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Topic started on 7-12-2009 @ 11:35 PM by mnemeth1
Fascist Soup reports:

Seriously.

I mean how much more damning evidence do you need?

Our entire government is run by a bunch of fascist pigs that do nothing but bend over backwards for international corporations and commercial banks.

Gore + Enron = Cap and Tax Creators

Goldman Craps = Carbon Derivatives Ponzi Regulator more here.

GE + Westinghouse Energy = Lobby For Cap and Tax (of course, they own the major TV networks which support the endless stream of anti-humanist agitprop)

Goldman Craps = Trillions In Fraud and an Oil Scam

Goldman Craps = Billions Looted In Bailouts

Goldman Craps = The Reason Obama Was Elected

Shell Oil = Strategic Partner For The CRU

JP Morgan and Goldman Craps = Authors Of Carbon Derivatives Legislation

Healthcare Bill = 250,000 Fine And 5 Years In Prison For Not Buying Private Insurance Coverage


God I love democrats and republicans, they really know how to ram a fascist police state down the public’s throat.






[edit on 8-12-2009 by mnemeth1]


reply posted on 7-12-2009 @ 11:37 PM by IceDash
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Fascist Soup reports:

Seriously.

I mean how much more damning evidence do you need?

Our entire government is run by a bunch of fascist pigs that do nothing but bend over backwards for international corporations and commercial banks.

Gore + Enron = Cap and Tax Creators

Goldman Craps = Carbon Derivatives Ponzi Regulator more here.

GE + Westinghouse Energy = Lobby For Cap and Tax (of course, they own the major TV networks which support the endless stream of anti-humanist agitprop)

Goldman Craps = Trillions In Fraud

Goldman Craps = Billions Looted In Bailouts

Goldman Craps = The Reason Obama Was Elected

Shell Oil = Strategic Partner For The CRU

JP Morgan and Goldman Craps = Authors Of Carbon Derivatives Legislation

Healthcare Bill = 250,000 Fine And 5 Years In Prison For Not Buying Private Insurance Coverage


God I love democrats and republicans, they really know how to ram a fascist police state down the public’s throat.


I agree but unforunately, people will not stand up and fight, people are too busy looking for jobs, or other things.

Our worst enemies is "stress"...


reply posted on 7-12-2009 @ 11:50 PM by GORGANTHIUM
reply to post by mnemeth1


Money,power,greed and control.That sums it up in four words.



reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 12:03 AM by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by IceDash


You are correct, but there comes a point where they just push people back into a corner and the people push back.


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 12:14 AM by endisnighe
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by IceDash


You are correct, but there comes a point where they just push people back into a corner and the people push back.


Yes, ever see a badger backed into a corner.

I feel like the badger my dogs caught in the garage under a cabinet when growing up.

And a lot more people are feeling the same way.

Intentional?



They keep pushing, pushing, pushing. When is someone going to snap and usher in the new USSA martial law plan?


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 12:21 AM by IceDash
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by IceDash


You are correct, but there comes a point where they just push people back into a corner and the people push back.
well it sad, our "declaration of independence" said we can outthrow such government, we are allow to throw them away if they corrupt this wonderful county...we are not doing it..


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 12:21 AM by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by endisnighe


The problem with that is the logistics of it are incredibly insane. They will have to disarm us first. People are so on edge right now that there is no way they can disarm the American populous before words gets out that it is going down. even if they were to use Chinese troops. China's military is only 2 million strong plus lots of other factors.

But they already know all this and they want a war because they are actually stupid enough to think they can win. It likens back to a thread posted earlier today about Groupthink. And consequently those lucky enough to survive will get to witness it's downfall.


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 12:43 AM by digitalBreakfast
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Fascist Soup reports:

Seriously.

I mean how much more damning evidence do you need?

Our entire government is run by a bunch of fascist pigs that do nothing but bend over backwards for international corporations and commercial banks.

Gore + Enron = Cap and Tax Creators

Goldman Craps = Carbon Derivatives Ponzi Regulator more here.

GE + Westinghouse Energy = Lobby For Cap and Tax (of course, they own the major TV networks which support the endless stream of anti-humanist agitprop)

Goldman Craps = Trillions In Fraud and an Oil Scam

Goldman Craps = Billions Looted In Bailouts

Goldman Craps = The Reason Obama Was Elected

Shell Oil = Strategic Partner For The CRU

JP Morgan and Goldman Craps = Authors Of Carbon Derivatives Legislation

Healthcare Bill = 250,000 Fine And 5 Years In Prison For Not Buying Private Insurance Coverage


God I love democrats and republicans, they really know how to ram a fascist police state down the public’s throat.





[edit on 7-12-2009 by mnemeth1]




You are so right!!!! ok now our eyes have been opened.. what is your plan to lead us into victory over these corporate jerks and victory over our own stupidity... im so excited that someone finally has the wisdom and knowledge to share with the people so that we can bring in a new paradigm... i eagerly await your next move... im so glad im not stupid anymore


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 12:45 AM by IceDash
Originally posted by digitalBreakfast
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Fascist Soup reports:

Seriously.

I mean how much more damning evidence do you need?

Our entire government is run by a bunch of fascist pigs that do nothing but bend over backwards for international corporations and commercial banks.

Gore + Enron = Cap and Tax Creators

Goldman Craps = Carbon Derivatives Ponzi Regulator more here.

GE + Westinghouse Energy = Lobby For Cap and Tax (of course, they own the major TV networks which support the endless stream of anti-humanist agitprop)

Goldman Craps = Trillions In Fraud and an Oil Scam

Goldman Craps = Billions Looted In Bailouts

Goldman Craps = The Reason Obama Was Elected

Shell Oil = Strategic Partner For The CRU

JP Morgan and Goldman Craps = Authors Of Carbon Derivatives Legislation

Healthcare Bill = 250,000 Fine And 5 Years In Prison For Not Buying Private Insurance Coverage


God I love democrats and republicans, they really know how to ram a fascist police state down the public’s throat.





[edit on 7-12-2009 by mnemeth1]




You are so right!!!! ok now our eyes have been opened.. what is your plan to lead us into victory over these corporate jerks and victory over our own stupidity... im so excited that someone finally has the wisdom and knowledge to share with the people so that we can bring in a new paradigm... i eagerly await your next move... im so glad im not stupid anymore
sadly, this is the reason why american will fail...


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 01:14 AM by digitalBreakfast
Originally posted by IceDash
Originally posted by digitalBreakfast
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Fascist Soup reports:

Seriously.

I mean how much more damning evidence do you need?

Our entire government is run by a bunch of fascist pigs that do nothing but bend over backwards for international corporations and commercial banks.

Gore + Enron = Cap and Tax Creators

Goldman Craps = Carbon Derivatives Ponzi Regulator more here.

GE + Westinghouse Energy = Lobby For Cap and Tax (of course, they own the major TV networks which support the endless stream of anti-humanist agitprop)

Goldman Craps = Trillions In Fraud and an Oil Scam

Goldman Craps = Billions Looted In Bailouts

Goldman Craps = The Reason Obama Was Elected

Shell Oil = Strategic Partner For The CRU

JP Morgan and Goldman Craps = Authors Of Carbon Derivatives Legislation

Healthcare Bill = 250,000 Fine And 5 Years In Prison For Not Buying Private Insurance Coverage


God I love democrats and republicans, they really know how to ram a fascist police state down the public’s throat.





[edit on 7-12-2009 by mnemeth1]




You are so right!!!! ok now our eyes have been opened.. what is your plan to lead us into victory over these corporate jerks and victory over our own stupidity... im so excited that someone finally has the wisdom and knowledge to share with the people so that we can bring in a new paradigm... i eagerly await your next move... im so glad im not stupid anymore
sadly, this is the reason why american will fail...




Meaning.........


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 01:29 AM by LSDomino
reply to post by mnemeth1


Since were so dumb please tell us smarty what exactly should be done? (pointed at facist soup not my man mnemeth1)

writing letters? hahahaha no
revolt? yea about that (organization? apathy? america?)

No really lets brainstorm and do something constructive! please ats i beg all of you
Any ideas?


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 02:26 AM by digitalBreakfast
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by digitalBreakfast

You are so right!!!! ok now our eyes have been opened.. what is your plan to lead us into victory over these corporate jerks and victory over our own stupidity... im so excited that someone finally has the wisdom and knowledge to share with the people so that we can bring in a new paradigm... i eagerly await your next move... im so glad im not stupid anymore


I'm doing it.

Its called sharing information and waking people up.

When enough people wake up, you get a revolution.

Your job is to start a web blog, submit comments to news article sections, write letters to the editor, write letters to your congressman, create videos detailing the corruption and share them with your friends and family, start a non-profit organization to accept funding that promotes libertarian ideals, run for a local office, hold your local officials accountable and demand they nullify federal laws that violate the constitution, etc.. etc.. etc..

There, now hop to it.

That should keep you busy for a while.


[edit on 8-12-2009 by mnemeth1]




ya blogging that will show them. if you were really as awake as you think you are you would know that the actions you advise are like throwing rocks at a tank. im not saying its hopeless but I would be shocked if do it yourself videos or being on the board of my local whatever will make the elite shake in their boots.. i mean good for you for trying but the revolution is built up in your head.. like the kids in the 60s who thought they were "changing the world" but the machine hardly flinched.. i mean really in your quest for justice what officials have youheld accountable.. or what victory can you share with us to show that "waking people up" has done anything.. thats not a insult if there is something to share im actually totally ready to hear. you should look up the topic of doublethink. Just because people are "aware" they are getting f-ed doesnt mean they are over coming it.


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 02:39 AM by mnemeth1
Originally posted by digitalBreakfast
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by digitalBreakfast

You are so right!!!! ok now our eyes have been opened.. what is your plan to lead us into victory over these corporate jerks and victory over our own stupidity... im so excited that someone finally has the wisdom and knowledge to share with the people so that we can bring in a new paradigm... i eagerly await your next move... im so glad im not stupid anymore


I'm doing it.

Its called sharing information and waking people up.

When enough people wake up, you get a revolution.

Your job is to start a web blog, submit comments to news article sections, write letters to the editor, write letters to your congressman, create videos detailing the corruption and share them with your friends and family, start a non-profit organization to accept funding that promotes libertarian ideals, run for a local office, hold your local officials accountable and demand they nullify federal laws that violate the constitution, etc.. etc.. etc..

There, now hop to it.

That should keep you busy for a while.


[edit on 8-12-2009 by mnemeth1]




ya blogging that will show them. if you were really as awake as you think you are you would know that the actions you advise are like throwing rocks at a tank. im not saying its hopeless but I would be shocked if do it yourself videos or being on the board of my local whatever will make the elite shake in their boots.. i mean good for you for trying but the revolution is built up in your head.. like the kids in the 60s who thought they were "changing the world" but the machine hardly flinched.. i mean really in your quest for justice what officials have youheld accountable.. or what victory can you share with us to show that "waking people up" has done anything.. thats not a insult if there is something to share im actually totally ready to hear. you should look up the topic of doublethink. Just because people are "aware" they are getting f-ed doesnt mean they are over coming it.


Well, that's a great defeatist attitude you got there.

Ask the people in the inner city why they don't go to college, get a job, etc.. etc.. and you'll get essentially the same response.

Its too hard, it doesn't work, its not worth it, people are racist so I'm not even going to bother trying, etc.. etc.. etc..

3% fought in the American revolution.

2 million attended the tea party in DC.


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 03:49 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Civil Disobedience, written by Henry David Thoreau, was first published in 1949. While the first meaningful rebellion in India against British rule was 1857 it is unlikely Thoreau's book had any influence on India at that time. Although the Rebellions of 1857-1858 seemingly had little effect on ending British rule they marked the first time that the indigenous people of India organized in a meaningful way to end British rule. The rebellions led to the rise of Indian nationalism, and by the time Gandhi had returned to India in 1915, after spending some twenty years as an ex patriot in South Africa where he perfected the strategy of satygraha, (a form of non violent resistance inspired by the teachings of Baba Ram Singh), he returned to India and began the long, slow and painful process of implementing this strategy in India, that ultimately led to the end of British rule. Gandhi had read Thoreau's seminal work and praised it openly.

The point of this narrow and abridged history lesson is to make clear that ideas of liberty and resistance to tyranny have lasting power that long outlive those who propose or advocate it. Some even live long enough to see their own advocacy shape revolutions that are victorious. Thomas Payne's Common Sense was first published in 1776 and was an instant best seller and regarded as very influential in inspiring residents of the Colonies, then ruled by Britain as well, to revolt against the Crown of England. There was no internet to help make the work go viral, no television to promote it, just the true and genuine desire by people to life life with liberty and with the right to pursue property and happiness.

Both the use of military force and non violent resistance have their place in revolutions and one or the other can be effective enough to bring about victory. Both combined are extremely potent tools in defeating tyranny and long before any violent military strategy is employed many people already begin their own form of non violent resistance to tyranny. As long as people are "going along in order to get along" they are contributing to the very tyranny they despise. That is, for those who despise it and it should be recognized that many people will actually side with tyranny and even fight for its survival. However, for those who despise it, perhaps the first most effective step towards defeating tyranny is quietly and respectfully declining to co-operate.

Just because there is currently legislation being debated that threatens to fine and/or imprison people who do not comply with demands of purchasing insurance, doesn't mean that in the event the Senate passes this dubious act that people have to comply. Even if they are arrested and brought to trial, they will still, presumably, have the right to a trial by jury and can and should do all they can to convince that jury that they are not criminals and have the right to make their own health care decisions regardless of what legislation might say and the jury has an absolute and plenary power of acquittal. Juries, peers of the people brought before them, do not have to convict people and shouldn't if the legislation that brought a person before them is repugnant to liberty and unalienable rights.

There is much that can be done to oppose tyranny and for those who care enough, it should be done. As to those who don't care enough and even enjoy openly ridiculing those who do care, what ultimate contribution or difference do these people make? How influential are they, really, in halting revolutions? They represent the dying gasps of people whose principles and ethics are recognized universally to be questionable and hardly worth the acknowledgment.


reply posted on 8-12-2009 @ 04:17 AM by andrewh7
Originally posted by IceDash
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by IceDash

You are correct, but there comes a point where they just push people back into a corner and the people push back.
well it sad, our "declaration of independence" said we can outthrow such government, we are allow to throw them away if they corrupt this wonderful county...we are not doing it..


Not well said. Who do I have to overthrow to stop you from corrupting the English language?
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


The current presidential administration and all members of congress were elected with the consent of the governed, expressed through a vote. As you can read above, the declaration does not give you permission to overthrow a government that was fairly chosen by the majority of the people. The Constitution does not have an overthrow clause and it is the "supreme law of the land."

Overthrowing a democratically chosen official(s) would not improve "safety or happiness" Rather, destabilizing the government would throw the country into chaos. I seem to recall that the US did that in Iran in 1953. Didn't work out so well.

Please tell me what the purpose of voting is if you need only overthrow the government whenever your candidate loses. If you failed to speak up while Bush was having the NSA conduct illegal domestic wiretapping and providing retroactive immunity to telecom companies that broke the law. What did you say when he killed habeas corpus? Did you have a problem with indefinite imprisonment without trial or torture? I doubt it.

What's going to corrupt this country is a bunch of neocons who spend half the time praising the Constitution and the other half nullifying it whenever it becomes inconvenient.




[edit on 8-12-2009 by andrewh7]
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