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Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
Originally posted by spikey
...One reason we can't all just take our scopes into the back garden and see this thing, is that it is reportedly coming from a southern direction, that is, it's coming towards us from our South pole position, so unless you had your scope set up in Antarctica, you wouldn't see it.
Quite interesting then, that a brand new and very large radio telescope was recently (a year or two ago) installed at...you guessed it - the South pole! Perfectly situated to observe this thing...
There is no such thing as an object in space that can only be seen from the South Pole. ALL objects in space located in the Earth's south direction would be visible in almost all of the southern hemisphere.
For example, Polaris (the North Star) is directly above Earth's north pole, yet it can be seen from almost the entire northern hemisphere. I live about half-way between the pole and the equator, and the North Star is very visible in my night sky and is relatively high above the horizon.
The idea that an object is hidden from our view and can only be seen from Antarctica is a myth originated by Nibiru believers.
Some objects far from our Sun may be hard to detect using the visible light spectrum, but that's another issue.
[edit on 12/9/2009 by Soylent Green Is People]
Originally posted by Anamnesis
Originally posted by hippomchippo
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Here's the problem..
We would SEE something like that. It's huge, not some little planet..It's a STAR.
Nobody can see it...
People could see it from their backyards...they don't.
There is nothing there..
~Keeper
Isn't it 3-19 times the size of jupiter? Wouldn't it appear as just a dot in sky, maybe less since it's beyond pluto?
1.9M is almost twice as big as our Sun. It's hard to imagine that we would not see it yet, even if it is a Brown Dwarf it would still reflect the rays from Sol. But, It could be that Pluto's orbit is opposite Earth's in relation to the Sun at this time which would mean that it is the furthest away from us in it's orbital cycle, that could account for the lack of visual.
Just speculating... interesting post. S&F
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
reply to post by daz__
That actually doesnt make sense, as brown dwarfs are not visible to the naked eye anyway. The only way they can be seen is via infrared. Im still very skeptical about this, I dont trust the source at all, especially considering that nothing has been mentioned on a ny other news outylet here in Australia. [/qluote]
Actually, if you know where to look, you can see one. They are strong emitters in the infrared, but do show up as a dim dull red (not brown) at about 430-450 THz. That roughly corresponds to the 2500 deg temperature.
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by scrybe
Hmmm...you'd think so, sooner or later wouldn't you.
Since it's orbit is supposed to be inside that of Pluto, according to the OP's article anyway, that it should start to become visible within the next six months or so, i would have thought.
Wait and see i guess.
Originally posted by Byrd
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by scrybe
Hmmm...you'd think so, sooner or later wouldn't you.
Since it's orbit is supposed to be inside that of Pluto, according to the OP's article anyway, that it should start to become visible within the next six months or so, i would have thought.
Wait and see i guess.
Brown dwarf suns are a bit brighter than gas giant planets ... and they're 10-20 times bigger than Jupiter. If it's inside the orbit of Pluto, every backyard astronomer with a good telescope would have found it by now (because someone would have spotted it, passed along the news, and everyone would have their telescopes on it.)
This is citizen science... not NASA, not anyone who could cover up anything. There's no evidence of disturbances of the other planets (which would be apparent by now, and again you'd have People With Telescopes screeching about it on every astronomy forum in the world) -- AND -- it would also mean that if you went hunting for the planets in the night sky, you couldn't find them.
I can assure you that they're right where they are predicted to be.
The story appears to be from a tabloid of some sort like those reporting on sightings of Bat Boy or that Elvis is now a zombie and is the lead opera singer in Omaha, Nebraska.
Originally posted by daz__
reply to post by Pauligirl
something really stinks about all this.