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Originally posted by Snarf
Except that the land has been stolen, over and over and over again. How far back is acceptable to go before it is said "these are the first people here" ?
Do you really think nobody inhabited these lands pre colonial days? Do you really think that Native Americans are the ONLY people who lived here before the pilgrims?
Originally posted by FritosBBQTwist
This is 1.4B worth of dollars that can be spent on anything. Unless these Indians start their own business (which I get the feeling many will not), they will spend it on whatever goods they wish.
Raises demand for said goods, yet supply remains the same...
AKA, after so much of this BS, the prices go up and the real value of the rest of our money goes down.
Does that sound right to everybody?
the Interior Department will distribute a fund of $1.4 billion to more than 300,000 tribe members
Originally posted by CowboyDrifter
The thing that really pisses me off is the older generations that hate me because im a white even tho Im trying to help and provide a positive role model for their children.
Originally posted by dolphinfan
The whole native American business is a joke.
Who is 'they'? Not all tribes have casinos. Is it just the ones who have used capitalizm to their advantage that you have a problem with or are you racist against us all?
They have gambling rights and make a ton of money running casinos.
They all get a check in the mail from uncle sam every month for every man/woman and child.
Originally posted by angrysniper
I don't have a problem with who they're giving the money to and why.. but I DO have a problem with where they're taking the money FROM.
As the original Native landholders died, successive generations received smaller undivided interests in the same parcels of land, meaning today there may be dozens, hundreds, even thousands of Indian owners per one parcel of land. Consequently, very few individual owners can obtain meaningful financial benefits from their land.
Originally posted by chise61
I think it's great that they've won their case and will receive some of the money that they are owed. The only problem is that it couldn't come at a worse time for the taxpayers, and honestly I don't see what good it's going to do for them given that the money that they'll receive isn't worth the paper that it's printed on.
This sounds like the same case that there was a thread about last year, if it is I remember them saying that they wanted all their land back and were trying to go back to their old ways of living off the land. I hope they do, the less they have to deal with & depend on this corrupt government the better off they'll be.
Originally posted by Snarf
Case in point - where I'm from - a native American tribe called the "Illini" which were wiped out by other American Indian tribes.
It just angers me to see our government pay them by taking it from me.
The "native Americans" were invaded by several nations and organizations over a period of several hundred years. The United States did not act alone in this massacre. The United States did not even exist when it began.
Why is the United States responsible for this "debt"?
The trust began in 1887 with the General Allotment Act (or the Dawes Act), when tribal lands were divided into parcels (between 40 and 320 acres) and allotted to individual Indians, with the remaining land (ultimately about 90 million acres) sold off to non-Native interests. The Interior Department was assigned to manage grazing, timber and oil and gas drilling on the land, and was to pay Indians royalties for those activities.