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posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder



That murdering the murderer is nothing more than hypocrisy.


no it isn't, one is the unlawful murder of some innocent, the other is the lawful execution of a deviant who does not deserve to exist amongst us because he has committed an unspeakably beastial act, such as raping and murdering a child.


You just keep telling yourself that, if you say it enough times it may come true.......


your words speak different- I dare you to go to one of these families and tell them that the act of executing their daughter's murderer is the same act as the murder of their daughter


I don't have to. Australia abolished the death penalty decades ago because of unjustness and it's propensity to be misused. I'm just sad that your country decided to remain in the dark ages and not keep up with humanity.




posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

So you finally admit you equate the two as the same, then why pray tell did you deny it for so long before I forced a virtual mirror to your words?


I never denied it, I was just laughing too hard at the fact you had to go searching in other threads to find it - that the whole point was that I had never said it in this thread and so you went and found it in another - thats called 'clutching at straws'.......



The murderer also, presumably does not wish to be locked up, but I think at the very least you wish to "lock him up", so why are you beholden to the wants of a murderer.

Take this example- a man murders a girl, the state then tries him lawfully with due legal process and decides the punishment is execution- now those who equate the lawful execution of a murder as the same as a man raping and murdering a girl are mental and moral midgets


What, just bloody what, if you delet "unlawful" then it is not capitpunishment thereby rendering the whole debate meaningless- the whole issue surrounding capital punishment is that it is LAWFUL state response to UNLAWFUL murder- such as in this case, a man unlawfully raping and murdering a child and the state saying, ok, here is our law, for those that rape and murder a child we will execute you.
MORAL DEVIANT

Bizzarre that you pick out one of the most important words in the definition- problem is you can't, it is inherent to the definition, so your whole thought process is more "wrong" than a porno with Nancy Pelosi in it
MORAL DEVIANT

Ironic, given your post to me today, which kicked off with abuse, don't like it, don't do it

No it doesn't, my personal circumstances are not the same as state punishment- hence I said that whilst I would do that personally, I would happily accept whatever the state punishment is.

In your mental and moral void you simply cannot comprehend such a basic point


Blah blah blah blah.

Whinge whinge whinge whinge.

Your "kill em all" mentality is exactly what is wrong with this planet today. People like YOU ruin it for the rest of us. You are nothing more than a selfish, arrogant, disgusting human being who would kill for his own pleasure and take take take without giving.

You disgust me.


[edit on 17/12/2009 by Kryties]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by Kryties
You just keep telling yourself that, if you say it enough times it may come true.......



makes absoloutely no sense





I don't have to. Australia abolished the death penalty decades ago because of unjustness and it's propensity to be misused. I'm just sad that your country decided to remain in the dark ages and not keep up with humanity.



Firstly, it is you making the comments about the AMerican system in this instance of an AMerican deviant being executed, so who was talking about a mythical Australian execution you weird little man.


You presume too much, I live in Britain, and our laws are shaped by a distant liberal elite who do not carry out the wishes of the majority- your country, like mine, regressed when they did away with capital punishment, we had been progressing up to that point, unless, of course you are under some weird belief that for a large part of the 20th century , Australian and the UK were in the "dark ages"- what a strange belief system



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by KrytiesBlah blah blah blah.

Whinge whinge whinge whinge.

Your "kill em all" mentality is exactly what is wrong with this planet today. People like YOU ruin it for the rest of us. You are nothing more than a selfish, arrogant, disgusting human being who would kill for his own pleasure and take take take without giving.

You disgust me.



You have been shown up for the debased, morally devoid fieldmouse you are- don't even start me on what I think of you- it is way beyond disgust.............



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

Firstly, it is you making the comments about the AMerican system in this instance of an AMerican deviant being executed, so who was talking about a mythical Australian execution you weird little man.


What exactly is the difference between executing someone in America and executing someone in Australia? Are you suggesting there is some sort of difference? And if so, how so? I'd LOVE to hear your take on this.....


You presume too much, I live in Britain, and our laws are shaped by a distant liberal elite who do not carry out the wishes of the majority


Good stuff. At least you admit that.


- your country, like mine, regressed


A point of view only, one that I do not agree with.


when they did away with capital punishment, we had been progressing up to that point, unless, of course you are under some weird belief that for a large part of the 20th century , Australian and the UK were in the "dark ages"- what a strange belief system


Up until this very point I thought you were American, something that I could not have confirmed at all until now, therefore this whole point is null and void except for the part where you assert that the death penalty stopped progression. This is also nothing more than opinion and supposition.

[edit on 17/12/2009 by Kryties]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:20 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

You have been shown up for the debased, morally devoid fieldmouse you are- don't even start me on what I think of you- it is way beyond disgust.............


OK, so more insults huh? Fieldmouse? Debased? LMFAO you are even more devoid of intelligence than I would have previously admitted up until now.

No 'human being' who considers him/herself a rationally thinking, logical human would believe that killing a killer solves anything. You are letting your emotions get in your face and THAT is exactly what is wrong with the world.





[edit on 17/12/2009 by Kryties]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by KrytiesWhat exactly is the difference between executing someone in America and executing someone in Australia? Are you suggesting there is some sort of difference? And if so, how so? I'd LOVE to hear your take on this.....


It wasn't even close to what I was suggesting, let me retrace your steps once again *sighs*

- you voluntarily posted your views on the American execution of an american child murderer

- you said you were not showing a lack of sympathy to the families

- I suggested trying out your murdering the murderer theory on the family of that little girl

- you then went doolally and said you were Australian and did not have to


we good to go now?






Good stuff. At least you admit that.


it would be bizzarre to pretend otherwise



A point of view only, one that I do not agree with.


for sure



Up until this very point I thought you were American, something that I could not have confirmed at all until now, therefore this whole point is null and void except for the part where you assert that the death penalty stopped progression. This is also nothing more than opinion and supposition.


point being, Australia and the UK were not in the "dark ages" for large parts of the 20th century when both had capital punishment



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by Kryties
OK, so more insults huh? Fieldmouse? Debased? LMFAO you are even more deviod of intelligence than I would have previously admitted up until now.


Don't like insults, don't hand them out- the fieldmouse one is a cracker I reckons






No 'human being' who considers him/herself a rationally thinking, logical human would believe that killing a killer solves anything. You are letting your emotions get in your face and THAT is exactly what is wrong with the world.


nonsense, only someone irrational could think there is anything to be solved by keeping Rober Black alive- the only thing I could think of would be the possibility of illiciting more information about possible unknown victims, but on the balance, we are enriched as a society by showing that society dissaproves child murderers so much that they will remove their right to life after due legal process- that to me is entirely rational and logical

[edit on 17-12-2009 by blueorder]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

- you voluntarily posted your views on the American execution of an american child murderer


Correct, at least this you can't lie about.


you said you were not showing a lack of sympathy to the families


Exactly. I never said I did not feel sympathy for the families - it is the opposing camp who is attempting to perpetuate this lie.


- I suggested trying out your murdering the murderer theory on the family of that little girl


And why would I do that? Are you suggesting I murder someone? Serious? Because if you are I have a Police Hotline I can call and report your ass straight to the authorities - so you may wish to clarify this before I do.


we good to go now?


You tell me mate, I have these pages screenshotted where you suggest I try the theory out on someone.....I am awaiting clarification on your point before I report your ass to the Australian Federal Police.



[edit on 17/12/2009 by Kryties]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by Kryties
Correct, at least this you can't lie about.


yes, pointing out your dodgy memory would be consistent with previous "lying"



Exactly. I never said I did not feel sympathy for the families - it is the opposing camp who is attempting to perpetuate this lie.


yes, you say this, but your words show otherwise





And why would I do that? Are you suggesting I murder someone? Serious? Because if you are I have a Police Hotline I can call and report your ass straight to the authorities - so you may wish to clarify this before I do.



You are so incredibly stupid, words cannot describe this enough- I suggest you tell the family of the murdered girl that you equate the execution of the murderer of their daughter as the same as the murder of their daughter, and you equate this with incitement to murder? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, yes, yes, report this to whatever and whomever you wish, please do, I only wish I was a fly on the wall as the laughter kicks in



You tell me mate, I have these pages screenshotted where you suggest I try the theory out on someone.....I am awaiting clarification on your point before I report your ass to the Australian Federal Police.
[edit on 17/12/2009 by Kryties]



You have just incited me to assassinate Jews, double dare me to report you to INTERPOL buwaahahahahahahah


Do what you want you weirdo, I asked you to try out your "murdering the murder" theory by telling the family of that poor murdered child that their daughter's murder is the same as the execution of the murder, and you post that

once again


BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:48 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

yes, pointing out your dodgy memory would be consistent with previous "lying"


LMAO the question was asked if you could find anywhere IN THIS THREAD that I said such things, you went searching elsewhere.


yes, you say this, but your words show otherwise


Please, enlighten me as to where I said I do do not feel sympathy for the families. Anywhere - please quote me - this means ANYWHERE ON THIS SITE AND ON THE INTERNET AS A WHOLE. Good luck with that. When you fail I will be there to laugh my ass off at your failure.



You are so incredibly stupid, words cannot describe this enough- I suggest you tell the family of the murdered girl that you equate the execution of the murderer of their daughter as the same as the murder of their daughter, and you equate this with incitement to murder?


Your words were this: "I suggested trying out your murdering the murderer theory on the family of that little girl "

Tell your story to the police, they will probably care more than I do.



You have just incited me to assassinate Jews, double dare me to report you to INTERPOL buwaahahahahahahah


Where did I incite this violence against Jews? Please quote me or this is yet another BS insult or supposition.




[edit on 17/12/2009 by Kryties]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by Kryties
LMAO the question was asked if you could find anywhere IN THIS THREAD that I said such things, you went searching elsewhere.


again, makes no sense




Please, enlighten me as to where I said I do do not feel sympathy for the families. Anywhere - please quote me - this means ANYWHERE ON THIS SITE AND ON THE INTERNET AS A WHOLE. Good luck with that. When you fail I will be there to laugh my ass off at your failure.


your words of "Murdering the murderer" and equating the acts as the same are the evidence for that





Your word were this: "I suggested trying out your murdering the murderer theory on the family of that little girl "

Tell your story to the police, they will probably care more than I do.



buwahahahahahahah, yes this is what I will do, buwahahahahahahah- I think you should be telling your doctor that you are fantasising that people are inciting you to murder


You have been told that the comment was used for you to explain your relativism to the family of the murdered girl, if you choose to imagine that it is some call to murder then knock yourself out, report it to the FBI, NASA etc, Im sure they could all do with a laugh


buwahahahahahah

*notices a policeman in a cork hat at his window and panics*

Doesn't even work on any level- "murdering the murderer", in the context as you put it, would mean the state execution of a murderer, are you suggesting that I suggest you become the "state" and carry out the execution of a murderer after due legal process (or in your eyes "murdering the murderer")


buwahahahahahahahah



Where did I incite this violence against Jews? Please quote me or this is yet another BS insult or supposition.


If you can make up false allegations above I will do likewise, NOW STOP TELLING ME TO MURDER HOMOSEXUALS OR I WILL SEND THESE SCREENSHOTS TO THE POLICE!



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 05:57 AM
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I stopped posting on this thread oh...5 pages ago when i realised that those who were "pro-murder" (in any form) were impossible to reason with.

It is futile to enter a debate with them.

regarding people speaking with their emotions instead of their minds, this is a trap which many professional debaters will either try to incite in their opponent, try to avoid at all costs, or both.

If you want to learn how to navigate a debate to its end, without losing your cool, I can recommend nothing more highly than the philosophies of Aikido.

If you can get those aikido philosophies & techniques down, you won't get pulled into these horrible verbal conflicts any more. and its not that hard, If I can learn them, you can too.

It is sad that some people can't get past this insane 'eye for an eye' mentality, and the statements being made by that camp are plain disgusting bordering on scary. But the people making these statements aren't understanding where they're going wrong and I doubt there is any reasonable, rational way to explain it to them.

I think mostly now as I check back to this thread and see the passionate & unsuccessful debates going on right now, "where are the mods?"

because if this thread doesn't constitute a discussion "getting out of hand", makes me wonder how bad it has to get....that series of 'closed' 9/11 threads must've been rather slanderous & virulent to be deleted/closed whilst this one continues...

-B.M

P.S)
No one here is sympathetic to a criminals 'need' to commit whatever crime got them stuck on death row in that moment.

thats at least one thing everyone here can agree on


But the criminal is not the crime.
I am not the clothes I wear. etc....
dealing with the root of the 'crime'
is what people should direct their energy at,
because when you support murdering the murderer,
there is ALWAYS a chance (especially with the nonsense legal system the WORLD has to deal with at the moment) that the murderer was wrongly convicted & you just murdered an innocent man.

because the only difference between the "murderer man"
and the "pro-murder by capitol punishment man",
is whether the "soon to be dead man"
is labelled 'innocent' or not by the society involved.

society has gotten many things wrong since the birth of the materialist & continues to do many things in a twisted warped kind of way,
I wouldn't trust the general public with my own life....
I don't trust the general public to know what to do with anyone else's life either, and at the end of the day, they have no right to decide someone else's future for them.

You could argue (and probably will) that the society has rules which are explained and if you don't want to follow them then you must suffer the consequences which you were also probably were aware of...
looking for the most economic & appropriate solution for dealing with the rule breakers, I see 'exile'.

not 'murder'.

the moment in which the person was a threat,
is not the same as the moment he's strapped into a chair, etc....
in that moment (in the chair) he could be a saint,
watching a roomful of life,
direct all their pent up energy,
into the act of his death.

Its a release for all involved...
a sick....
twisted...
release.

which is a product of environmental influence,
brain washing...control through expectation...

To know yourself, is the key to understanding my point of view.

[edit on 17/12/09 by B.Morrison]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

again, makes no sense


What? I asked if you could provide proof that I said something in a particular thread and you went searching elsewhere, in another thread, to find it? What part about that is so hard to understand? Perhaps you should write it down somewhere and read it over a few times - that way you would not look like someone who has just completely lost all intelligence they may or may not have had.




Please, enlighten me as to where I said I do do not feel sympathy for the families. Anywhere - please quote me - this means ANYWHERE ON THIS SITE AND ON THE INTERNET AS A WHOLE. Good luck with that. When you fail I will be there to laugh my ass off at your failure.


your words of "Murdering the murderer" and equating the acts as the same are the evidence for that


Are you serious? What planet do you live on that "I feel sympathy for the victims" actually means the opposite? You are really clutching at straws now mate.....



Your word were this: "I suggested trying out your murdering the murderer theory on the family of that little girl "


Right, so i'm actually 'seeing things' now am I? The clearly typed English that you wrote suggests that I murder someone.....



If you can make up false allegations above I will do likewise, NOW STOP TELLING ME TO MURDER HOMOSEXUALS OR I WILL SEND THESE SCREENSHOTS TO THE POLICE!


Please quote where I suggested you murder homosexuals - I quoted your murder suggestion, now you quote mine. I bet you cannot.

Hypocrite.

[edit on 17/12/2009 by Kryties]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 07:30 AM
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I'm Pro-DP.
I'm also not overly concerned if it's *painless* or not painless.
The death sentence is a punishment, not a trip to Disneyland.
Punishments are supposed to be painful.

That being said I spent quite a while investigating the death penalty before I came to those conclusions and in and around my *investigation* I found this video series: BBC Horizon: How to Kill a Human Being.

I strongly suggest anyone who's interested in this topic, either for or against the DP take a look at these 5 videos. (Note: This is a documentary, not some sensational trash, so, no worry about blood and guts etc.)

As for the new drug this thread is based on? If this one drug is a wonder, cheap and works, use it - and more often.

If not, video number 5 offers a near perfect solution.

For those of you who are uninterested in educating yourselves, or are unable to watch the videos, the documentary explores the many ways authorities have used to execute convicted criminals, and, the pros and cons for each. (Cost, convenience, humane methods etc)

The documentary concludes with a *near to perfect* way to execute a living being: The use of inert gasses to replace oxygen, gasses with no smell, taste or physical sensation.

In a study using farm animals, they truly do *go to sleep* painlessly.

More pointedly, a study with pigs: Apples were left in a contained in which the pigs could force their heads into, completely voluntarily (to get the apples of course) and this contain not only was airtight but the air inside was replaced with said inert gasses (Aragonite Oxygen?).

The pigs would rush into the study room, stick their heads through the hole, and after feeding for a very short while would drop like they'd been pole axed.

Proof it's non-irritating, painless, etc? Once the pigs regained consciousness they went right back to sticking their heads through the holes to eat the apples.

The study also showed the cost was next to nothing, and, the gear to administer the *hypoxia*? A simple as a face mask.

BBC Horizon: How To Kill a Human Being

















Thank you for this thread. I've been wanting to start one of exactly it's kind for quite a while, but, have just not been up to the challenge with my internet connection still on the fritz.

peace


[edit on 17-12-2009 by silo13]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 07:33 AM
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reply to post by silo13
 


Off ya go then, try it yourself and get back to us on how it went.....


Didn't think so.



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 07:57 AM
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Off ya go then, try it yourself and get back to us on how it went.....
Didn't think so.


Didn't think so? No? Then you didn't think at all.

I'd stand in line to prove it's a painless, cost efficient and a humane method just like the guy in the documentary did.

Sure I would. Then you bleeding hearts would stop worrying about the *pain* the baby rapist and murderer might feel and not hesitate to put him/her where they belong - 6 feet underground.

Here's in hopes this new drug works.

If so, IMO it should be listed as one of the top ten greatest inventions of this decade.

If it doesn't work - there's always hypoxia.


peace

[edit on 17-12-2009 by silo13]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by KrytiesWhat? I asked if you could provide proof that I said something in a particular thread and you went searching elsewhere, in another thread, to find it? What part about that is so hard to understand? Perhaps you should write it down somewhere and read it over a few times - that way you would not look like someone who has just completely lost all intelligence they may or may not have had.


erm yes, it makes no sense in that I proved you wrong, yet you continue to peddle your inanery



Are you serious? What planet do you live on that "I feel sympathy for the victims" actually means the opposite? You are really clutching at straws now mate.....


it is completely contradicted by your comments of "Murdering the murderer"



Your word were this: "I suggested trying out your murdering the murderer theory on the family of that little girl "

Right, so i'm actually 'seeing things' now am I? The clearly typed English that you wrote suggests that I murder someone.....



Yes, your understanding makes no sense- the family of that little girl are not the "Murderer"- the murderer has been executed, it has been highlighted how you have invented an incitement to murder out of thing air- I WILL REPEAT IT AGAIN

TEST YOUR THEORY WITH THE FAMILY OF THAT LITTLE GIRL- TELL THEM YOU FEEL HER DEATH IS THE SAME AS THE DEATH OF THAT CHILD MURDERER- LET ME SEE HOW THEY VIEW YOUR SYMPATHY

Also, if you view that as incitement to murder you are quite possibly insane so I urge you to screen shot what you like and take it to who you like- I DO NOT CARE, BECAUSE YOU ARE CLEARLY UNSTABLE, now take it to who you like you madman




Please quote where I suggested you murder homosexuals - I quoted your murder suggestion, now you quote mine. I bet you cannot.


You did not quote a murder suggestion, so I repeat, I am reporting you to the UK/EUROPEAN/AUSTRALIAN authorities for incitement to genocide of Homosexuals and Jews- expect to be bundled into a darkened car by the relevant authorities and tried in the Tower of London next week matey!



Hypocrite.


MADMAN FIELDMOUSE DULLARD- screen shot that and take it to your leader


[edit on 17-12-2009 by blueorder]



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by Kryties

Off ya go then, try it yourself and get back to us on how it went.....


Didn't think so.



INCITEMENT TO SUICIDE!


I AM SCREEN SHOTTING THIS AND SENDING IT TO EVERY POLICE AUTHORITY IN THE WORLD



you are a very funny man- head for the hills!



posted on Dec, 17 2009 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Kryties
 

Off ya go then, try it yourself and get back to us on how it went.....
Didn't think so.


Didn't think so? No? Then you didn't think at all.

I'd stand in line to prove it's a painless, cost efficient and a humane method just like the guy in the documentary did.

Sure I would. Then you bleeding hearts would stop worrying about the *pain* the baby rapist and murderer might feel and not hesitate to put him/her where they belong - 6 feet underground.

Here's in hopes this new drug works.

If so, IMO it should be listed as one of the top ten greatest inventions of this decade.

If it doesn't work - there's always hypoxia.


peace

[edit on 17-12-2009 by silo13]


You've got me thinking dammit. Ok so I actually know exactly what method you're talking about with that gas. But I learnt about it from a completely different source, it was actually a how to kill yourself/painless suicide video done by a man who then preceded to kill himself with the explained method. it is not by any stretch of the imagination a 'snuff' film or anything like it. He doesn't actually go through with anything on camera. He only did an instructional video for the benefit of his immediate friends who were, like him, suffering illness from which they would soon die of anyway. Think there was a big controversy around it too...could probably google it.

anyway point is, I know it is the most humane death, so to speak, I would wish this method of dying over so many others, for my friends & family, y'know? like how could you prefer they drown or have a heart attack or any of the other painful option....ah but see...now here comes my esoteric side...and my theories of the universe...and they're telling me that everyone dies how they're supposed to...which is actually horrible when you think about it, because it means victims of atrocious crime resulting in fatality, were somehow 'meant' to experience that death...which is the catch 22 of many religions & spiritual philosophies isn't it...but still, whilst it may be a horrible thing to think....I lean towards it being true anyway. sucks but thats the only theory that doesn't come to me with any sensations of doubt.

So then....if we are all to live out our life experiences, to learn a lesson..to fill another 'chunk' of soul as we reincarnate our way to becoming an 'advanced' being......even if your entire life sucks major arse...even if thats a literal statement i just made....should we just do as the beetles song and...let it be?

no praise, no blame, it just 'is'?

maybe not.

after you mentioned 'baby rapists' I kinda had to stop for a minute and say "do I really need or want baby rapists in my world?".....no. no I do not.

But not simply because I dislike/hate them, see because I hate lots of things and don't need to kill them.

It's because I can't see a purpose for them...
see because I hate cockroaches but I know they're needed for a functioning ecosystem...and they're tough as nails....but can the same be said about a baby rapist?
do they have 'a place'?

what would happen to the people who put the bad guys in jail...if there were no bad guys?

.....maybe its about balance right,
but instead of these black & white perspectives I just mentioned,
we pull back things on both sides,
maybe we don't need the "extremes" of good OR evil...
imagine it like a see saw,
good on one side, bad on the other,
if niether side jumped so high, or got so 'extreme'
things would calm right down, the ups & downs would be less 'up & down'
the really nasty characters would be replaced with less intense versions.....then again...the see saw is a more fun ride the higher you jump...

I'm not getting anywhere (fast) with these trains of though & somewhere along the way it turned into a ramble...
but I think there's a point of interest or two above so i'll post anyway...

peace

-B.M

P.S)
actually I just had a thought, maybe the baby rapist was meant to be that, so that I could hate him, and someone else could kill him, and we could all have a good hard think about our actions in the afterlife...
before reincarnating again? I think it possible...

[edit on 17/12/09 by B.Morrison]

P.P.S) just figured something out, death penalty is no good. picture a theatre, thousands of seated people in the audience, all general public, now lets say there is a host who runs through a criminals crimes & history & then the criminal is there on stage ready for the lethal injection, lets say the crowd are so put off by hearing about his crimes that they beg for the guy to be killed already just so they don't have to know about the awful stuff he did anymore, then he dies and the people see that all thats left is a sack of meat and that the 'mind/soul/person' responcible for the actions, is now free through death, you just gave him his freedom...what kind of punishment is that? that certainly doesn't punish the criminal. probably won't heal the audiences hurting completely either.

so how do we punish these people? I think we need some kind of 'thing' that FORCES them to face up to the reality of what they've done and who they really are, make them so repulsed by themselves it hurts, make them understand your point of view, because to live with the feeling of your victims and all associated, is a worse punishment than death by a long shot.

also to bring reincarnation into that theory, if we're all here to learn stuff, then perhaps a life sentence is the better option because it gives them a chance to think about what they've done & learn something to take with them to the afterlife...why even care about that? well, because if we kill them before they've learnt from their mistakes, they might have to come back and repeat all the same mistakes all over again until they eventually DO learn....

food for thought....

[edit on 17/12/09 by B.Morrison]

P.P.P.S) bahahaha I just realised such a 'thing' exists already in science fiction...anyone remember the 'point of view' gun from hitch hikers guide to the galaxy?

[edit on 17/12/09 by B.Morrison]



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