Conservation alone obviously doesnt work.
LFTR isnt lining the pockets of anyone, though. Just being efficient, does not mean it's lucretive.
It seems that we are at stalemate with the alternative energy topics. Just like years ago, with solar energy. Solar panel construction is bad for the environment, but better in the long run, we need too many of them.. etc....

Until big business dollars are taken out of the equation, we will not have any major changes. Or, until the cost of oil is so outrageous, no one can afford it.
It's kind of sad really.

The main issue with the LFTR at the moment is its full development, which has yet to be realized. I feel if that issue is overcome, then "big business dollars" should be lining up for the LFTR, with the potential to completely replace our Fossil plants. Remember, many Nuclear Plants in the United States generate 2 million dollars profit per day, and the LFTR only eliminates existing technologies perceived weaknesses, while capitalizing on its strengths, for example, the LFTR makes the fuel cycle simpler, it lowers construction costs, and eliminates any perceived issues with waste, proliferation, and safety.

I certainly do not think it should be compared to solar, because solar, especially photo-voltaic is uneconomical, has a low power density, is intermittent, and has a low capacity factor. Nuclear, even today, fares much better in all those fields, and once the capital costs are payed off, it can compete with fossil fuels very easily. They are not building new Nuclear Plants in the United States for the first time in 20 years for nothing. Also, most of the private R&D into new Nuclear designs is in Liquid Metal Fast Reactors. They have some of the advantages of the LFTR, but not all.

What I feel needs to be done:

• Create a new but seperate version of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) aimed at the licensing and operation of non-conventional 4th generation reactors.
  
• Overhaul the existing NRC significantly so the licensing of conventional nuclear plants is rapidly accelerated. The steps the Bush administration took in this field were in the right direction because debacles like Shoreham (google it) should not happen.
  
• Greater recognition, education, and awareness of current, and future Nuclear technologies such as the LMFR and LFTR. This means close public examination of claims by groups such as Greenpeace.
  
• Divert funds from existing renewable R&D budgets to restart the Integral Fast Reactor (IFR - a LMFR basically) program. It was canceled during the Clinton administration, for, well, nothing. Also, start a LFTR (MSR) program.
  
• Instate governmental policies aimed at supporting Nuclear, rather than vehemently opposing it like they currently do. For example, remove safety regulations that do not actually improve safety, but add hundreds of millions to construction costs. (e.g. property line radiation limit - ask if you want)
  
• If they conventional reactors we are starting to build today in the United States end up on-time and on-budget, then massively expand the existing loan guarantees that are given to Nuclear at this time. (Loan guarantees are not subsidies, think student loans. )
  
• Have the laws prohibiting fuel reprocessing to be revoked. This will dramatically reduce mining, and will significantly reduce waste output.
  

Thanks.


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I think Wind and Solar are good choices, based on the fact that my brother is up to speed with alternative energy.. it's his business.. and so runs his home, the granny apartment, and, the large machinery shed.. AND, puts power into the grid for a rebate.

When a storm knocked power out for 4 days, his beers were still cold, the kids still had music/entertainment, the freezers and shed equipment all ran fine, life went on as normal.

So, to make sense of my ramblings here, it could be very effective for all housing to be equipped with a combination of Wind and Solar energy production to take the drain off normal power supplies, and reduce household costs.

How much do solar panels for the home cost, and what is their (average) output? I only know commercial, large scale solutions. I got to go, but I'll respond in full tomorrow.

Thanks.

And thank god the place where I live has the lights on... all the time, except during occasional lightning storms for less than an hour.

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Yes, property line limitations are needed. However, during the 1980s the NRC reduced the allowable radiation at the property line from 5 millirem to 1 millirem. The cost? 1 billion dollars and added delays, per reactor that was already built. For reference, a chest X-ray is 20 millirem, and the average American gets 200 millirem of exposure from Radon gas per year. I see these measures as completely unnecessary.

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Do not need nuclear power...

There is a huge amount of effort going into research on zero point energy at many levels of funding. I firmly believe a breakthrough will happen quicker than new nuclear plants can be constructed.

Originally posted by expat2368
Do not need nuclear power...

There is a huge amount of effort going into research on zero point energy at many levels of funding. I firmly believe a breakthrough will happen quicker than new nuclear plants can be constructed.

This has been said many times during previous decade, or even century. It is merely procrastination. So... while I wish free energy the best, Nuclear technology is the only platform that can realistically help get us off fossil fuels.

But dont you think corporations would bastardize the technology?

I am unfamiliar with the way the cost of electricity is set. However I do know that Nuclear can possibly be cheaper than many of the alternatives, and this is reflected in Europe, where France, which is 80% Nuclear, has some of the lowest electricity rates in Europe. France also has some of the lowest CO2 emissions per capita. Denmark, Germany, and Spain, which apparently are leaders in renewables, have far higher Co2 emissions per capita, and a far greater cost of electricity.

So, to make sense of my ramblings here, it could be very effective for all housing to be equipped with a combination of Wind and Solar energy production to take the drain off normal power supplies, and reduce household costs.

It is unlikely rooftop solar will decrease household costs, as the initial capital investment required is very high. This is even reflected in large scale centralized facilities where you would expect the actual cost to be cheaper. However, it will decrease dependence on the grid and energy companies, which can only be a good thing. Even so, it is physically impossible to run an industrialized nation on solar and wind, as the energy densities are too sparse, capacity factors are too low, and intermittency. It is no mistake that wind and solar make up less than 2% of total electricity generation worldwide.

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The MSR techgnology has been around for a long time.

Could our weapons ambitions have anything to do with why we didn't go with MSR's?

I'm thinking thats the right question to ask.