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IRS selling off Indian tribal lands (possibly illegal)

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posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 10:41 AM
Well, the government established in previous centuries that it could do pretty much whatever it wanted to the Indians so I suppose in a sense this should come as no surprise.

To be fair, there is some ambiguity about the law in this area...the Indians claim they were told (incorrectly) that they were exempt from all taxes, and tribes are generally exempt from all or most taxes, but they must pay regarding some certain business ventures. There are also congressional and trust issues involved here...its complex. But this is not one of the "wealthy" reservations with piles casino money, so it seems unfair to me to see the IRS zeroing in on this particular group.

American Indian land sold off by IRS to pay off taxes

US tax officials have sold off thousands of acres of an impoverished Indian reservation in what the tribe claims is a "shameful" and unprecedented breach of laws protecting Native Americans.

The 7,112 acres - or 11 square miles - of Crow Creek Sioux ancestral land in central South Dakota was auctioned off on Thursday by the US Internal Revenue Service to help pay off more than $3.1 million (£1.9 million) in unpaid taxes, penalties and interest.

The land, part of the tribe's original reservation established in an 1868 treaty, was originally held by the federal government in a trust for the tribe.

..."It's very disgraceful, very shameful. It's devastating to us. Our land is never for sale," said Brandon Sazue, the tribal chairman, after the auction.

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posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 10:54 AM
reply to post by silent thunder

USA is a pathetic nation , with a useless law system .
the faster usa collapses , the better it will be for the native american tribe ,as they will get freedom , from american imperial aggression and the genocides they faced from the empire of evil aka USA

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 10:57 AM
There might be more to the issue then just taxes being owed. There might be minerals or some other natural resources discovered there and the government wants it. It's the same sad story of history being repeated. I hope they get their land back.

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 11:01 AM
They should tell the IRS to deduct it from the $Billions that the Indian Agency has withheld from them.
White man still speaks with forked tongue and now has highly paid lawyers working round the clock to see how they can continue to stiff the natives.

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 11:22 AM
your missing some info here...
this all started back in 2003

The lawsuit says BIA gave the tribe “erroneous tax advice” around 2003 when it said the tribe didn’t have to pay federal employment taxes because it’s a federally recognized sovereign nation.

“The tribe has attempted since then to pay the arrearages and subsequent amounts as they come due, but has been unable to bring the employment taxes current because over this same amount of time the Internal Revenue Services have levied and garnished various accounts of the tribe making it impossible for the tribe to bring the taxes current,” according to the lawsuit

in fact the IRS was taking money before the tribe could make payroll, can you all say strong-arm tactics? just last week they took $48,000

Anyway the land is part of the Crow Creek Reservation that was established by the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868. The treaty aimed to end the war between the settler colonists and the indigenous peoples of the west.

“This war,” the famous Sioux leader Spotted Tail said at the time, “was brought upon us by the children of the Great Father who came to take our land from us without price.”

The 7,100 acres were previously held in trust for the tribe by the federal government, but during the Dawes Act era – the Allotment Period of the late 19th century – the land was fractionalized, came out of trust and sold to non-Indians.

The tribe bought back its land in 1998 through the Crow Creek Tribal Farms, Inc., a corporation formed as a separate entity from the tribe.

As you know the tribe has filed legal actions. several in fact. The IRS has given the Crow 180 days to buy back the land for whatever the guy paid for it plus 20 percent. They sold it this morning to some guy by the name of Klein from the Highmore, S.D. area

so right now everything in on hold until there can be a hearing late March... when a judge hears that case it will be on charges that the IRS has violated Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act, the Archaeological Resources Protection Act, the American Indian Religious Freedom Act, the National Environmental Policy Act, and the 1790 Indian Nonintercourse Act.

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 12:02 PM
reply to post by silent thunder

If the natives weren't doing something illegal and violating federal laws then this never would have happened.

The natives are tax cheats. We pay our taxes, and now its time for the natives to pay theirs. And if they don't whatever punishment they get must have been deemed necessary.

I'm playing devils advocate here.

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 12:13 PM
reply to post by civilchallenger

I realize your playing devils advocate so I'm not going to rant...

What we have here though is one Federal Agency BIA giving bad advice to the tribe and that put them in violation. they were not doing anything illegal

So lets say you had your own version of BIA lets call that the Bureau of A-retentive white guys. and they told you not to pay taxes. This bureau is supposed to be your definitive expert, your interface with the US government your go to guys... and they give you bad advice...IRS gets mad and sells your home out from under you... is that fair?

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 12:21 PM
There are more than enough tax cheats in the Obama administration and in the hallowed halls of Congress and on Wall Street for the IRS to keep busy for generations. They do not need to harass and intimidate impoverished Native Americans.

The IRS should be required to read "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee".

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 01:34 PM

Same # different color, still stinks.

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 01:55 PM
So what else is new?

Americans support theft of Native lands as a blood right. How can they complete the genocide so long as one tribe holds land?

I notice they are demanding a 20% guaranteed profit as the price for returning what was stolen. I'm actually surprised the squeeze is so low, it's usually more.

Strange that they don't seize land from other nations that owe them money. Oh, wait, those countries might fight back with bombs and bullets.

Perhaps it's time for Native Americans to burn and bomb in the US.

Past time, actually.

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