reply to post by Viper2097
There are some things that I am curious about though, You say that no one is really indigenously British. Well im confused because im from
Australia and im not indigenously Australian. The Aborigines are called the "Indigenous Australians"
In the UK, there's been so much immigration and invasions over the past several thousand years that there isn't really an indigenous race. We are a
mixture of many races. It's more the BNP's definition of indigenous that is important, as from what point in time do we determine who is indigenous
- you simply cannot.
We have many eastern european's who have settled here over the past few years. Do they deserve to be treated as lesser people than the eastern
european's who settled here after 1945? Are the children and the grandchildren of those settlers indigenous according to the BNP? But wait...
they're white and can join the BNP now, but if they're not really indigenous, and according to Griffin he wants to "kick" them all out, then you
can see the idiocy of it all. He says behind closed doors "kick them all out", and makes scathing attacks against Polish workers for taking English
jobs, and then on BBC question time he quietly says "oh you can stay, I don't mind" to a British Pakistani. He can't even tell us what he really
thinks, because he's a coward! He'll pander to the conspiracists, but he'll probably change his mind sometime in future if it suits him.
This man (Griffin) does not have a clue what he is going to say the next day, except how he's going to make himself look less extreme than when he's
behind closed doors.
I always thought that (with my roots traced back to the 1st and 2nd fleet) that I was indigenously British and now you are telling me that im
Where am I indigenous to then?
You would have to find out what levels of immigration and flows of people into and out of Britain were to and from around that time. If you go way
back, you'll probably find eastern european and middle eastern bloodlines. Humans migrated west across from the Caucasus region in Eastern Europe &
the middle east several thousand years ago.
My original point being that the BNP cannot determine who is say 99.9% English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh, and so we don't know who's indigenous, and if
anyone really is. They may define their own version of "indigenous", but it serves no-one apart from themselves.
if the Global political elite said that Israel had to be multicultural and more diverse,
25% of Israeli's aren't Jewish.
20.3% are arabs , and around 75% are Jews.
92.1% are white in Britain.
Why are whites not entitled to there own living space just like every single other race in the world,
There's plenty of places in Britain where the majority are whites. Not that it really matters, but just to correct you on that.
Why is the white race being singled out?
What is everyone so scared of? Why are all non whites so against a 99% whites only country? Every other race has one. Are they afraid of being
left behind or something?
We are all human beings, and should be treated equally. It's nothing to do with how many of each race should live here, it's about the people who
DO live here now.
At the end of the day, more and more White people are getting sick of handing out money to the poor struggling "brown people" as you put it and
just getting slapped in the face and called a racist every time something doesnt go their way.
I actually agree with reducing immigration and deporting the immigrants with links to crime and terrorism, but I don't want to elect a fascist party
in order to do that. When someone openly says on camera as part of a political party extremely racist and fascist comments, then of course that makes
them a fascist.
People do throw around the racist card a bit too often, when actually there's legitimate debates about islam for example. But there's no disputing
that anyone who openly goes in front of a camera and says he wants to get rid of all foreigners from Britain, is a racist & fascist.
There is a reason that Nick Griffins popularity is skyrocketing and that is because alot of people are waking up and saying "Enough is Enough"
His support is not "skyrocketing". The good people who may have voted BNP have cut their hand off to fix a broken finger, and the racists who vote
BNP are not the type of people you want to be in the same room as.
Look I know that I must appear to have VERY strong views but even not as a British citizen, I know that if Nick Griffin did get into power, well..
Then white people would live better, there would be less crime, the job shortage would be all but over,
I haven't seen any capability of running a country shown by the BNP. It seems to me that their only policies are immigration. They don't know or
seem to even care about running the rest of the country.
There's always short-term gains in fascist doctrines, that lead to hatred that fuels the worst in humanity shortly afterwards.
Here's something for you to consider: If we exterminate all the muslims, then we won't get any more islamic wars. How about if we just exterminate
the whole human race, then we won't have any more economic problems to worry about. Both solve a few problems, just forget the bigger ones that they
Nick Griffin separates people into 3 groups.
1) The Ethnically British - The Irish, Scotts, Welsh and English
2) The Civicly British - People from foreign lands who come to England for a better life and ready to assimilate into the deep culture that is English
3) The rest - Everyone who comes to Britain bringing their own beliefs and not at all ready to assimilate.
And I wonder if this definition of "assimilate into culture" can vary as much as the BNP's definition of "indigenous"!
It is the 3rd group who Nick Griffin and a Large number of people from the UK do NOT believe belong in England. What is so wrong with deporting
them? There are other cultures in the world (who actually make up the majority of group 3) who wouldnt be happy with just deporting you from their
native lands.. oh no... They would stone you.
Griffin associates himself with KKK ideals behind closed-doors. This is his way of pretending to have more moderate views. The BNP have not even
defined in their policies who is to be deported clearly enough to distinguish it from fascism.
Allowing someone to settle for a few years and then dragging them to the airport where they receive stoning punishment after returning to their
homeland as a traitor for daring to speak about the atrocites & repression they have witnessed, is just as bad a crime, if not worse. Oh I'm sorry
Miss, but you aren't wearing English clothes, so you must leave right away, and it's tough if the islamic regime want to rape you and then stone you
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