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We have our Brown Dwarf, interacting with and Bombarding asteroids of Oort against Pluto and Jupiter

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posted on May, 6 2010 @ 12:39 AM
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The existence of a brown dwarf companion is possible. It would have to be so far away that reflected light falls below the limits of the Pan-Starrs survey. Back in 2004 David Jewetts published an article in which he set limits both gravimetrically and visually on the detection of objects near our solar system. Not only must the objects be currently far away, but their orbits must keep the objects far away. A recent paper postulates a possible object around 25000AU or about 1/3 of a light year away.

So yes objects are possible, but they cannot be large or close. The larger the object the farther out it must be to avoid detection. And far out means really far away from the orbits of the known planets, like 8 to 1000 times or even farther out.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 09:45 PM
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Anyone happen to have the original spanish site?

I have found the following article which is from April 2010.

www.abc.es...

That article is talking about this.
xxx.lanl.gov...

Anyway.. I see Phage after his usual lies and disinformation campaign...

We know through indirect measurements that earthquakes MUST have been increasing simply because dozens of research work shows that when there are fluctuations, either up or down, in the Sun's activity several REAL SCIENTISTS, and not wannabes like Phage, have seen a correlation with an increase in earthquakes.

Anyway, then there is the fact that three different research groups found that there has been a secular increase in the AU, distance, between the Sun and the planets, and NONE of our models can account for this increase which means THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT COULD BE CAUSING THIS.

Then there is the fact that appart from other anomalies research groups also found that recently comets seem to be accelerated towards the inner Solar System and they arrive days earlier than they are supposed to, and this acceleration is similar to the anomalies found with the Pioneer satellites, which were the first to experience the acceleration.

I have posted those research papers, but like always Phage wants to play scientist, even when he is obviously not and seems to be more of a disinformation campaign activist than anything else...

I will link my threads later, but if anyone wants to find them just look through the threads I have created, which is the same thing I have to do to post the links.



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posted on May, 6 2010 @ 10:24 PM
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Solar activity and quakes is not related. There is a possibility that tidal effects from the moon have an effect on some types of earthquakes. In general though the moon and quakes seem to be unrelated. If you have a link to a published report on solar activity and earthquakes I'd be interested in seeing it.

I'll wait for your links. In the mean time I have to ask why a difference in a measurement having an unknown reason is any different that other days in the world of science. If everything was known then scientists would be out of work. But there is lots to learn.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by stereologist
Solar activity and quakes is not related.
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I'll wait for your links. In the mean time I have to ask why a difference in a measurement having an unknown reason is any different that other days in the world of science. If everything was known then scientists would be out of work. But there is lots to learn.



Yes they are related. I have posted several peer reviewed papers that show the link including...


Solar activity as a triggering mechanism for earthquakes

John F. Simpsona, b

a Goodyear Aerospace Corporation, USA

b University of Akron, Akron, Ohio, USA

Received 7 November 1967; revised 16 December 1967. Available online 28 October 2002.

Abstract

Solar activity, as indicated by sunspots, radio noise and geomagnetic indices, plays a significant but by no means exclusive role in the triggering of earthquakes. Maximum quake frequency occurs at times of moderately high and fluctuating solar activity. Terrestrial solar flare effects which are the actual coupling mechanisms which trigger quakes appear to be either abrupt accelerations in the earth's angular velocity or surges of telluric currents in the earth's crust. The graphs presented in this paper permit probabilistic forecasting of earthquakes, and when used in conjunction with local indicators may provide a significant tool for specific earthquake prediction.

linkinghub.elsevier.com...

Now, notice what the following reknown scientist who is an expert in geodynamics, seismology and tectonics have to say...


SCIENCE WITHOUT BORDERS. Transactions of the International Academy of Science H & E.
Vol.3. 2007/2008, SWB, Innsbruck, 2008 ISBN 978-9952-451-01-6 ISSN 2070-0334
217
ABOUT POSSIBLE INFLUENCE OF SOLAR ACTIVITY UPON SEISMIC AND VOLCANIC ACTIVITIES: LONG-TERM FORECAST

*Khain V.E., **Khalilov E.N.
*Moscow State University named after M.V.Lomonosov,
**International Academy of Science H&E (Austria, Innsbruck)

It has been determined that in the period of solar activity increase (11-year
cycles) there increase seismic and volcanic activities in the compression zone of
Earth and at the same time there decreases the activity in the tension zones of Earth.
On the basis of the discovered stable 11-year and 22-year cyclicalities in the seismic and volcanic activities and their high correlation with solar activity there has been made the long-term forecast until 2018. The next maximum of seismic and volcanic activity with very high amplitude for the compression zones of Earth is forecasted for the period 2012-2015.


www.khalilov.biz...

BTW, if you want to know who Elchin Khalilov (Khalilov E.N.) is here are a few facts that anyone can corroborate...


Dr.Prof. Elchin Khalilov (Azerbaijani: Elçin Xəlilov (born On April, 26th 1959, Baku, Azerbaijan) is a famous scientist in the sphere of geodynamics, seismology and tectonics.

en.wikipedia.org...


Here are some more peer reviewed research that shows a link between Solar activity and earthquakes.


A relationship between solar activity and frequency of natural disasters in China
Journal Advances in Atmospheric Sciences
Publisher Science Press, co-published with Springer-Verlag GmbH
ISSN 0256-1530 (Print) 1861-9533 (Online)
Issue Volume 20, Number 6 / November, 2003
DOI 10.1007/BF02915516
Pages 934-939
Subject Collection Earth and Environmental Science
SpringerLink Date Sunday, June 08, 2008

Wang Zhongrui1 , Song Feng2 and Tang Maocang1

(1) Cold and Arid Regions Environmental and Engineering Research Institute, Chinese Academy of Sciences, 730000 Lanzhou
(2) Climate and Bio-Atmospheric Sciences Group, School of Natural Resource Sciences, University of Nebraska-Lincoln, Lincoln, Nebraska, USA

Received: 7 September 2002 Revised: 6 June 2003

Abstract The relationship between the length of the solar cycle, a good indicator of long-term change in solar activity, and natural disasters (drought, flood, and strong earthquakes) in China during the last 108 years is analyzed. The results suggest that the length of solar cycle may be a useful indicator for drought/flood and strong earthquakes. When the solar activity strengthens, we see the length of the solar cycle shorten and more floods occur in South China and frequent strong earthquakes happen in the Tibetan Plateau, but the droughts in East China as well as the strong earthquakes in Taiwan and at the western boundary of China are very few. The opposite frequencies occur when the solar activity weakens. The current study indicates that the solar activity may play an important role in the climate extremes and behavior in the lithosphere.

www.springerlink.com...

I can keep on going posting more, and more peer-reviewed research which shows Phage is lying, and even though he himself has seen many of these papers he keeps claiming there is no link....and STILL members believe every word he says....


Solar activity and global seismicity of the earth

Journal Bulletin of the Russian Academy of Sciences: Physics
Publisher Allerton Press, Inc. distributed exclusively by Springer Science+Business Media LLC
ISSN 1062-8738 (Print) 1934-9432 (Online)
Issue Volume 71, Number 4 / April, 2007
Category Proceedings of the XXIX All-Russia Conference on Cosmic Rays
DOI 10.3103/S1062873807040466
Pages 593-595
Subject Collection Physics and Astronomy
SpringerLink Date Wednesday, May 16, 2007

S. D. Odintsov1, G. S. Ivanov-Kholodnyi1 and K. Georgieva2

(1) Pushkov Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism, Ionosphere, and Radiowave Propagation, Russian Academy of Sciences, Troitsk, Moscow oblast, 142190, Russia
(2) Laboratory of Solar—Terrestrial Coupling, Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, Sophia, Bulgaria


Abstract Results of studying the character and possible succession of cause-effect relations (in going from a disturbance source on the Sun to a response in the lithosphere in the range of periods from several days to the 11-year solar cycle) have been presented. It has been indicated that the maximum of seismic energy, released from earthquake sources in the 11-yr cycle of sunspots, is observed during the phase of cycle decline and lags 2 yr behind the solar cycle maximum. It has been established that the maximum in the number of earthquakes directly correlates with the instant of a sudden increase in the solar wind velocity.

Original Russian Text © S.D. Odintsov, G.S. Ivanov-Kholodnyi, K. Georgieva, 2007, published in Izvestiya Rossiiskoi Akademii Nauk. Seriya Fizicheskaya, 2007, Vol. 71, No. 4, pp. 608–610.

www.springerlink.com...


I can post dozens of similar peer-reviewed papers that show Solar activity is ONE mechanism that triggers earthquakes, and more so during very low cycles.



Relationship between global seismicity and solar activities

Journal Acta Seismologica Sinica
Publisher Seismological Society of China
ISSN 1000-9116 (Print) 1993-1344 (Online)
Issue Volume 11, Number 4 / July, 1998
DOI 10.1007/s11589-998-0096-5
Pages 495-500
Subject Collection Earth and Environmental Science
SpringerLink Date Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Gui-Qing Zhang1

(1) Beijing Astronomical Observatory, Chinese Academy of Science, 100101 Beijing, China

Received: 4 July 1997 Revised: 25 November 1997 Accepted: 25 November 1997

Abstract The relations between sunspot numbers and earthquakes (M≧6), solar 10.7 cm radio flux and earthquakes, solar proton events and earthquakes have been analyzed in this paper. It has been found that: (1) Earthquakes occur frequently around the minimum years of solar activity. Generally, the earthquake activities are relatively less during the peak value years of solar activity, some say, around the period when magnetic polarity in the solar polar regions is reversed. (2) the earthquake frequency in the minimum period of solar activity is closely related to the maximum annual means of sunspot numbers, the maximum annual means of solar 10.7 cm radio flux and solar proton events of a whole solar cycle, and the relation between earthquake and solar proton events is closer than others. (3) As judged by above interrelationship, the period from 1995 to 1997 will be the years while earthquake activities are frequent. In the paper, the simple physical discussion has been carried out.
Key words solar activity - sunspot numbers - solar radio flux - solar proton events


These results supported the exploration and studies of some researchers to a certain extent.

This work is supported by Foundation of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (major item).

www.springerlink.com...

Just tell me when you get tired of reading so many papers.

Then again Solar activity is not the only trigger mechanism for earthquakes which has been found by scientists from all over the world.



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posted on May, 7 2010 @ 04:07 AM
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Annales Geophysicae (2003) 21: 597–602
c European Geosciences Union 2003

High-energy charged particle bursts in the near-Earth space as
earthquake precursors
S. Yu. Aleksandrin1, A. M. Galper1, L. A. Grishantzeva1, S. V. Koldashov1, L. V. Maslennikov1, A.M. Murashov1,
P. Picozza2, V. Sgrigna3, and S. A. Voronov1
1Space Physics Institute, Moscow State Engineering Physics Institute, Kashirskoe shosse 31, 115409 Moscow, Russia
2Dept. of Physics, Univ. of Rome ”Tor Vergata” and INFN Sez. Rome2, via della Ricerca Scientifica 1, I–00133 Rome, Italy
3Dept. of Physics, Univ. of Rome ”Roma Tre”, via della Vasca Navale, 84, I–00146 Rome, Italy
Received: 21 July 2001 – Revised: 21 May 2002 – Accepted: 11 July 2002

Abstract. The experimental data on high-energy charged
particle fluxes, obtained in various near-Earth space experiments
(MIR orbital station, METEOR-3, GAMMA and
SAMPEX satellites) were processed and analyzed with the
goal to search for particle bursts. Particle bursts have been selected
in every experiment considered. It was shown that the
significant part of high-energy charged particle bursts correlates with seismic activity. Moreover, the particle bursts are observed several hours before strong earthquakes; L-shells of particle bursts and corresponding earthquakes are practically the same
. Some features of a seismo-magnetosphere connection model, based on the interaction of electromagnetic emission of seismic origin and radiation belt particles, were considered.


Key words. Ionospheric physics (energetic particles,
trapped; energetic particles, precipitating; magnetosphereionosphere
interactions)

hal.archives-ouvertes.fr...

As to why is this sort of research important for us now? Some of you might remember the following, or you might have forgotten.


Cosmic Rays Hit Space Age High

ScienceDaily (Sep. 29, 2009) — Planning a trip to Mars? Take plenty of shielding. According to sensors on NASA's ACE (Advanced Composition Explorer) spacecraft, galactic cosmic rays have just hit a Space Age high.

"In 2009, cosmic ray intensities have increased 19% beyond anything weve seen in the past 50 years," says Richard Mewaldt of Caltech. "The increase is significant, and it could mean we need to re-think how much radiation shielding astronauts take with them on deep-space missions."

The cause of the surge is solar minimum, a deep lull in solar activity that began around 2007 and continues today. Researchers have long known that cosmic rays go up when solar activity goes down. Right now solar activity is as weak as it has been in modern times, setting the stage for what Mewaldt calls "a perfect storm of cosmic rays."

"We're experiencing the deepest solar minimum in nearly a century," says Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center, "so it is no surprise that cosmic rays are at record levels for the Space Age."

www.sciencedaily.com...


BTW, all of the above I have posted in the following link.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But there is more. Let me show the proof that there is something massive out there which does seem to be getting closer to us and is affecting every planet in the Solar System, and probably even the Sun's activity.

I posted this recently. This is what NASA says the dead star is doing. At least it is what they claim publicly.


Nasa scientists are searching for an invisible 'Death Star' that circles the Sun, which catapults potentially catastrophic comets at the Earth.



The star, also known as Nemesis, is five times the size of Jupiter and could be to blame for the impact that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

The bombardment of icy missiles is being blamed by some scientists for mass extinctions of life that they say happen every 26 million years.

Nemesis is predicted to lie at a distance equal to 25,000 times that of the Earth from the Sun, or a third of a light-year.

Astronomers believe it is of a type called a red or brown dwarf – a "failed star" that has not managed to generate enough energy to burn like the Sun.

But it should be detectable by a heat-sensitive space telescope called WISE, the Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer.

Launched last year, WISE began surveying the skies in January. It is expected to discover a 1000 brown dwarfs within 25 light-years of the Sun – right on our cosmic doorstep – before its coolant runs out in October.
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www.telegraph.co.uk...



Evidence Mounts For Companion Star To Our Sun
by Staff Writers
Newport Beach CA (SPX) Apr 25, 2006
The Binary Research Institute (BRI) has found that orbital characteristics of the recently discovered planetoid, Sedna, demonstrate the possibility that our sun might be part of a binary star system. A binary star system consists of two stars gravitationally bound orbiting a common center of mass.

Once thought to be highly unusual, such systems are now considered to be common in the Milky Way galaxy.

Walter Cruttenden at BRI, Professor Richard Muller at UC Berkeley, Dr. Daniel Whitmire of the University of Louisiana, amongst several others, have long speculated on the possibility that our sun might have an as yet undiscovered companion. Most of the evidence has been statistical rather than physical.

The recent discovery of Sedna, a small planet like object first detected by Cal Tech astronomer Dr. Michael Brown, provides what could be indirect physical evidence of a solar companion. Matching the recent findings by Dr. Brown, showing that Sedna moves in a highly unusual elliptical orbit, Cruttenden has determined that Sedna moves in resonance with previously published orbital data for a hypothetical companion star.

In the May 2006 issue of Discover, Dr. Brown stated: "Sedna shouldnt be there. Theres no way to put Sedna where it is. It never comes close enough to be affected by the sun, but it never goes far enough away from the sun to be affected by other stars... Sedna is stuck, frozen in place; there's no way to move it, basically there's no way to put it there – unless it formed there. But it's in a very elliptical orbit like that. It simply can't be there. There's no possible way - except it is. So how, then?"

"I'm thinking it was placed there in the earliest history of the solar system. I'm thinking it could have gotten there if there used to be stars a lot closer than they are now and those stars affected Sedna on the outer part of its orbit and then later on moved away. So I call Sedna a fossil record of the earliest solar system. Eventually, when other fossil records are found, Sedna will help tell us how the sun formed and the number of stars that were close to the sun when it formed."

www.spacedaily.com...



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 04:12 AM
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Does a Companion Star to Sun cause Earth's Periodic Mass Extinctions?



THE THEORIZED COMPANION STAR, THROUGH ITS GRAVITATIONAL PULL, UNLEASHES A FURIOUS STORM OF COMETS IN THE INNER SOLAR SYSTEM LASTING FROM 100,000 TO TWO MILLION YEARS. SEVERAL OF THESE COMETS STRIKE THE EARTH.

"Heavy snows are driven and fall from the world's four corners; the murder frost prevails. The Sun is darkened at noon; it sheds no gladness; devouring tempests bellow and never end. In vain do men await the coming of summer. Thrice winter follows winter over a world which is snow-smitten, frost-fettered, and chained in ice."

"Fimbul Winter" from Norse saga, Twilight of the Gods

By Lynn Yarris

Our species, Homo sapiens, arose approximately 250,000 years ago. In the beginning, we used tools of stone and sought shelter in caves. Today, our shelters scrape clouds and our tools allow us to see galaxies far beyond our own, or peer deep into the heart of matter itself. So much progress in such a short time, for in geological terms, the reign of our species has been but the proverbial blink of an eye. Imagine, however, what our record of achievement would be had our history been disrupted no less than five times by titanic nuclear wars, each delivering a destructive blast 10,000 times more powerful than the combined yield of all existing nuclear weapons in our world today.

Such upheaval is what many other species, including the dinosaurs, may have faced during the history of our planet, according to a theory set forth by a Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (LBL) scientist and his colleagues. The theory postulates that every 26 to 30 million years, life on Earth is severely jeopardized by the arrival of a small companion star to the sun. Dubbed "Nemesis" (after the Greek goddess of retribution), the companion star�through its gravitational pull�unleashes a furious storm of comets into the inner solar system that lasts anywhere from 100,000 years to two million years. Of the billions of comets sent swarming toward the sun, several strike the Earth, triggering a nightmarish sequence of ecological catastrophes.

"We expect that in a typical comet storm, there would be perhaps 10 impacts spread out over two million years, with intervals averaging 50,000 years between impacts," says LBL astrophysicist Richard Muller. In 1984, Muller, along with UC Berkeley astronomer Marc Davis and Piet Hut, an astronomer with the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton University, announced the Nemesis theory in Nature magazine. As could be expected, it was and remains controversial. However, although the evidence for the existence of Nemesis is still circumstantial, this evidence continues to mount, and the theory has so far withstood all challenges.

Nemesis was the culmination of a chain of events that began in 1977, in Gubbio, Italy, a tiny village halfway between Rome and Florence. Walter Alvarez, a UC Berkeley geologist, was collecting samples of the limestone rock there for a study on paleomagnetism. The limestone rock outside of Gubbio is a big attraction for geologists and paleontologists because it provides a complete geological record of the end of the Cretaceous period and the beginning of the Tertiary period. This transition took place 65 million years ago, and is of special significance to our species, for it marked the close of the "Age of Reptiles," when dinosaurs ruled the Earth. Sometimes referred to as "the Great Dying," the massive extinction that engulfed the dinosaurs claimed nearly 75 percent of all the species of life on our planet, including most types of plants and many types of microscopic organisms. As much as 95 percent of all living creatures might have perished at the peak of destruction.


www.lbl.gov...

The above is what has been theorized, at least publicly, but what is happening is this.


Secular increase of the astronomical unit and perihelion precessions as tests of the Dvali–Gabadadze–Porrati multi-dimensional braneworld scenario
Lorenzo Iorio JCAP09(2005)006 doi: 10.1088/1475-7516/2005/09/006


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Lorenzo Iorio
Viale Unità di Italia 68, 70125, Bari, Italy
E-mail: [email protected]
Abstract. An unexpected secular increase of the astronomical unit, the length scale of the Solar System, has recently been reported by three different research groups (Krasinsky and Brumberg, Pitjeva, Standish). The latest JPL measurements amount to 7 ± 2 m cy−1. At present, there are no explanations able to accommodate such an observed phenomenon, either in the realm of classical physics or in the usual four-dimensional framework of the Einsteinian general relativity. The Dvali–Gabadadze–Porrati braneworld scenario, which is a multi-dimensional model of gravity aimed at providing an explanation of the observed cosmic acceleration without dark energy, predicts, among other things, a perihelion secular shift, due to Lue and Starkman, of 5 × 10−4 arcsec cy−1 for all the planets of the Solar System. It yields a variation of about 6 m cy−1 for the Earth–Sun distance which is compatible with the observed rate of change for the astronomical unit. The recently measured corrections to the secular motions of the perihelia of the inner planets of the Solar System are in agreement with the predicted value of the Lue–Starkman effect for Mercury, Mars and, at a slightly worse level, the Earth.

www.iop.org...

Evidence that whatever this is seems to also be affecting comets, and they are arriving earlier than they are supposed to.



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8.2 Other anomalies?
There is one further observation which status is rather unclear bit which perhaps may fit into the other observations. This is the observation of the return time of comets: Comets usually come back a few days before they are expected when applying ordinary equations of motion. The delay usually is assigned to the outgassing of these objects. In fact, the delay is used for an estimate of the strength of this outgassing. On the other hand, it has been calculated in (44) that the assumption that starting with 20 AU there is an additional acceleration of the order of the Pioneer anomaly also leads to the effect that comets come back a few days earlier. It is not clear whether this is a serious indications but a further study of the trajectories of comets certainly is worthwhile.

arxiv.org...

Now the strangest part is that we even had a vatican insider warn us about what the vatican knows which Father Malachi Martin specified was approaching us.

Who was father Malachi Martin?

Of note I have also given the interview done by Art Bell to Father Milachi Martin, who in 1997 stated that the Vatican knew of something which was approaching our Solar System, he said it was approaching us from space, and which was known by the Vatican and was also the main purpose for the Vatican owning Mt. Graham International Observatory.

www.cyberspaceorbit.com...

Father Malachi Martin was not just a regular person, he was a theologian, former Jesuit and professor at the Vatican's Pontifical Biblical Institute. He had doctorates in Semitic languages, archeology, and Oriental history, and was an associate and friend to Pope John XXIII.

This was a man with connections in the Vatican, who worked for them, and he came forward with information which "might" have been the reason for his death. He died in 1999 by falling a flight of stairs which caused a heart attack. It could have been natural, but it is just a bit too strange.

Here is an audio file of what he said was approaching us, and the knowledge about this by those in power in the Vatican.

www.cyberspaceorbit.com...

The above, and more links with research papers corroborating everything I said I have posted in the following link, among many others.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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posted on May, 7 2010 @ 04:28 AM
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So my question is, what could possibly be causing the many anomalies in the Solar System, including the secular increase of the distance between the planets and the Sun?

It has got to be something massive to be pulling the planets away from the Sun, and accelerating comets into the inner Solar System, and this seems to be approaching.

I am not saying it will come into the inner Solar System, but the evidence does tells us whatever this massive thing is, it is approaching us.

To me it sounds that the warning by Father Malachi Martin, and what the evidence shows, there is a dead star that is approaching us and causing many anomalies in the Solar System.

BTW, despite the lies of Phage, it is too much of a coincidence that every planet in the Solar System has been undergoing Climate Changes in the form of WARMING at the same time that Earth has been experiencing warming.

Even Pluto as it was getting farther, and farther away from the Sun was warming. So what could have been warming Pluto, which is pretty small, and barely has any atmosphere, yet as it was going into "supposedly" colder regions of space, and getting farther, and farther away from the Sun, it just kept warming.

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posted on May, 7 2010 @ 04:41 AM
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BTW, related to this is the following scan of an encyclopedia's page that for some reason was showing such a dead star in our Solar System.

It doesn't only show a dead star, but also a massive tenth planet.

The encyclopedia puts the Dead Star at 20 billion miles, meanwhile the tenth massive planet is shown at about 4.7 billion miles.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/0094d75a6770.jpg[/atsimg]


Here is a link to the thread where I posted this.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



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posted on May, 7 2010 @ 04:47 AM
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Large 'Planet X' May Lurk Beyond Pluto
By Ker Than,LiveScience
Posted: 2008-06-19 17:56:30
Filed Under: Science News

(June 19) - An icy, unknown world might lurk in the distant reaches of our solar system beyond the orbit of Pluto, according to a new computer model.


The hidden world -- thought to be much bigger than Pluto based on the model -- could explain unusual features of the Kuiper Belt, a region of space beyond Neptune littered with icy and rocky bodies. Its existence would satisfy the long-held hopes and hypotheses for a "Planet X" envisioned by scientists and sci-fi buffs alike.

"Although the search for a distant planet in the solar system is old, it is far from over," said study team member Patryk Lykawka of Kobe University in Japan.

The model, created by Lykawka and Kobe University colleague Tadashi Mukai, is detailed in a recent issue of Astrophysical Journal.

If the new world is confirmed, it would not be technically a planet. Under a controversial new definition adopted by the International Astronomical Union (IAU) last week, it would instead be the largest known "plutoid."

The Kuiper Belt contains many peculiar features that cant be explained by standard solar system models. One is the highly irregular orbits of some of the belts members.

The most famous is Sedna, a rocky object located three times farther from the sun than Pluto. Sedna takes 12,000 years to travel once around the Sun, and its orbit ranges from 80 to 100 astronomical units (AU). One AU is equal to the distance between the Earth and the Sun.

Possible Planet X



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 05:53 AM
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Persistent Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud.
An updated dynamical and statistical analysis of outer Oort cloud cometary evidence suggesting the sun has a wide-binary Jovian mass companion. The putative companion could be easily detected by the recently launched Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE)!
lanl.arxiv.org...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 06:20 AM
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Geat stuff! Thanks for all your research. You have done all anyone could expect of a real threat to all of us.

mclinking



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 07:43 AM
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It is true that Simpson suggests a strong connected. That doesn't seem to be what everyone agrees upon when it comes to earthquakes.

Singh, S., Geomagnetic activity and microearthquakes, Bull. Seismol. Soc Am., 68, 1533±1535, 1976.


I did a check of the literature I can check at home. That check showed very little in terms of articles connecting the 2. Notice that the first article is a 1967 article.

In one of the articles I located:
Diamantides, N.D. , Long-term solar activity and terrestrial connections. Part II: At the beckon of the sun?, 1998, Annales Geophysicae 16 (5), pp. 492-509 the conclusion says:



2. The proposed surrogate z11 of long-term solar activity does make for a quantitative intermediary of solar- terrestrial connections.
3. The mathematical modeling of z11 itself does provide a tool of projecting geophysical processes.




For all these occurrences, although `connection' does not necessarily imply causality, it does indicate synchronization




As a footnote, it should be pointed out that the purpose of the numerous Appendices included in this essay is the hope that other investigators specializing in particular topics would use them either to extend or refute the thesis advocated in this study.


Diamantides also says


Singh opines that whatever mechanism of energy-coupling seems to be working, the magnitude of such energy seems to be very small and, therefore, any contribution of the solar activity to seismic events should be more pronounced and more easily discernible in the case of very small energy seismic events, called microearthquakes. He then proceeds to conduct a small experimental research which leads him to conclude ``that the solar activity is by no means an exclusive factor in the timing of microearthquakes''.


I'll take more of a look around. It seems that the connection may be there, but it appears to be somehow correlated, not causal.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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You haven't shown that anything massive is approaching us. You mention that there is a possibility of an object which is quoted in various places to be 1 to 5 Jupiter masses although the BRI suggest 1 to 4. That object is suggested to be 25,000 AU away. It does not head towards us. Comets are small mass objects which do enter the part of the solar system where the known planets exist.

Studies of the planets show that no planet sized objects exist with 320AU of the sun. Complete sky scans also show no planet sized objects in that region.

The Pluto warming is due to thermal lag - an expected phenomenon.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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This is not from an encyclopedia. It has been shown to be in error by Chadwickus.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



Firstly Pioneer 10 and 11 are heading in opposite directions, so there is no triangulation.
Secondly the diagram is based on the hypothetical location of the tenth planet, no mention of planet x.
Thirdly The dead star is at the same distance as the supposed mystery heavenly body mentioned in the 1983 news article discussed above. Again it was speculated to be an object but later discovered to be several objects.
Fourthly This diagram came from the New Science and Invention Encyclopedia, published in 1987, not Encyclopedia Britannica 1983.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 08:09 AM
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From the Introduction to the article:



Such an object would be incapable of creating comet “storms”. To help mitigate popular confusion with the Nemesis model (Whitmire and Jackson ( 1984), Davis et al. ( 1984)) we use the name recently suggested by Kirkpatrick and Wright (2010), Tyche, (the good sister of Nemesis) for the putative companion.


From the conclusion:



A putative companion with these properties may also be capable of producing detached Kuiper Belt objects such as Sedna and has been given the name Tyche. Tyche could have significantly depleted the inner Oort cloud over the solar system lifetime requiring a corresponding increase in the inferred primordial Oort cloud population. A substantive difficulty with the Tyche conjecture is the absence of a corresponding excess in the presumed IOC daughter population.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by stereologist

It is true that Simpson suggests a strong connected. That doesn't seem to be what everyone agrees upon when it comes to earthquakes.


Singh, S., Geomagnetic activity and microearthquakes, Bull. Seismol. Soc Am., 68, 1533±1535, 1976.


First of all that research you showed is from 1976, and 1998, yet there are dozens of articles which are much recent, and most, if not all which find a connection, and this is from scientists all over the world.


Originally posted by stereologist
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I'll take more of a look around. It seems that the connection may be there, but it appears to be somehow correlated, not causal.


You might believe in coincidences, but there is no such thing as a coincidence more so when most scientists agree that there is a connection.


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posted on May, 7 2010 @ 11:59 AM
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First of all that research you showed is from 1976, and 1998, yet there are dozens of articles which are much recent most, if not all which find a connection, and this is from scientists all over the world.


The first paper you posted was 1967. That paper makes a strong case. It seems that the case is not as strong as claimed. What I have seen is correlation and not necessarily causality. That's why I'm interesting and looking.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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You haven't shown that anything massive is approaching us.


No?... and pray tell us what is pulling all planets away from the Sun? What is causing the other anomalies including the very elliptical orbits of Pluto, and other dwarf planets, as well as the elliptical orbit of Uranus, Neptune, and to a lesser degree Jupiter? What is making comets accelerate starting at 20 AU? or any of the other anomalies NO MODEL can account for?



Originally posted by stereologist
You mention that there is a possibility of an object which is quoted in various places to be 1 to 5 Jupiter masses although the BRI suggest 1 to 4. That object is suggested to be 25,000 AU away. It does not head towards us. Comets are small mass objects which do enter the part of the solar system where the known planets exist.

Studies of the planets show that no planet sized objects exist with 320AU of the sun. Complete sky scans also show no planet sized objects in that region.


I am sorry but that is not true. in reality studies shows that there is somehting very massive, and at least one large planet size object which hasn't been seen yet. Just because it hasn't been seen, it doesn't mean it isn't there.

BTW, you missed the part...



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8.2 Other anomalies?
There is one further observation which status is rather unclear bit which perhaps may fit into the other observations. This is the observation of the return time of comets: Comets usually come back a few days before they are expected when applying ordinary equations of motion. The delay usually is assigned to the outgassing of these objects. In fact, the delay is used for an estimate of the strength of this outgassing. On the other hand, it has been calculated in (44) that the assumption that starting with 20 AU there is an additional acceleration of the order of the Pioneer anomaly also leads to the effect that comets come back a few days earlier. It is not clear whether this is a serious indications but a further study of the trajectories of comets certainly is worthwhile.

arxiv.org...

They state that starting at 20AU, and not 25,000AU as you claim, there is an acceleration of comets similar to that experienced by the Pioneer spacecraft, which makes comets arrive days earlier than they are supposed to. So whatever it is is much closer than 25,000 AU.



Originally posted by stereologist
The Pluto warming is due to thermal lag - an expected phenomenon.


Riiight thermal lag of a dwarf planet, with barely any atmosphere as it moved away from the Sun for years?....

The government also loves to claim that there is no such thing as UFOs, and as a former Navy AW/Aircrewman I can tell you that is a lie.

BTW, in case you didn't know AW stands for (Aviation Warfare)


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posted on May, 7 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist

The first paper you posted was 1967. That paper makes a strong case. It seems that the case is not as strong as claimed. What I have seen is correlation and not necessarily causality. That's why I'm interesting and looking.


Yep, which shows yours from 1976 is not all, nor what most scientists discovered even back in the day.

BTW, some other research which I have shown before does tell us that we were/are moving into a new region of space and that we were going to encounter in the near future a new interstellar cloud. Or at least a new region of the local fluf different from the region we have been in which could change drastically the climate on Earth for the next 10,000 years.


Title:
Is the solar system entering a nearby interstellar cloud
Authors:
Vidal-Madjar, A.; Laurent, C.; Bruston, P.; Audouze, J.
Affiliation:
AA(CNRS, Laboratoire de Physique Stellaire et Planetaire, Verrieres-le-Buisson, Essonne, France), AB(CNRS, Laboratoire de Physique Stellaire et Planetaire, Verrieres-le-Buisson, Essonne, France), AC(CNRS, Laboratoire de Physique Stellaire et Planetaire, Verrieres-le-Buisson, Essonne, France), AD(Meudon Observatoire, Hauts-de-Seine; Paris XI, Universite, Orsay, Essonne, France)
Publication:
Astrophysical Journal, Part 1, vol. 223, July 15, 1978, p. 589-600. (ApJ Homepage)
Publication Date:
07/1978
Category:
Astrophysics
Origin:
STI
NASA/STI Keywords:
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Abstract
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Observational arguments in favor of such a cloud are presented, and implications of the presence of a nearby cloud are discussed, including possible changes in terrestrial climate. It is suggested that the postulated interstellar cloud should encounter the solar system at some unspecified time in the near future and might have a drastic influence on terrestrial climate in the next 10,000 years.

adsabs.harvard.edu...

It has been stated by NASA, and ESA that there is an increase in the interstellar dust which would increase exponentially until about 2012. Part of this was because the Sun for some reason didn't flip it's magnetic poles completely as it should be, but that doesn't explain the exponential increase in interstellar dust.


ESA sees stardust storms heading for Solar System

PRESS RELEASE
Date Released: Monday, August 18, 2003
Source: Artemis Society

Until ten years ago, most astronomers did not believe stardust could enter our Solar System. Then ESA's Ulysses spaceprobe discovered minute stardust particles leaking through the Sun's magnetic shield, into the realm of Earth and the other planets. Now, the same spaceprobe has shown that a flood of dusty particles is heading our way.
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What is surprising in this new Ulysses discovery is that the amount of stardust has continued to increase even after the solar activity calmed down and the magnetic field resumed its ordered shape in 2001.

Scientists believe that this is due to the way in which the polarity changed during solar maximum. Instead of reversing completely, flipping north to south, the Sun's magnetic poles have only rotated at halfway and are now more or less lying sideways along the Sun's equator. This weaker configuration of the magnetic shield is letting in two to three times more stardust than at the end of the 1990s. Moreover, this influx could increase by as much as ten times until the end of the current solar cycle in 2012.

www.spaceref.com...

Then if you want to find out what could possibly have been, or be heating/warming the planets, it was recently discovered that.

Surprise In Earth's Upper Atmosphere: Mode Of Energy Transfer From The Solar Wind


www.sciencedaily.com
"Its like something else is heating the atmosphere besides the sun. This discovery is like finding it got hotter when the sun went down," said Larry Lyons, UCLA professor of atmospheric and oceanic sciences and a co-author of the research, which is in press in two companion papers in the Journal of Geophysical Research.


Notice they say something else BESIDES THE SUN is heating the atmosphere, the fluctuations of the interplanetary field is not what causes this heating, the fluctuations, and more so towards a weakening of the interplanetary magnetic field is allowing more energy from another source entering the Solar System. This other source is so powerful, or so massive that it is even affecting the distance between the Sun and the planets, and this distance is increasing. I posted a link to other research that shows there is no way they can account for this secular increase in the AU of the distance between the Sun, and the planets in the Solar System.


BTW, before you make the same claim made by others the solar wind is CARRYING this energy into the inner Solar System, it is not the cause of the warming/heating.


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posted on May, 7 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist

This is not from an encyclopedia. It has been shown to be in error by Chadwickus.


I am sorry but Chadwickus didn't prove anything at all. All he did was to make assumptions based on almost no information at all.

BTW IT IS an encyclopedia...what Charwickus said is that it wasn't encyclopedia BRITTANICA.... There is a difference, and I am not sure why he even mentioned encyclopedia Brittanica....

If the distance between all planets and the Sun is increasing by whatever is causing this secular increase in their distance, then whatever is causing this is strong enough to also pull, alongside with the Sun, the Pioneer craft which has been heading in an oposite direction. This added pull is what scientists can't understand. They can account for the pull from the Sun, but not the added pull.



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