Originally posted by C10UD
id like to start of by saying im a caucasion white male living in the united kingdom, the terrorist aspect of islam is a minority of extremists yes,
the reason they apear so frequent in number is because there the only muslims who make the news, just like airliner crashes apear on the news when car
crashes dont. extremism is a bigger story.
I too am a white caucasian living in the UK.
The reason that Muslims only make the news is related to terrorism is because the vast majority of terrorists are Muslims and their supporters
constantly try to provoke non-Muslims with their outrageous and frequently illegal behaviour.
A perfect example was the recent outcry over Anjam Choudray and Wootton Bassett.
The silence from the so called 'majority' of Muslims is deafening in their condemnation of the terrorists.
I acknowledge that there is a very small number of Muslims who are vocal in their criticism of the terrorists and fundamentalists, but I suggest that
they are the true 'minority'.
do you not think that by alienating islam you simply rally more of the muslims towards extremism. i see alot of younger muslim or asian teenagers
acting in inapriopriot manor and being vandals but i also see white caucasion youths doing the same thing. its kind of obvious that if society as a
whole rejects muslims and subjects them to alienation they will want to fight back against supresion.
Alienating any group / section from he rest of society is divisive, why your particular focus / concern about Muslims?
In fact it is my understanding that in recent years society, (driven by the PC brigade), has bent itself over backwards in trying to accomodate
Muslims, often at the expense of other sections of society.
christians complaining of islams evil and decietfull ways will do well to remember the slaughters of the holy war and the crusade where, christianity
as a whole decided god wanted them to go and kill all the muslims for being different. yet one of their most cherrished beliefs is love thy neighbour
and not to kill. hypocrysy much??
For pity's sake, The Crusades were nearly a thousand years ago and can hardly be used as a justification for the abhorent acts committed recently by
Muslim terrorists.
And your understanding of The Crusades seems to be slightly blinkered.
The Muslims were equally intent on imposing their will upon the people of the region and were spreading their influence / dominance over the whole of
The Middle East, Africa and even Europe.
Yes there were some atrocious acts carried out in the name of Christianity during this period, and since, but so did The Muslims...it was the norm of
the day.
furthermore do u think the majority of muslims in afganistan and such want a warezone on their front doors. of course not
The majority of Afghani's want us there. They do not want to suffer again at the hands of The Taliban who want to impose a particular barbaric and
repressive version of Sharia upon everyone.
You speak of atrocities yet by implication support the return of The Taliban.
Double standards methinks.
i do share but one concern with the propaganda and that is the average muslim family does make alot more babies than a caucasion white one. and i cant
help but feel that religeon of any sort is problematic towards societies progress. at least unflexible ones like christianity with the whole denying
evolution malarky.
Projections on the religious and ethnic make up of British society based on current birth rates suggests that by approximately 2050 Muslims could be
on the verge of being in the majority in the UK.
You call Christianity unflexible yet support Islam, a religion that demands the complete and total obediance to The Quran, a book that dictates every
aspect of an individuals existence.
And as for denying evolution, most Christians that I know do not deny evolution, (I am agnostic).
I think you will find that Christian fundamentalism is a predominently US phenomonom at present.
I am no fan of Christianity but at least it has moved forward and is trying to adapt to the modern world we live in; Islam seems to be regressing and
entering some sort of Dark Age.
every major discovery of science has had to endure untolerable critique by religeous parties when it contradicts their belief system. it does
frustrate me greatly.
Some common ground.
by no means do i disklike islam or christianity because of their belief system, but why on earth would a god want you to do the things writen in the
holly books, what difference would going to a church make. i mean does god need an ego boost or somthing?
That is a whole different arguement for another place my friend, however, I suspect that there is probably more common ground there than both of us
would have first admitted.
[edit on 23/1/10 by Freeborn]
. And I love how you keep using the term 'western'. So many assumptions and biases showing
through 
! 
