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The Egyptologist, the Sphinx and the cover-up

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posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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The Egyptologist, the Sphinx and the cover-up


www.philipcoppens.com

Ten years ago, three books—Giza: The Truth (by Chris Ogilvie-Herald and Ian Lawton), The Stargate Conspiracy (by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince) and Secret Chamber (by Robert Bauval)—provided an overview of the controversy that was believed to surround the Giza Plateau and the pyramids. The key question was whether it held any undiscovered, or purposefully kept hidden, chambers, whether inside the pyramids or under or near the Sphinx.
The previous decade had seen a renewed interest in the plateau, partly due to the theories of Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock and the discovery of a door
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posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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This man is an absolute fraud.

Ten years ago, three books—Giza: The Truth (by Chris Ogilvie-Herald and Ian Lawton), The Stargate Conspiracy (by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince) and Secret Chamber (by Robert Bauval)—provided an overview of the controversy that was believed to surround the Giza Plateau and the pyramids. The key question was whether it held any undiscovered, or purposefully kept hidden, chambers, whether inside the pyramids or under or near the Sphinx.
The previous decade had seen a renewed interest in the plateau, partly due to the theories of Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock and the discovery of a door in an inaccessible part of the Great Pyramid. It was found on 22 March 1993 by German robotics engineer Rudolf Gantenbrink during the installation of an air conditioning system. The discovery resulted in several claims, allegations and diatribes which, with the dawn of the new millennium, slowly disappeared.

www.philipcoppens.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 04:41 PM
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A long article...but well worth the read.

Thanks for posting. S & F



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 05:13 PM
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The man that wrote the article, Phillip Coppens, is a UFO investigative journalist and an Atlantis hunter. Something to keep in mind.
Egypt has the right to protect their antiquities. They've been plundered for centuries.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by 2compelled
The man that wrote the article, Phillip Coppens, is a UFO investigative journalist and an Atlantis hunter. Something to keep in mind.
Egypt has the right to protect their antiquities. They've been plundered for centuries.


I agree with that they have the right to protect there antiquities, but what about the Egyptians who want to know the rest of their history? Plundering and re-discovering are two different things completely.

b



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 09:28 PM
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What is wrong with research? Nothing has to be removed, and what could be gained could be history changing by a simple investigation.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 09:36 PM
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And that is the 10 million dollar question, is the antiquities really Egyptian. Plundering of historical artifacts have been happening to all cultures for thousands of years, and I do agree that they should protect the artifacts. But what was in the article and from much of what I've researched in regard to doing research in Egypt (especially the pyramid complexes) is that they want to control the research done. This way they would know if something that is found or stumbled upon that blows a hole in who or how the pyramids where formed and who may have been the builders. Without the pyramids and or sphinx Cairo is just another desert city, and they know it. The Sphinx has water erosion and the only time that erosion of that magnitude could have been done was at least 10,000 years ago when that area of the world wasn't desert but green savanna with trees. People wonder but what about the pyramids, they would have eroded also, they have and also the pyramids where covered with polished casing stones.

I have this to say, I've commented alot about ancient civilizations and here's a question. Isn't it possible that we are looking at remains in Egypt and other parts of this planet remains of a time where we where alot more advanced? Why do people not want to consider that for one minute. A Sphinx that was built for no other reason (as some say) to be a representation of a deity by a Pharaoh (was it a lion face first that was recarved to look like a human?). The pyramids, which are beautiful but in their heyday could be seen over 30 miles in the desert shining pearl white from the casing stones. Built to be tombs by the same Pharaohs, but these same narcissistic and vain individuals didn't paint or sketch murals all inside there "burial" tombs to show their accomplishments and weren't even inside to begin with. And then there's Baalbek in Lebanon which has Roman ruins built on massive (I do mean massive) blocks that couldn't have been built or moved by people in that day or even this day. Most of the structures are intact, but some of the blocks look like they where thrown around like leggos or left in a hurry.

A conspiracy of silence is in effect across the world in order to keep silent our true history on this planet. What would get different people to change the past to a point of view thats more streamlined to MSM view of history. They want us to forget about that time, and usually when people try to forget about something in their past it's usually something they did or someone did to them that they want to forget. Did someone or something do something to the human species that we want to forget. Did we do something to ourselves that at the time we wanted to forget and over the course of decades and centuries and millenia, it became a story, then a myth and legend. And it stayed that way to a point where the humans of today (except for a few groups with arcane knowledge and secret rites etc. etc.) don't even know why they keep denying the past.

People always wonder where is the evidence, it's in front of our face all the time we are just told to ignore what our eyes see. The best hiding spot is right in plain sight. Also if you tell a lie big enough and long enough people will believe you because they can't believe that somebody would tell a whopper of a lie that big without somebody catching them.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
What is wrong with research? Nothing has to be removed, and what could be gained could be history changing by a simple investigation.


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No, there's nothing wrong with research. Except Hawass has been, lets say a little backward in admitting that the Egyptians didn't build the pyramids. From an engineering point of view it has been established that we couldn't build the pyramids even today.

But the main fact remains, who built them and more importantly WHY. I believe Hancock and Bouval are on the right track.

There is a message in the pyramids, all's we have to do is figure it out.

Now, anybody want to take a guess WHY they were built?



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by downunderET
From an engineering point of view it has been established that we couldn't build the pyramids even today.


Of course we could build the pyramids today! We have all the technology to do so. It just that we have no desire or reason to.

IRM



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 11:45 PM
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It's frustrating to know there may be great knowledge about all kinds of things being either protected or suppressed for whatever reasons. The more important or valuable, the more likely some people will steal, damage, or destroy it. Some of this controversy looks like propaganda to fuel Egyptian tourism.



posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
What is wrong with research? Nothing has to be removed, and what could be gained could be history changing by a simple investigation.


What if the history changing investigation is not considered a gain, but a problem?

A lot of people don't want us masses to know the truth of this planet...



posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by InfaRedMan

Originally posted by downunderET
From an engineering point of view it has been established that we couldn't build the pyramids even today.


Of course we could build the pyramids today! We have all the technology to do so. It just that we have no desire or reason to.

IRM


Just like the ancients had their technology also



posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 12:32 AM
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Exactly! You said it my man!



  1. Ability to draw precise architecture [Check]
  2. Ability to quarry and shape limestone blocks [Check]
  3. Ability to transport limestone blocks [Check]
  4. Ability to align to true north [Check]
  5. Ability to lift and stack limestone blocks [Check]


IRM



posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 12:52 AM
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That's just it though, the longer you supress the info and let people plunder it on the side the more it will happen. Uncover and protect it in the open and we won;t be opening chambers, tombs, vaults or whatever else is out there to see that someone else slipped in during the middle of the night. Make your moves by fear and those fears come to life.

b



posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 01:50 AM
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Very true that those who would steal and/or suppress findings should be beat to the punch. NuclearPaul also makes a great point concerning the dangers of some things becoming mainstream knowledge. It is definitely plausible that much already acquired knowledge of the plateau is hidden from the world by some, perhaps to maintain what religious or political stability still exists. I'm burning to know what is really under that sand, and deep within those structures as much as most. I'm just saying that if it was in your backyard, you wouldn't want the whole world out there poking around. People walk off with stuff, things get broken, and they leave a big mess. That's real.



posted on Dec, 8 2009 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by downunderET

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
What is wrong with research? Nothing has to be removed, and what could be gained could be history changing by a simple investigation.


......................................................

No, there's nothing wrong with research. Except Hawass has been, lets say a little backward in admitting that the Egyptians didn't build the pyramids. From an engineering point of view it has been established that we couldn't build the pyramids even today.

But the main fact remains, who built them and more importantly WHY. I believe Hancock and Bouval are on the right track.

There is a message in the pyramids, all's we have to do is figure it out.

Now, anybody want to take a guess WHY they were built?


For all his sins, this is a little disengenuous. In honesty, we have no idea who built the pyramids, but if you look at things logically, they are in Egypt, they are referenced Egyptian texts, and well, it is the best lead we have. Just because we do not know 'how' exactly, does not mean that aliens came down in a big ship and built them in a day. 30+ years and 30,000 can get a lot done... As much as I believe that there is 'more' to it, don't discount the Egyptians so quickly.

As mentioned, we could build them today, we just have no real inclination to, so in honesty, they really are a mystery on all counts.

As for Hawas, well, he is human. He is always protecting his back, especially considering his past, and also has the fate of Egyptian tourist economy on his shoulders! Tourism is the largest earner in the country... if he say that it's greatest treasures were not made by Egypt, and overnight people stop visiting, the Government are not going to be happy.

I always think that Hawas and the Antiquity service is like a duck... calm on the surface, but paddling like hell underneath!



posted on Dec, 11 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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A fairly long read, but well worth it, thanks for posting.


I'm not sure what to make of it all, Hawass comes in for a lot of bashing here on ATS as it is, but the article was pretty open about the reasons for criticising his methods, rather than just name calling. Going by this piece, he certainly seems to do a lot of flip-flopping on what is and isn't under the Giza plateau.



Originally posted by hog. cheese
some of the blocks look like they where thrown around like leggos or left in a hurry.

Not biting, but as this is a pet peeve, I just wanted to say that 'Lego' is plural, no need for the 's'


[edit on 11-12-2009 by VelvetSplash]



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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I disagree, more people would go see them if it comes out that Atlanteans built the Giza Pyramids. Hawass doesn't want to face the more powerful Illuminati controlers. They don't want the truth revealed at any cost IMO.



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 09:36 PM
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Interesting note at the end about the different type of rock that was found in the core sample taken around the sphinx. The thought of an aquifer underneath the plateau also brings forth a lot of questions and speculation. Suppose one had endless financial resources, do you think they could get permission to carry out archaeology or some type of scientific work in the area?



posted on Feb, 20 2010 @ 03:36 AM
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No doubt that if you look at the dream stele of Thutmosis IV you'll notice that the two Sphinxes are sitting on top of a Temple.

This would also explain the large amount of water being pumped out by Zawi Hawass underneath.

The interesting thing is that another stele directly next to the current one is missing !
My zoom in also shows the sphinx on top of a temple on the original.

Thutmose found the Sphinx buried in sand, so did he know that there was a temple underneath when he cleared the sand "around it"??

And if not, why did he draw the Sphinx on top of a Temple? Was it because of the original stele?

Was there Atlantean writing on that stele revealing the "Hall of Atlantean Records" below?

And my evidence for another sphinx missing north of the Red Pyramid in Saqqarra.


The TWO Dream Steles in front of the Sphinx from the Cavigllia expedition ca.1818.aD. Top is broken off of the MISSING STELE.

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Zoomed in on the Sphinx in MISSING STELE that was 90 degrees adjacent to the current one.

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The Dream Stela of Thutmosis IV only remains today.

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Large closeup of the Dream stele today. NOTE THAT THE SPHINXES SIT ON TOP OF A TEMPLE.

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Missing sphinx just north of the Red Pyramid in Saqqarra.

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Aerial view of the Red Pyramid and the missing Sphinx location.

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