened to the Ukraine Plague?

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posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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I keep receiving information through blogs, but no one is really interested in this topic anymore. What's the hype?




posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 08:49 PM
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Because its coming to your door now, not the Ukraine, that's why..



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by angelx666

Because its coming to your door now, not the Ukraine, that's why..


I assume it will get worse in jan.. what do you think



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 09:26 PM
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My wife has relatives in the Ukraine and is an active member of a Ukrainian Orthodox Church that has many recent immigrants as members. They all maintain active contact with people living there.

Apparently, Ukraine did suffer from proportionally high deaths from the H1N1. But this was not caused by a mutated form of the virus. It was simply a matter of the depressed state of the Ukrainian economy – and by extension the public health system – that was unable to cope and therefore resulted in needless deaths. Simple defects, such as shortages of IV solution, antipyretics (fever reducing medicines), trained personnel coupled with widespread malnutrition, improper sanitation and hygiene, etc. all contributed to exacerbating the effects.

Nothing is there to indicate a ‘super-bug’. It’s the same one we were afflicted with. The Ukrainians are just one of the countries that were unable to deal with it effectively.



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 09:26 PM
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The thing is, we're all dead. It all happened very quickly.
Some of us have already learned to post via DeadNet...



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by passenger
My wife has relatives in the Ukraine and is an active member of a Ukrainian Orthodox Church that has many recent immigrants as members. They all maintain active contact with people living there.

Apparently, Ukraine did suffer from proportionally high deaths from the H1N1. But this was not caused by a mutated form of the virus. It was simply a matter of the depressed state of the Ukrainian economy – and by extension the public health system – that was unable to cope and therefore resulted in needless deaths. Simple defects, such as shortages of IV solution, antipyretics (fever reducing medicines), trained personnel coupled with widespread malnutrition, improper sanitation and hygiene, etc. all contributed to exacerbating the effects.

Nothing is there to indicate a ‘super-bug’. It’s the same one we were afflicted with. The Ukrainians are just one of the countries that were unable to deal with it effectively.


Black lungs?



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 08:38 AM
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Once again some here on this BB is caught with egg on their face. There was a few of us who looked at the evidence and said there is nothing here and we were slammed for it.

Well how about some of those in that monster Ukraine thread ponying up and apologizing.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by AllexxisF1
Once again some here on this BB is caught with egg on their face. There was a few of us who looked at the evidence and said there is nothing here and we were slammed for it.

Well how about some of those in that monster Ukraine thread ponying up and apologizing.



link? apolgizing for what. your a little vague



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 10:18 AM
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Anything on the deaths by a TB outbreak? I know Ukraine rank number 5 on TB in the world.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 12:01 PM
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Don’t know how big a problem TB is – other than what you already stated.

Part of the problem is that a lot of us here in the west tend to think of Ukraine as a very modern, albeit economically 2nd tier state. That’s what I always thought.

Apparently, the reality is a lot more pathetic. Rampant unemployment and poverty make it day-to-day for a lot of Ukrainians. Furthermore, many live in primitive conditions and still stick to primitive attitudes. So, because they can’t get immediate access to a doctor, many are forced to resort to superstitious nonsense like eating a cabbage leaf boiled in holy water, or some other such ‘remedy’. It’s not their fault, its just sometimes that’s the only option; other than just laying down and dying. Being poor in Ukraine is not like being ‘poor’ in the west. Lacking the basic fundamentals of health care, as so many do, often leads to an early death from causes we would find easily administered to.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by passenger
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Don’t know how big a problem TB is – other than what you already stated.


Before the pandemic and the sad news of an outbreak in Ukraine they were having some time of problem with pneumonia and TB, by rank and the CDC statistics Ukraine comes on the top 5 from deaths related to TB, specially the antibiotic resistance one.

But when the pandemic came around along with the political problems in the nation the deaths were all attributed to swine flu the TB and pneumonia were put in back burner all because political game.

I have been following the news and what goes on in the Ukraine since the pandemic, and is very sad what happens in that nation and what the people has to go endure because politics.




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