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Another Murdering Muslim Terror Attack in the USA Not Covered by the MSM!

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posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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reply to post by Violater1
 


to color all Muslims
sory I couldn’t fig out how to do the whole bold thing and I do realize you were referring to a different individual and not quoting yourself. but i think this is the line the other person is reffering to.

[edit on 9-12-2009 by drmeola]




posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Violater1
reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow
 



I would like to ad to your list "RANT."

However, did you here about this? Did anyone here about this attack?
Is it just another coincidence that he is not only a Saudi citizen, like the world trade center kamikaze pilots, but a muslim as well.
Where are the Scottish, French, German...Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Buddhist, and Jewish suicide bombers/Jihadist?


Then I could come back and ask whether you heard about the rape last night in Central Park or the murder in Southern Cal, or in Toledo of a young woman just sitting idly in her car? Did you hear about that? Did you hear about the teen that beat up some homeless guy last night in Seattle? You see, not ever crime or hate crime is covered by ALL MSM.

Doesn't mean that just because the guy is Muslim or has an Al' in his name that it is an act of terrorism.

I'm guessing 17. That's how old I am guessing you are. Because that is the way you are portraying yourself here. You aren't thinking this situation through rationally.

Many types of people hate Christians. Many Christians, aleit they are not supposed to, hate other people of 'different' religions or sexual preferences.

In other words, just because a kid in college (not the first time something like this has happened or the second or third for that matter) decides to kill a professor, does not an act of terrorism make.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:12 PM
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I am embarrassed to be a member on this site, when a thread such as this actually gets flagged and starred by users.

I am surprised such prejudice and bigotry was allowed by the mods.

I suppose i'll get the whole "free speech" line.....



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Violater1

Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by OhZone
 


As one of those "defenders of Islam" I shall respond...

I don't doubt that this was a "hate" crime... It certainly wasn't a crime of friendship.

What intrepid is saying, and I agree with him, which doesn't happen all that often on the boards, is the OP's attempt to color all Muslims with the same brush. Most Muslims do not condone these acts, any more than most Christians condone the murder of abortion providers by other so called, by themselves mostly, Christians...

Sad really, that people insist upon attempting to use such tragedies as this to push forward an agenda...


Please cut, paste and quote me in bold underline italics, where I EVER said ALL MUSLIMS.


I have never said ALL MUSLIMS. Period.
The inflammatory twisting of my words, just proves the vulnerability of the detractors of this thread. The detractors cannot find fault with this blatant observation, so they resort to the fictitious twisting of the facts. Except for FoxNews, the MSM (MSNBC, CNN, ABC,CBS, BBC NBC CBC...) has not made this a topic of news.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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Where have I prejudged anything in my thread?
Where is the Bigotry?
Please review your Elementary school dictionary before attempting to nefariously discredit someone.

I'll bet the next card from your marked deck will be the race card.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by dariousg

Originally posted by Violater1
reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow
 



I would like to ad to your list "RANT."

However, did you here about this? Did anyone here about this attack?
Is it just another coincidence that he is not only a Saudi citizen, like the world trade center kamikaze pilots, but a muslim as well.
Where are the Scottish, French, German...Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Buddhist, and Jewish suicide bombers/Jihadist?


Then I could come back and ask whether you heard about the rape last night in Central Park or the murder in Southern Cal, or in Toledo of a young woman just sitting idly in her car? Did you hear about that? Did you hear about the teen that beat up some homeless guy last night in Seattle? You see, not ever crime or hate crime is covered by ALL MSM.

Doesn't mean that just because the guy is Muslim or has an Al' in his name that it is an act of terrorism.

I'm guessing 17. That's how old I am guessing you are. Because that is the way you are portraying yourself here. You aren't thinking this situation through rationally.

Many types of people hate Christians. Many Christians, aleit they are not supposed to, hate other people of 'different' religions or sexual preferences.

In other words, just because a kid in college (not the first time something like this has happened or the second or third for that matter) decides to kill a professor, does not an act of terrorism make.


Perhaps you missed reading the link to the news report on how old the suspect is. Here is a quote from the link.
"The suspect has been identified as 46 year-old Binghamton University graduate student Abdulsalam Al-Zahrani, a Saudi national."
As you can read, he in not a typical college age kid. He's 46.
I just thought you would like to know.


[edit on 9-12-2009 by Violater1]



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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No, how can i say you're being racist when muslim isn't a race?

Also i never said "prejudged." Perhaps you should review your dictionary or at the least get some glasses.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:30 PM
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Quite frankly the Kernel is confused as to your reaction to the input to your thread. You took an instance of a Muslim killing someone, not an isolated incident and labeled it "Another Murdering Muslim Terror Attack in the USA Not Covered by the MSM!"

Muslims kill people every day. As do everyone else. Why reduce it to religion? Oooh, terror sells, right? This was not a terrorist act, hate crime? Sure. Terrorism? Bad call Amigo.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Kram09
I am embarrassed to be a member on this site, when a thread such as this actually gets flagged and starred by users.

I am surprised such prejudice and bigotry was allowed by the mods.

I suppose i'll get the whole "free speech" line.....


Sigh.

The word Prejudice and prejudge are synonymous.

Due to your lack of reprisal, you must then agree that your fallacious "Bigtory"
accusation stands.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Kram09
I am embarrassed to be a member on this site], when a thread such as this actually gets flagged and starred by users.

I am surprised such prejudice and bigotry was allowed by the mods.

I suppose i'll(sic) get the whole "free speech" line.....

If you feel so strongly about be so embarrassed, then quit being a member. It's like not watching the porn channel, you turn it off.
As for the the multiple Stars and Flags, there are other people that strongly agree with this thread. Your personal attacks only belittle the image you bring to this forum.

[edit on 9-12-2009 by Violater1]

[edit on 9-12-2009 by Violater1]



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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Age has no relevance here. Just like it doesn't matter how old the victim is in a rape or the perpetrator. Or any other violent crime for that matter.

The normal age for a murderer is not 15 yet we have a couple 15 year olds in Michigan that received life without parole in prison just last week for beating to death a couple homeless guys. You see, is that the norm?

No.

There is no true norm when it comes to crimes of rage (emotion) etc. So to lamely label this as a 'terrorist' murder is an attempt to create something out of an unfortunate event.

Also, you may, as you suggested in your previous post, pull out your elementary dictionary and look up and understand the term terrorist/terrorism.

The murder of a single person is not an act of terror. The blatant taking of multiple innocent lives or harming multiple people in the name of some war or religious belief is an act of terror.

The sad murder of a professor is simply that. A murder.



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 04:23 PM
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Murdering muslim Al-Zahrani’s roommates describe him as always putting down Christians, and Jews, while becoming threateningly confrontational.


Well well well. What have we here.

Using this criteria, I am a terrorist too.

Nice, huh? I'm not even a muslim. Maybe this is what the DHS rats mean when they refer to "potential lone wolf domestic terrorists"

[edit on 9/12/09 by PSUSA]



posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by dariousg
Also, you may, as you suggested in your previous post, pull out your elementary dictionary and look up and understand the term terrorist/terrorism.

Sigh...I did this in my first post here (Well, it was Merriam-Webster's Online, not an elementary dictionary, but still...).

I even politely asked to quietly let go of the religious/racist/prejudice/semantics/connotation angles that have engulfed this thread & tried to inject just a bare few facts to express my opinion that, no, this was not an act of terrorism (even though the Patriot Act is so broad & vague, you can bet someone will define the murder as such).
As much as I tried...



Originally posted by PSUSA
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Murdering muslim Al-Zahrani’s roommates describe him as always putting down Christians, and Jews, while becoming threateningly confrontational.


Well well well. What have we here.

Using this criteria, I am a terrorist too.

Yeah, me too...By those criteria.
I'm not an atheist, by any means, regardless of how much I've been known to put down all religions (in roughly equal measure). I'm "faithful," but not "religious," simply because all religions have their good points & they all have their bad points. It's not really Religion I put down, though...It's Organized Religion I have problems with. What I do is contemplate the good religious tenants, slough off the bad & wind up with a homogeneous harmony of the whole human spirit.

Ach! To continue, I'll have to stop getting metaphysical here...


But then again, "general society" never seems to suspect "the quiet, polite" person until they do something despicable. At that point, they then use the "quiet & polite" angle as a means of "profiling" on other people in order to start suspicion. I think it may be better to contemplate how such "unconscious profiling" got into society into the first place...How does suspicion of guilt so easily get attributed to the many who are actually innocent, just because a few bad eggs happen to carry basically the same human traits that everyone possesses?



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:57 AM
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The real irony here is that the victim was an avowed multiculturalist, trying to bridge the cultural gap between muslims and the West. His own multiculturalism was his downfall.

Sorry to say but not all philosophies, beliefs and religions have equal merit. The muslim religion is particularly dismal, with it's continuous call to smite the infidel.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 01:12 AM
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I read the article in Wednesday Boston herald.
It had a different headline.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
Sorry to say but not all philosophies, beliefs and religions have equal merit. The muslim religion is particularly dismal, with it's continuous call to smite the infidel.

I understand this very well...Or didn't you notice that I stated how I study the tenants of different religions? Here, I'll say it again, direct quote:

Originally posted by MidnightDStroyer
What I do is contemplate the good religious tenants, slough off the bad...

And you'll also note that I never said that they had equal merit either...


If you want to try to twist someone's words against them, be sure to read all of those words in the context in which they're written first.

I've been on ATS long enough to know when someone is merely trying to disseminate by twisting my words...It's a little more difficult to determine if they're doing it intentionally with purpose, rather than unconsciously in innocence though.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 01:40 AM
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Your absolutely right...everytime someone does something to someone else the media should report every possible label in front of their name...

Here, I will give an example:

"White Christian snake oil salesman fake Reverand Ted Haggard stepped down from his responsibilities today..."

Yes...that sounds much better...well done...




posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 06:40 AM
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I'm "faithful," but not "religious," simply because all religions have their good points & they all have their bad points. It's not really Religion I put down, though...It's Organized Religion I have problems with.


When Christ said "no one comes to the Father but by me", I believe him. But like you, my problem is with organized religion. It might be the worst curse ever to infest humanity. The fundies are looking for 'The" antichrist, and it's all around them.

Not all religions have their good points. There are some nasty ones out there that still do human sacrifice and other things. For example, the drug traffickers www.anthropoetics.ucla.edu... etc.

Back to topic:

Never mind. it's not worth replying to anymore.

[edit on 10/12/09 by PSUSA]



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 07:19 AM
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So when an American or Christian student kills someone, it's murder, but when a Muslim student does the same thing, it's terrorism?

I think you should read what the word 'terrorism' means, as clearly you don't understand it.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by davesidious
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So when an American or Christian student kills someone, it's murder, but when a Muslim student does the same thing, it's terrorism?

I think you should read what the word 'terrorism' means, as clearly you don't understand it.


Merrian Webster Dictionary defines the word Terrorism:

Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1795
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
— ter·ror·ist \-ər-ist\ adjective or noun
— ter·ror·is·tic \ˌter-ər-ˈis-tik\ adjective
www.merriam-webster.com...
The report is similar to the religious expressions of other
Convicted terrorist muslims: Shain, Eljvir and Dritan Duka — and Mohamad Shnewer, Serdar Tatar, Mohammad Amawi, Marwan El-Hindi and Wassim Mazloum, Abdulla Ahmed Ali, Assad Sarwar, and Tanvir Hussain, to name a few.
My definition is correct.



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