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Yahoo and your friendly neighborhood government

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posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 09:08 PM
reply to post by schrodingers dog

Good find, Mr. SD. S&F.

Google does collect IP addresses and the searches preformed from said IP's. It's been suggested before, but now is a good time to reiterate: use startpage instead of Google. Startpage collects no identifying information from you.

As for emails, you can use mutemail or SendAnonymousEmail and Mailinator is a good option as well.

There's lots of options out there to protect your privacy on teh interwebz, just do a little searching, it's well worth it.


[edit on 5-12-2009 by TheAssociate]

posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 09:21 PM
What everyone needs to realize is that NOTHING you do online is private.
Everything you do leaves some kind of footprint and can be followed in one way or another. Be it with proper laws being followed or not. I used to work in an office where 800 on a company network, some people felt that if they used web based email it was private...... the truth is that if you are using someone else's computer at work ( on a corporate network) anything can be looked at..... now being realistic about this.... the IT guys would need to go have a look on purpose ( Like a request from HR or a boss)

I 'd love to hear from network managers on this

posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Perfect stranger
What everyone needs to realize is that NOTHING you do online is private.
Everything you do leaves some kind of footprint and can be followed in one way or another.

This is very true, there are ways to keep your privacy though. They're not perfect of course, nothing is. One guy above already pointed out startpage, I personally use Scroogle. It sends your request through one of their servers and basically acts as a fast proxy that searches google for you, you can add it to your browser and set it to use SSL if you're really paranoid, which I am. You can also use a VPN but they cost a little bit of cash. You're absolutely right about working on a corporate or business network as well. It's very easy to set up something like EtherDetect and watch people type back and forth on MSN and so forth, you can see their passwords in plaintext if they're not careful about what they log in to. EtherDetect is a free sniffer as well, I'd be terrified to see what sorts of software large companies have.

posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 09:46 PM
It's not called "the web" or "the net" for nothing!

We're all tangled in it,willingly or not.

Remember Bob Seger's song,"I'm Not a Number"?

I know how he felt!

posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 11:16 PM
reply to post by schrodingers dog

Yahoo recently stood up for peoples rights when a politician called Mandelson suggested implementing a law to kick people off of the internet for piracy, even if it was someone else in their house that commited the crime. On top of that yahoo seem to be proponents of net neutrality, something that governments around the world are trying to destroy.

So i find the whole company rather strange, standing up for some rights and then abusing others.

posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 01:08 AM
reply to post by schrodingers dog

S & F to you!!

Although this should surprise me i feel as though I have known this all along and that it is happening with all search engines. Why to you think PS3 and XBox 360's are internet complient just brings a whole new spectrum of users onto the radars of Agency's.

posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 01:23 AM
Yahoo or any other site can be monitored. Let's not fool ourselves.

posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 04:13 AM

Originally posted by TrainDispatcher
I posted it here on the 3rd and didn't get any responses w/ 4 flags

Yahoo/SBC/Ameritech/Cox/Nextel...ect SPYING GUIDES

[edit on 5-12-2009 by TrainDispatcher]

I just flagged your post too w/o comment. The problem is that "spying guide" is kind of self-explanatory. I've saved your data links into my reference folders in case I need any intel on my boss.

posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 11:02 AM
S&F for OP before replying, for bringing important subject up. what's the big deal with giving a star without reply? anyway back to the topic.

According to Steve Rambam's talk, video of which posted in in this ATS post they all collect the data and cross-reference it, yahoo ebay (who owns paypal) deal means that not only your emails but shopping habits are cross-referenced. Google is probably the worst; it collects your searches and cross-references them to IP and other data it finds. Android on mobiles also collects your location and connects the web browsing to the phone ID. And many more. It’s scary out there.

Can someone tell me this, how can I trust all kinds of anonymisers suggested in this thread (thanks btw, start for you all). it seems to me that this is where they get you
ever heard of honey traps? Why chase paranoid people all around if you can get them by setting up an anonymiser service. I am not implying that they are (or rather that they all are), but it would make sense to do that. I'd do that

posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 05:48 PM
reply to post by schrodingers dog

Not sounding mean but this is not a surprise at all they were tryin to tell people about all the extra spy rooms at the major phone companies for some time now and then they decided to connect your internet with your phone and Bill Gates and top computer companies from top names are seen at Buildaburg meetings ect No one should be surprised they been saying it would happen for a long time now good post

posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 06:46 PM
This was good enough for me to change my search engine and secondary e-mail provider. I realize nothing you ever write is hidden or secret. But the corporate machines are getting just too big. This story has made it a good time for me to make that switch away from the biggest and best. Spread the wealth I say, give someone else a chance.

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 01:30 AM
I just wanted to add the following for your consideration:

Yahoo, Verizon: Our Spy Capabilities Would ‘Shock’, ‘Confuse’ Consumers

Another very interesting read in the context of the leaked document in the OP.

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 04:46 AM
I can't believe anyone uses their real information signing up to something like Yahoo!

I've used an online email account since I was at high school and even then I knew enough not to use my real information. Hell, I don't want adverts for viagra or "Lonely married women looking for sex" being associated with me. BTW, where the hell do these people get your email address from? I know I don't give it to them... Answer: 3rd party information sales.

posted on Dec, 7 2009 @ 12:24 PM
This is a problem and is part of a bigger trend merging corporations with the state (the classic definition of fascism put forward by Mussolini).

In the old days the police had to apply for a warrant to access phone records. I think the same rules should apply now.

Even under the old rules the police were privy to personal information that they would never come across in another line of work. A simple request to Yahoo, without requiring a warrent is going way too far in granting access to people's private lives.

Some people think, "It's OK. I'm not doing anything wrong anyway. The only people that have to worry are the crooks." This is an extemely naive viewpoint. Suppose the crooks are in the police force? At least under the old system of warrants, it would be clear that information was acquired for legitimate police investigative purposes (most of the time).

It is well known that numerous police forces have been infiltrated not only by bad apples, who could turn up in any walk of life, but also organized crime connected persons, who could be asked by their real bosses to get any sort of information accessible to the police.

Under the warrant system someone was, however casually, watching the watchers. What's going on now?

[edit on 7-12-2009 by ipsedixit]

posted on Dec, 9 2009 @ 07:56 AM
reply to post by ipsedixit

I'm not sure where you get the idea there are only a few bad apples. Modern police forces are part of a for-profit corporation. Whens the last time your city's mayor or your city's police chief was going around in a rusty old Geo Metro?

The lastest excuse is "oh those speeding ticket fines are going to the general fund not the police". And the group in charge of the general fund is not also in charge of the police force? Well they actually are in charge of the police force, as it turns out. As long as police make big money from fines the police force will be very corrupt to the core.

So yes, pulling these Yahoo message records are most likely in an effort to extract fines from the "illegal" activities of the homes. What they are doing is probably illegal because being illegal makes them a lot of money. I'm sure drug crimes are their favorite because they'll get a shot to snag some good cars. Because after all, cars are mostly used for crime, and so the police need to seize them where possible. A lot of people would claim cars are mostly not used for crimes but they are wrong... ask any police officer who's job it is to seize cars. Of course the jackpot is when they find cash... cash can only be used for crime... if you have a lot of cash the police will need to be taking that from you for sure and putting it in a safe place.

[edit on 9-12-2009 by truthquest]

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