Hitler's Agreement With Zionists.

Hitler's Agreement With Zionists.

www.liveleak.com

Hitler made a deal with Zionists and allowed them to take all their assets to Palestine.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Old news report i have never seen about information from 1933 and an alleged deal with Hitler and Zionists. Allowing them to return to Palestine with all of their money, reffered to as the transfers exchange.
Check out the video some will find it boring some will find it fascinating, i dont now how to embed it my apologies.

www.liveleak.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

I cannot see the video for some reason - it does not start, but i assume it speaks about Haavara agreement according to which tens of thousands of German Jews got to Palestine and German goods got new market ,which was at the time to mutual Zionist and Nazi interests. In late 1930s this "honey moon" was over however, and mainstream Zionists were opposing Nazi Germany.
I can understand this early 1930s political games. It was still diplomacy time so you can see Nazi-Zionist, Nazi-British, Nazi-Soviet, Nazi- Islamic and Nazi-what-not agreements. Nobody could know what will actually happen in just a few years.
However i cannot understand how in 1941 extremist Jewish Zionist terror group (Lehi) suggested to Nazis sort of alliance against British. This was insane.
I am very very glad that Nazis refused, otherwise it would be extremely disgusting affair.

S + F | The link is working fine on my end

Wonderful, wonderful, check these links out, they are relevant to the subject:

www.rense.com...
www.meguiar.addr.com...

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Here is the video, hope it helps

The author Edwin Black is a well respected researcher and journalist. One lecture from him about his book War against the Weak is a classic and should be watched by every conspiracy theorist. The lecture is about the history of American eugenics.

Google Video Link

Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing.

Did I hear the authors' mother say that she was "buried in a grave" ?

What does that mean ?

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Excellent remark. In the early days of the reich such politics were indeed discussed. However, like you eloquently posted later 'the honeymoon was over' .

There was a switch in strategy from deportation to anahilation. Remeber the Wansee conference.

By the time the war was well underway, in 40 and 41 and the Germans were actively involved in North africa and the Balkans. OKW actually had a mediterranean strategy. They were on the doorstep of crushing Egypt. -We only have Montgommery to thank that this didn't happen-
The second part of the pincer would have marched from Greece and the Balkans through Turkey to join with Rommels troops that moved from Egypt after securing the Suez canal. De facto conquering Palestine, surrounding the Mediterranean.

It is also known that druing this time the Nazi armies were supported by at least a few Arab and Muslim leaders for their stance against the Jews. Germans considered Arabs, although primitive at that time, excellent allies becasue of their fighting courage and obvious dislike of the Jews.

This would have made German territorial consessions to the Zionist in the later days of the reich really unlikely, if not impossible.

There were talks and maybe even agreements in the early days, but the German strategy moved otherwise.

Besides, remember that in the timeframe of the early 30's, and even up untill 39 all Western governements, the USSR, Japan, the Brittish empire, a lot of business lobby groups, a lot of ideological groups over the world, even in the US and Britain, and even religious organisations such as the Vatican had ties and agreements, heck even treaties, with Nazi Germany.

Nice find though, starred and flagged.

Edit : to complete, typos

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this could have been moved to other current events instead of general conpsiracy

it's a media broadcast afterall

For all of you who will bash me for this remember: I have a right to what I say on here. Now this "agreement" for the jews to go out of Germany and Into Palestine was Hitler's "Final Solution". The holocaust didn't happen as Mainstream thought says it did. They think that the final solution was the holocaust which is just not fact. This is why the jews and Israel claim to have the right to live there and to the middle east.

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I repect your opinion. I'm not pro Israel for sure. A few facts though:

These so called agreements were made before there was ever talk of a final solution. The term final solution : 'endlösung' was first time mentioned agreed upon at the Wansee conferences, and focused not on deportation, as had indeed been before, but on anihilation. There is no doubt about this, there are transcripts of these meetings, there are witnesses.

While some details abut the holocaust are scetchy, and should be debatable, there is no doubt that a large scale industrial massacre, unrivaled in history has taken place, not only aimed at Jews, but also at Gypsy's, Slaves, Gays, mentally ill, dissidents... Denying this is being ignorant.

The historical claim of the Jews on the Holy lands stretches back over 2000 years, long before there were Romas, Arabs, Nazi's etc...
I'm sure there is a lot of history about this you can read up on.

Israël was created in 1948 by the UN, by that time the Nazis were gone

Edit : spelling

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[edit on 5-12-2009 by McFlemish]

reply to post by kingoftheworld


Yes, you can say whatever you want, for that is the right of every human being. But, that does not make you correct, and likewise, I have the right to tell you that your assertions are as much of a delusional fantasy as your ATS moniker... Mr. "king of the world."

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

Link... www.ihr.org...

This ship had apparently been purchased by the Zionists from the Nazi government in order to transport it's people to Palestine. Contrary to the Zionist MSM story, until the end of the war, the Nazis were 'continually' reported being involved in aiding Zionist transport to Palestine. Obviously this won't taste too good to many modern people, but the truth can often be unpalatable.

I know how utterly brainwashed most of us have been regarding the story of the Nazi's and the Jews (I know, because I was one of them), however the TRUTH is another matter.

I shall leave you now, to read the entire link.

There is loads more if you look under the carpet!

Peace.

Originally posted by Adolf Springer
I know how utterly brainwashed most of us have been regarding the story of the Nazi's and the Jews (I know, because I was one of them), however the TRUTH is another matter.

I shall leave you now, to read the entire link.

There is loads more if you look under the carpet!

Thank you for your views Adolph.

And thank you for the link to the ultra-right wing pro-Nazi racist site.

Readers might want to know about Mark Weber the author of your hate piece:

www.adl.org...
More than any other propagandist, Mark Weber, 45, embodies the Holocaust-denial movement. An articulate, media-savvy spokesperson with a master's degree in History from Indiana University, Weber got his start in the radical right in 1978, when he took the position of news editor for National Vanguard, a publication of the neo-Nazi National Alliance.

In 1979, Weber also began to contribute regularly to The Spotlight, a weekly tabloid produced by Willis Carto's Liberty Lobby organization. His involvement with the IHR also intensified steadily over the years; initially working as a contributor to the now-defunct IHR Newsletter, Weber began serving as emcee for the group's annual conventions in 1984. In 1985 he became a member of IHR's Editorial Advisory Committee and in 1992 he became editor of the Journal of Historical Review. Following IHR's break with Carto and the subsequent departure of most professional staff members in 1993, Weber became director of the organization with one professional staff person serving under him.

Weber's more openly extremist commitment to white supremacy has not abated during his pyrrhic ascendancy through the IHR ranks. Throughout the 1980s, he maintained his contact with the National Alliance, serving, according to official documents, as treasurer of that organization's "Cosmotheist Church."

Similarly, in 1987, graduating seniors at four private high schools in Atlanta received copies of a 584-page racist and anti-Semitic book, The Dispossessed Majority, with a letter signed by Weber which stated, "... You and your classmates may expect to face grave political, economic and social problems. There will be outright discrimination against you as you compete for admission to the better colleges. Less-qualified nonwhites with lower academic standing will be pushed ahead of you by means of racial quotas and four-year scholarships."

In 1989, several ROTC cadets at Auburn University received an identical mailing from Weber. In the same year, Weber was interviewed by The Sower, a student newspaper at the University of Nebraska. In the interview, Weber stated, " l'm concerned about the future of (the white) race and I'm concerned about the future of our country." He also warned against America's becoming "a sort of Mexicanized, Puerto Ricanized country.... I don't believe it's possible for Black Americans to be assimilated into white society."

Nonetheless, it is as a Holocaust-denier that Weber has found his niche on the radical right, and it is through the IHR that he has found the platform to pursue his increasingly solitary, yet persistently hateful propaganda mission.

reply to post by mmiichael


And what makes you think the ADL are any more believable ?

Originally posted by bigyin
reply to post by mmiichael

 

And what makes you think the ADL are any more believable ?

It's about the qualities of information.

Facts and data have to be given context not cherry-picked to move an agenda.

Are you saying ADL is supplying misinformation and the Neo-Nazis are telling the Truth?

reply to post by mmiichael


I'm not taking sides, but your argument is to shut down anyone who comes up with evidence to support a different theory.

Instead of trying to discredit the researcher why not accept his findings and find counter evidence.

Oh I forgot ... we are not allowed to research holocaust or anything that might refute it.

Originally posted by bigyin
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I'm not taking sides, but your argument is to shut down anyone who comes up with evidence to support a different theory.

Instead of trying to discredit the researcher why not accept his findings and find counter evidence.

Oh I forgot ... we are not allowed to research holocaust or anything that might refute it.

This is your attempt to put forward an argument not being made.

It's not about disallowing views it's about providing context.

"Research has shown ..." is not a sufficient qualifier. Weber and his ilk have been shown to manipulate, distort, even willfully lie about what they present as factual. Anyone being presented with material from sources like this should be aware of how credible it is.

reply to post by mmiichael

It's not about disallowing views it's about providing context.

Well, in that case maybe some context from the Red Cross might be acceptable.

No Evidence Of Genocide

One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ... In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results. Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).

Edit to add:

Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming inevitable.

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...

Are you saying the Red Cross itself is not a credible source of information?


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Originally posted by All Seeing Eye

Are you saying the Red Cross itself is not a credible source of information?

There have been sincere devoted people who have worked for the Red Cross. But there have been many who have abused their positions with the organization and a number of scandals.

www.counterpunch.org...

The Scandalous History of the Red Cross

There are warehouses full of documentation on the WWII Holocaust. Literally millions of eyewitnesses to Nazi sponsored acts of mass murder in a controlled dozen countries. Tens of thousands of pages of testimonies, records, confessions, photographs.

A relatively small percentage of the killing were done in Concentration Camps. There were outright Death Comps, overseen village and town mass executions of Jews who were shot and buried.

There are people who dig out a single report or record that has some ambiguity and claim it represents something significant.

We now know tens of millions were involved or aware of the genocide. Many are still alive. There has never been any question 6 Million Jewish unarmed non-military people were hunted down, transported and murdered by the Nazis in outright violation of mutually agreed terms of warfare. Despite late in the war attempts to destroy incriminating evidence by the Germans, tens of thousands of pages of their own records survived and are available to the public.

There are cranks who systematically misrepresent the facts attempting to convince naive and susceptible people the Holocausrt did not happen as recorded, documented and remembered.

This has been and will continue to be fought by people who respect the truth.