reply to post by Echo3Foxtrot
Then apparently this is you:
"Seriously? Do you think we have a choice when they send us over there? "
Yes, you do have a choice. You may face punishment but you do have a choice.
"Yeah, we can refuse and go to the brig. Yeah, we can get kicked out with a Big Chicken Dinner(Bad Conduct Discharge) and have a black mark on our
names for the rest of our lives and never get a decent job."
Not getting a decent job is a fraction of the suffering that the people you aid to kill have to go through. You live in the richest country in the
history of the world so saying that you have to kill people to make a living is a super poor excuse.
"Yeah, we can go UA(Unauthorized Absence) and be on the run for the rest of our lives until the government finds us and sends us to the brig for not
doing the duty that we WILLINGLY signed up to do."
You willingly signed away your freedom to join the military. Now, you live with the consequences of having less freedoms.
No matter what though, you still keep your freedom of choice. That's what your 'soul' is and you never lose that (I'm an atheist and don't
believe in souls so I'm obviously speaking metaphorically here).
"You are not a warrior."
Not professionally but if the time came to defend my freedoms, I assure you that I would become one very quickly. I'm not a pacifist.
" I'm not much of one either for that matter, even though I'm a Marine. BUT I am in the mind set that if I have to fight to protect what I love, I
There is nothing wrong with fighting to protect yourself and your friends and family. There is a lot wrong with fighting to steal natural resources
and ensure profits of corporations and individuals.
" You, like I said, are not a warrior, you were not born with the strength or body, heart, and mind. "
I definitely have the strength, body and heart. The 'problem' is that I was born with too much mind to become a universal soldier.
"I don't know how many times I can emphasize that people don't really understand the mentality of the men and women who join the military because
they have never been in out shoes."
People in the military act as if they have no choice and blindly follow the orders of superiors. If they didn't, there would be no Iraq conflicct
I understand the concept of defense. If our military functioned as a defense force, I'd volunteer.
Unfortunately, it functions as a government subsidized mafia that protects and expands the profits of people and corporations who control it. I could
never kill for someone else's profit and will never understand on a fundamental level what makes our soldiers like you willingly do it.
[edit on 12/13/09 by RedDragon]