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Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by tothetenthpower
For starters, it is NOT a secret.
We are discussing it here, it is being discussed ALL over the net and has been for quite a number of years.
One reason we can't all just take our scopes into the back garden and see this thing, is that it is reportedly coming from a southern direction, that is, it's coming towards us from our South pole position, so unless you had your scope set up in Antarctica, you wouldn't see it.
Quite interesting then, that a brand new and very large radio telescope was recently (a year or two ago) installed at...you guessed it - the South pole! Perfectly situated to observe this thing.
If it is 'The tenth planet', Nibiru, or planet X it is said to have a roughly 3,600 year elliptical orbit.
My question would be this...have archeologists discovered any evidence of mass extinctions, immense tidal waves, mega earthquakes, mega volcanic eruptions, mass burnings due to CMEs, on a repeating 3,600 year cycle?
To my knowledge, they have not. At least there is no published data to support global turmoil and kill offs, every 3,600 years.
That tells me one of three things.
1) Nibiru/planet X doesn't exist.
2) Nibiru/Planet X does exist, but has no discernible or minimal physical effects on life on Earth and does not create huge disasters for us during it's passage around Sol.
3) Nibiru/Planet X does exist and DOES create periodic (3,600 year cycle) catastrophe for us and other life here on Earth, and the evidence for this in the archeological record has been buried or otherwise hidden from us to prevent panic.
I'm hoping for 1. or 2. (of course), but how likely is 3.?
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Funny how no other media outlet over here has published this story yet, in fact the web site the OP linked doesnt even seem to gave thestory, and Ive certainly never heard of it until now
Edit: Thanks for the link, but Im a bit reluctant to agree with someone calling themselves starviewer team. Will have to wait and see if this is genuine, but as of yet, no other media outlet has said anything
[edit on 8/12/2009 by OzWeatherman]
These objects were therefore "mystery objects", at least until the mysteries were solved in short order. These sources all turned out to be distant galaxies except one which was a wisp of Galactic infrared cirrus (Soifer 1987, Annual Review of Astronomy & Astrophysics 25:187), and no such source has ever turned out to be a solar-system object.
Nonetheless, The Planet Nibiru goes on to say:
The United States Government squashed the story immediately! For some arcane top-secret reason the government doesn't want to alarm or panic the general public by disclosure of this discovery. Why? Because a race of super-beings inhabits that planet, and common knowledge of this fact would have people screaming in the streets.
Somehow the author of that page missed the following papers which reported the follow-up results for the eight galaxies out of the nine sources:
* Aaronson & Olszewski 1984, Nature 309:414. Six of the sources are high intensity IR galaxies.
* Antonucci & Olszewski 1985, Astronomical Journal 90:2203; 1986, Astronomical Journal 91:56. Resolved which galaxy was the counterpart of one IRAS source; measured or derived upper limits to angular sizes and obtained radio spectra of five galaxies.
* Houck et al. 1985, Astrophysical Journal Letters 290:L5. Six of the unidentified IRAS sources are ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies.
but that is probably understandable, since few non-astronomers read the technical astronomical literature, and since no press conference was held to announce those results. Even if a press conference had been held, it probably wouldn't have been published by the press anyway since this news wasn't nearly as exciting.
The amusing thing is that probably every one of those authors, and certainly myself as well, would much rather have these "mystery objects" turn out to be a solar-system object filled with life. (Although perhaps not inhabited by a race of "super-beings" - the fun would go out of science for us if we were hopelessly behind these "super-beings" in science abilities....) Further, I take no small amount of pleasure in being designated as part of a U.S. Government conspiracy to "squash" this delightful story!
While I am not convinced this is a Dwarf star and think its possibly a supernova, this documentary, documenting core ice samples, frozen magma samples, and archeological underwater ruins amongst many others would suggest there is a record of exactly what you speak of, and a regular cylce of cosmic dust trapped in our ice samples.
Originally posted by GoldenFleece
Originally posted by Phage
This year there have been 8 earthquakes of 7.5 or greater. There has been an annual average of 4.4 such earthquakes since 1973. The highest number was 10 in 2007. There were 8 in 1975. There were 7 in 1973, 1978, 1985, 2000, and 2001.
There is no increase in activity.
June 18, 2008
Today's Quakes Deadlier Than In Past
Study: Seismic Activity 5 Times More Energetic Than 20 Years Ago Because Of Global Warming
(AP) New research compiled by Australian scientist Dr. Tom Chalko shows that global seismic activity on Earth is now five times more energetic than it was just 20 years ago.
The research proves that destructive ability of earthquakes on Earth increases alarmingly fast and that this trend is set to continue, unless the problem of "global warming" is comprehensively and urgently addressed.
The analysis of more than 386,000 earthquakes between 1973 and 2007 recorded on the US Geological Survey database proved that the global annual energy of earthquakes on Earth began increasing very fast since 1990.
Dr. Chalko said that global seismic activity was increasing faster than any other global warming indicator on Earth and that this increase is extremely alarming.
"The most serious environmental danger we face on Earth may not be climate change, but rapidly and systematically increasing seismic, tectonic and volcanic activity," said Dr. Chalko.
Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
Except I doubt anthropomorphic global warming is the cause.
Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
4) Michel R. Legrand and Robert J. Delmas of Laboratoire de Glaciologie et Geophysique de l'Environment published an article "Soluble Impurities in Four Antarctic Ice Cores Over the Last 30,000 Years" in Annals of Glaciology (10, 1988, pp 116-120). They graphed the Oxygen 18 variations and the ionic components Na = NH (sub4) and Ca (sup 2) and H and Cl and NO (sub 3) and SO (sub 4). The time scale for each ionic component level as well as the O (sup 18) levels stretches back 30,000 years. The graph shows correlations to spikes at 5,200 BC, 8,800 BC, 12,400 BC, c. 16,000 BC, c. 19,600 BC. All of these were times of great geologic stress.
The ice cores show the disturbances starting in 1644 BC (registering in 1645 BC) and the tree rings show a big spike in 1628 BC which was probably the eruption of Thera, though the entire period was disturbed long after. At that point, the planet would be so shrouded in volcanic debris that subsequent tree rings would probably show little further variation due to adaptation.
Yoshiyuki Fujii and Okitsugu Watanabe demonstrate that "large scale environmental changed possibly occurred in the Southern Hemisphere in the middle of the Holocene." [Microparticle Concentration And Electrical Conductivity of A 700 m Ice Core from Mizuho Station Antarctic, published in Annals of Glaciology (1-, 1988) pp. 38-42] (Within the last 10,000 years). Their depth profiles of microparticle concentration, electrical conductivity and Oxygen 18 at circa 1600 BC indicates a spike in readings for all of these elements. The evidence shows that this disturbance covered this designated period, but with a "huge spike" at c. 1600 BC.
Similar evidence exists at 5200 BC. This period shows less severe but similar climatological stress. The oxygen 18 profile is close to normal, but there is a visible volcanic dirt band. The dating of this segment is less close because it is clear that nobody is really looking for this cycle, but it appears to correspond to the ash band from the Byrd station core. [ cf. G. Cope Schellhorn, Ph.D.:Evidence of Cyclical Earth Changes, from When Men are Gods] In an article in Nature, November 1980, C.U. Hammer, H. B. Clausen and Dansgaard date a disturbance from the Camp Century ice core to 5470 BC +/- 120 years. This compares to the proposed Hekla eruption which was radiocarbon dated to 5450 BC +/- 190 years. There is an appreciably high acidity signal at these sections of the core which indicates a high level of volcanic activity - again, right at the 3600 year cycle mark.
It is conjectured that the cycle goes unnoticed because of long-term after-effects, such as cooling climate, as well as the fact that each cycle has greater or lesser effects on the earth depending on the particular dynamical interactions within the solar system at any disruption.
What is clear is that something happens at 3600 year intervals as shown by the ice cores, and is capable of setting off prolonged periods of earth changes that are above the levels of ordinary uniformitarian geologic and climatalogical changes.
8.0 Samoa Islands
There have been no 8.0 earthquakes since 2007.
personally, i'm laying odds down early that there IS NOT a Nibiru.
simply because the gravitational effects of such an entity in the alleged location would literally WREAK HAVOC.