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Topic started on 4-12-2009 @ 09:46 PM by GradyPhilpott

Woman arrested for trying to record 'Twilight' on digital camera

www.suntimes.com

Taping three minutes of “Twilight: New Moon” during a visit to a Rosemont movie theater landed Samantha Tumpach in a jail cell for two nights.

Managers contacted police, who examined the small digital camera, which also records video segments, Cmdr. Frank Siciliano said. Officers found that Tumpach had taped “two very short segments” of the movie — no more than four minutes total, he said.

Tumpach was arrested after theater managers insisted on pressing charges, he said.

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reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 09:46 PM by GradyPhilpott

The woman "...was charged with criminal use of a motion picture exhibition."

Has there ever been a time when business was more litigious toward their customers?

I recognize that businesses and the creators of "intellectual property" must protect their interests. However, when something as innocent as a birthday party and a few minutes of "pirated" footage puts a woman in jail for two days on felony charges, it might be time for revolution.

Not violent revolution, of course, but a revolution of the people against the products that give these corporations so much power and the hubris to abuse such power.

Surely, these charges will be dropped at some point or the woman in question will be acquitted, but in the meantime consider the emotional distress that she has been forced to suffer.

It really is time for common sense to be restored in the prosecution of the law and in cases like these, the people can influence change with their choices in entertainment.

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reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 09:57 PM by ModernAcademia

dude people spent time in lock up for no reasons a thousand times a night
that's how common lock up is

all that is required is a phone call
absolutely anyone can spend lock up time just because of a baseless phone call

reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 10:00 PM by GradyPhilpott

Firstly, I'm not "dude."

Secondly, did you have something substantive to add to the discussion?

[edit on 2009/12/4 by GradyPhilpott]

reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 11:30 PM by orwellianunenlightenment

reply to post by GradyPhilpott

Revolution, by definition, just brings us around to the same thing, the same story, the same drama, the same dynamic. In a revolution, the revolutionaries will become the corporate buttholes, and the corporate buttholes will become the disenfranchised. The disenfranchised, at least those perceiving themselves this way, will revolt yet again, etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum. We are not merry-go-rounds. It is time we stop running in circles. Think about it. Cry about it if that helps. Anything to penetrate THE WALL around our perceptions.

[edit on 4-12-2009 by orwellianunenlightenment]

reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 11:39 PM by Kryties

Silly woman, the Twilight cam has been on the torrent sites for ages now, she could have just downloaded it and saved herself a night or two in jail lol.....

reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 11:43 PM by orwellianunenlightenment

reply to post by GradyPhilpott

It was being conveyed that the laws of the land are labyrinthine. This is hardly unusual. Smoke a joint. Jail. Piss of the wrong cop; get a joint planted on you; jail. Say the wrong thing to the wrong person; disorderly conduct; jail. Piss of a federal douche; trumped up charges; federal prison. I do not live in fear, as their ludicrous, self-serving, parasitical system is dissolving before my very eyes. However, many citizens would still be happy just to swap roles. Not me. I dissolve both roles of master/slave simultaneously. The wise among us plant seeds, and it crumbles. Revolution isn't necessary. Evolution is. You can't hit somebody in the face in order to convince them to not hit somebody in the face. Action, reaction. Mindless. This logic sans emotion reconciled runs into a wall. Logos and Pathos must interact to form a beautiful mind. Warring logic and emotion envelop to form a pathology.

I have a mind. Many do. More and more do each day. WAKE UP. The dominoes are falling.

reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 11:58 PM by GradyPhilpott

I use the word revolution broadly, as I thought I explained.

Computer use has revolutionized entertainment access with hardly a drop of blood.

The industries have failed to meet the demands of the new era and have waged war against the consumers and in doing so have lumped ordinary folk with the real criminals whom they would like to prosecute.

This story is not so much about a woman's two nights in jail as it is about a culture that refuses to revolutionize these industries by seeking their entertainment elsewhere.

The entertainment industries have the right to protect their interests, but their total war, take no prisoners, approach is an outrage.

Combine this one incident with all those lawsuits against ten-year-olds sharing files on the internet and you get a picture of a population of consumers who allow these abuses to continue by continuing to open their wallets.

The intent might be honorable, but the methods are insane.

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 12:43 AM by rnaa

reply to post by GradyPhilpott

Woman arrested for trying to record 'Twilight' on digital camera The woman "...was charged with criminal use of a motion picture exhibition." Has there ever been a time when business was more litigious toward their customers?

She is a thief (subject to innocent until proven guilty, of course). Pure and simple.

OK, it isn't the crime of the century, but she is, never the less, a thief.

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 12:49 AM by john124

reply to post by rnaa

Bravo!

A common sense posting!

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 12:58 AM by Titen-Sxull

reply to post by GradyPhilpott

Personally I think anyone seeing a Twilight movie should be arrested just for that fact

That beings said she did break the law, can't really argue that she didn't. Never understood the logic of filming a movie while in the theater, there are people around you AND the video quality is going to be inherently terrible.

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 04:31 PM by Koka

Originally posted by rnaa
She is a thief (subject to innocent until proven guilty, of course). Pure and simple.

OK, it isn't the crime of the century, but she is, never the less, a thief.

I don't believe she actually stole anything, did she?

As I understand it, she had copied/filmed two 4 minute segments of the film, I'm not sure how this would effect the 100's of millions sold in cinema tickets or DVD and Blu-ray sales or merchandising. Two low quality 4 minute videos are not going to attract that much attention on any torrent site and would not be allowed to be placed on to Youtube, so to me, the guy who called the police is a vicious, vindictive fool who's cinema should be boycotted.

She could quite easily have been escorted from the premises and banned, but no, for some, it's far better to crack a walnut with a hand grenade.

Gradyphilpott, as much as I would prefer a velvet revolution, I tend to think it will inevitably be a far more violent revolution that will force the change, unfortunately I'm not overly confident I will like what comes after the revolution.

[edit on 5-12-2009 by Koka]

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 04:31 PM by superdebz

having to watch that #ty movie should be enough punishment

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 04:37 PM by St Udio

Just last night... Friday the 4th... i was lying in bed thinking of just how Pirated movies could be made , in a public Theatre---
with a ticket buyer person with a hand-held camera....

i think the result would look like a spastic camera...
and unworthy to watch ...let alone to 'buy' ...knowing its a bootleg copy

ergo; the 'felon' was only interested in a personal souvenior, a memento, a modern day 'snap shot' for their own reflections-of-days-gone-by

[edit on 5-12-2009 by St Udio]

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 05:15 PM by GradyPhilpott

reply to post by rnaa

Did you read the article?

I think not.

What good is four minutes of video of film interspersed with shots of a birthday party?

None would be my guess.

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 05:17 PM by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by Koka

Gradyphilpott, as much as I would prefer a velvet revolution, I tend to think it will inevitably be a far more violent revolution that will force the change, unfortunately I'm not overly confident I will like what comes after the revolution.

I don't think that the entertainment industry is worth so much as a paper cut, when spending money elsewhere would do the trick, but that's just me.

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 05:20 PM by ROBL240

If I was at the cinema I'd be glad she was escorted out.
She obviously has NO concern for anyone else who was watching the movie, if she was legally doing what she say she was.
I'd sure be pissed if I was watching a film and some girls just start bursting out at the top of their lungs for 4 minutes singing "Happy Birthday" in the Cinema.

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 05:36 PM by calstorm

The movie its self is a crime. Those 4 minutes probably lowered her IQ by 4 points.
As far as what she did being an actual crime? I guess technically it is, but I watch pirated movies all the time. Don't ya know your supposed to use one of those pen looking camras?Pen camcorder
Not that I am advocating this or anything, because I am not. I have to add that right?

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 05:47 PM by Koka

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I don't think that the entertainment industry is worth so much as a paper cut, when spending money elsewhere would do the trick, but that's just me.

The revolution I was speaking of is not restricted to the entertainment industry.

reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 06:30 PM by stumason

Isn't a criminal offence to take any kind of recording technology into a theatre?

If so, then it's open and shut really.

here in the UK, they have signs up warning people not to take any camera's etc as it is an offence. Surely there would have been notices too in that Cinema?

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