We have our Brown Dwarf, interacting with and Bombarding asteroids of Oort against Pluto and Jupiter

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posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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This article translated from Spanish is breaking news from Australia.

What NASA is not telling us but the Starviewer Team is

Though not exactly breaking news as it appears to originate from Mysteries of the Astrophysics dated the 27th of August. you will have to excuse the babelfish translation. But it is good enough to let you know what has been found.

I could go into a big speel about this but here are a few short quotes.

They begin with the unusual orbit of Comet Russell


IMPORTANT NOTE TO 7 OF AUGUST: WE HAVE DETECTED ERRORS IN THE WORKSHEET NIII. THE CALCULATION OF THE RUSSELL ORBIT IS NOT CORRECT. THE RETROGRADE ORBIT MUST TO THE POSITION DE THE EARTH INDEED. WE VERIFIED IT YESTERDAY. ETAMOS PREPARING AN OFFICIAL NOTICE WITH THE NEW DATA. HOWEVER, THE WORKSHEET CONTINUES BEING VALID LIKE SIMULATION OF DISTURBANCE OORT-KUIPER AND POSSIBLE SCENES.



For two weeks, Pluto has undergone the impact, heating and disturbance of a new celestial body too next to its orbit. The reason: A Brown Dwarf as large as 1.9Mj than is positioned right in “Sagitario”, and that at the moment is disturbing the Pluto orbit. But not only the one of Pluto, also, she is disturbing the orbit of Jupiter, and the rest of planets of the Solar System. In fact, the Sun, has emitted CMEs during the last weeks that have brought about a displacement of our geomagnetic axis exactly in 19º, as well as an increase of the seismicity of 1.33 MW with respect to the average seismicity of year 2008, reason why “literally” the binary theory “of our Solar System” is confirmed. Something comes near, and clearly, the tip of the cloud of Oort in the zone of Sagitario, is caused by a Brown Dwarf, who in addition, can visualize in the WorldWideTelescope, (WWT), just, drawing up the Pluto orbit.


These Spanish scientists do not seem to be kidding. They continue,


If it is observed at great length, has two satellites, that can carefully be observed. This would explain the disturbances undergone by the cloud of Oort during last the three months, and by all means, the alterations that the sun is undergoing in the cycles and cosmic ray emissions. Clearly, the stellar attraction between both stars, gravitationally contracts the orbits of the rest of planets, and clearly, verify the theories of doctors Michael P. Aubry, Christopher T. Russell, and Margaret G. Kivelson as well as, the models proposed by the Dr. John. J. Matese, and Dr. John. B. Murray, and the observations realised by Doctors Geoffrey W. Marcy, and Horseradish tree. R. Oppenheimer. The model has been closed. Especially when day 17 of 2009 July, Basket affirms in a press note, That” the Asteroid belt can very have formed far from the sun “. The Basket tries to tell something to us of slanted form, but already it is an advance. There now, already it is a fact, We have our Brown Dwarf, interacting with Pluto and Bombardeando asteroids of Oort against Pluto and Jupiter. At the moment we can be calm, because the great outer planets protect to us against the asteroid impacts of Oort, but, do not prevent the gravitational contraction of 41% anticipated by Murray, Matese and Oppenhheimer.


They next attack NASA whom they accuse of hiding this information and ridiculing anyone trying to bring the truth of this matter out in the open. They name the object and even tell exactly from where it comes.


Why the NASA has waited for the 40 anniversary of mission APOLO, to tell part us of this? The information is dripping us. Something terrible, or perhaps no. The question is in the air. Why to duplicate scientific efforts on events that NASA already knew. For which NASA hopes 20 years to recognize that the Dr. Murray was right. Why to hope 20 years to corroborate the theories of doctors Michael P. Aubry, Christopher T. Russell, and Margaret G. Kivelson? And mainly… Why, just two days after the study deeper than it has realised the scientific community with pursuit in real time for the first time in history? . It is this tacit form to tell the truth us? The certain thing is that very little people will read east article. Perhaps only thousands of people will read this science, all will be pending of the 40 the very easy news of anniversary of the arrival of the man to the Moon, while a reduced group of scientists, we are trying to tell the world which today happens and the cause of it. Today, 20 of Julio of 2009, a Brown Dwarf of 1.9MJ is right intercepting the Pluto orbit literally. Its scientific denomination is: G1.9, and can be seen in WWT, Sagitario next to Pluto. Whoever, watches that it, and the one that does not want that it does not watch. The evidences are G1.9-Sagitarius there.


They detailed a brief form of the results of their investigations..

1º. - The G1.9+0.3 Object, is highly susceptible to be considered like a Body of T1.9 type, with an approximated mass of 1.9MJ, and to be located to an orbital distance that oscillates between 60UA and 66UA.

2º. - The residual heat disturbances in the phantom microwaves, reflect a temperature of 2,700 Degrees Kelvin, coming from the analyzed zone, circumstance that is explained by the methane presence. The mass analysis, in 3D, confirms, this circumstance, and additionally the image obtained by chandra, fits “exactly” in the data modeling observed.

3º. - In the infrared phantom, it can see clearly, that this blue color, corresponds with an object whose sphericity, it is demonstrated, and it shows methane, in its composition.

4º. - This Object T, comes accompanied, at least by other two orbital bodies (satellites), whose composition, mass and orbit, it is still controverted, although, both seem to be solid bodies. (Rocky).


Link to the source is
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I want to post also some material from the Original in a second post and leave a link as it has some pictures which do not seem to have come out in this australian article.

peace to you all

daz__

sorry link updated

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posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 06:34 PM
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here is a direct link to the article:

pluto story




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posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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so where exactly is this brown dwarf supposed to be?



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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Funny how no other media outlet over here has published this story yet, in fact the web site the OP linked doesnt even seem to gave thestory, and Ive certainly never heard of it until now

Edit: Thanks for the link, but Im a bit reluctant to agree with someone calling themselves starviewer team. Will have to wait and see if this is genuine, but as of yet, no other media outlet has said anything


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posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 06:47 PM
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Okay, now I certainly dont believe anything this website says after what I read in its about section



Australia.TO believes that its original content allows Australia.TO to attract and retain users who are younger, more affluent, better educated and more likely to make online purchases than typical Internet users. Australia.TO believes its user profile makes its network of websites and online communities a valuable media property for advertisers and retailers who are allocating marketing resources to target consumers online.


So they want to attract online users whomake purchases?

Something fishy there



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 06:58 PM
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Here is a link to what i believe may be the original article but it also had to be translated from the Spanish.

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peace

daz



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 06:58 PM
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okay.

first off, i have to say i can't make heads or tails of what this article is trying to convey - one reason is the nonsensical syntax and the other is the strange jargon.

if these guys are truly talented astrophysicists, no matter which country they are from, you'd think that they'd have a little better grasp on the importance of being comprehensible.

and even if their English is sorely lacking, they should be able to find a qualified translator, don't you think?


supposedly they posted this stuff back in August, hoping for independent verification from other astronomers and such, around the world, in order to show how negligent NASA's been, in allegedly keeping this from us - so, where's all the corroborating data?

some of the links go to pages with slightly better writing, as far as syntax. but still it's not very clear to me, at all

i think perhaps they are going on that old Nibiru/12th planet stuff, as the jump-off for their hypothesis?

i dunno.


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posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 06:59 PM
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Is this Brown Dwarf staying out beyond the Ort Cloud or is it going to enter the core of our system? Could this be "Nibiru"? If this is real and it is headed our way watch our folks its going to be a bumpy ride. If it isn't headed toward us we will still have to watch for Asteriods from the Ort Cloud.. look out 2012 here we come.



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:04 PM
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In my search for information I found these coords over on GLP.

I have not been able to verify them myself

The coordinates of the object located in G1 sagitarius. 9 + 3 in:
RA: 17h48m45s
Dec: - 27: 10: 00
ALT: - 25: 51: 13
AZ: 102: 49: 28

The coordinates of plutón are:
RA: 18 h: 04 m:53s
Dec: - 17: 44: 24
ALT: - 20: 35: 50
AZ: 94: 13: 31

Both two in Sagittarius,

If you are interested follow the following links to two threads

GLP1

GLP2

peace to all

daz



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:12 PM
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The following comes from one of the referenced articles from the original. At the moment I have a good few related documents open and can't remember what came from where..


An enhanced population of Oort cloud cometary major axis orientations which cluster around a "great circle" on the celestial sphere has been detected (Matese, Whitman, & Whitmire 1999). The orbital properties of these comets are corre- lated in a way that can most readily be explained as being dynamically produced by a perturber which aids the dominant tidal torque of the galactic disk in mak- ing them observable. This can create the observed overpopulation along the arc which amounts to a total increase of  25%. The possibility that the eect is due to a weak stellar impulse rather than a bound companion is also considered. We review and refute unsupported suggestions that the correlated excess population is due to observational selection eects or bad data. The putative brown dwarf has a mass  3MJ, a temperature  200K and a mean interaction distance of  25000AU. The predicted M-band ux is  2  1011JyHz which will permit direct observation in the infrared by next generation telescopes if the position of the brown dwarf along the arc can be adequately constrained.


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peace to you all

daz



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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Star and Flag to OP, good find and very very interesting.

Sailor



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:19 PM
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Hmmm, if it is true, this Russell comet causing the contraction of our solar system bodies, hence bringing them closer to the sun, and/or this brown dwarf comet is affecting the suns magnetic poles and sun spot activity, increasing its intensity?

Which brings me to this; perhaps NASA is not telling because it would perhaps blow the lid off TPTB plan to tax us all with the cap and trade scheme.

Perhaps we have a climate gate after all?

(this is a conspiracy site)



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:27 PM
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Here's the problem..

We would SEE something like that. It's huge, not some little planet..It's a STAR.

Nobody can see it...

People could see it from their backyards...they don't.

There is nothing there..

~Keeper



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Here's the problem..

We would SEE something like that. It's huge, not some little planet..It's a STAR.

Nobody can see it...

People could see it from their backyards...they don't.

There is nothing there..

~Keeper


Isn't it 3-19 times the size of jupiter? Wouldn't it appear as just a dot in sky, maybe less since it's beyond pluto?



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:36 PM
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Well ofcourse, what I am saying is that with a regular telescope you could see it.

We can't.

This whole Niburu, Brown Dwarf stuff is not real. If something exists our there it must have a cloaking device.

You can't keep something like that a secret, it's far too big.

~Keeper



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:42 PM
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Good lookin out OP



you need infrared to see it

credit DG TEMPE

Sure sounds like the same.

I sure hope this is all crap.



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posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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perhaps this is the cause:

Detailed Look at Milky Way Gobbling a Galaxy


"For only a few percent of its 240 million-year orbit around the Milky Way Galaxy does our solar system pass through the path of Sagittarius debris," Majewski said. "Remarkably, stars from Sagittarius are now raining down onto our present position in the Milky Way. Stars from an alien galaxy are relatively near us."



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Here's the problem..

We would SEE something like that. It's huge, not some little planet..It's a STAR.

Nobody can see it...

People could see it from their backyards...they don't.

There is nothing there..

~Keeper



Isn't it 3-19 times the size of jupiter? Wouldn't it appear as just a dot in sky, maybe less since it's beyond pluto?


1.9M is almost twice as big as our Sun. It's hard to imagine that we would not see it yet, even if it is a Brown Dwarf it would still reflect the rays from Sol. But, It could be that Pluto's orbit is opposite Earth's in relation to the Sun at this time which would mean that it is the furthest away from us in it's orbital cycle, that could account for the lack of visual.

Just speculating... interesting post. S&F



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by hippomchippo
 


Well ofcourse, what I am saying is that with a regular telescope you could see it.

We can't.

This whole Niburu, Brown Dwarf stuff is not real. If something exists our there it must have a cloaking device.

You can't keep something like that a secret, it's far too big.

~Keeper


At the very bottom of the original article it shows various images of the object in question and the location where it is.

here is a link to a photo of the microwave emissions of that area.


Nevertheless, with the aid of Australian astronomers, we have been able to filter the thermal radiations. “The key is in the phantom of microwaves”. If it is close, it must emit heat, and that heat must be next, 1,900 to 2700 degrees K.





shows the thermal radiations of the zone, and indeed, shows the classic configuration of a Brown Dwarf, accompanied by other stellar bodies that seem to be very next to the star. The thermal radiation is clear, and right in the zone where the disturbances in Oort are taking place. Observese, the comparison with the Gliese229A system. Definitively. It is what it seems. The thermal radiation of the zone is very strong, and is neutral in the X-ray spectrum, reason why, it obeys to the presence of methane to temperatures of 2.700Kelvin.


daz

I am sorry. I had better link to the article in question to save confusion and time

origi nal source

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posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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That guy in the video keeps saying that the Pioneer 10 & 11 missions were looking at Neptune & Uranus but that's not where they were looking. Those two missions were looking at Jupiter and it's moons. The Iras mission wasn't looking at just one spot either, it surveyed about 70% of the sky.

I'm not completely convinced that Wormwood deosn't exist, I just wish "those guys" would get their facts straight!


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