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If you can do it why not collect the million dollar Amazing Randi Prize?
Originally posted by FortAnthem
Interesting thread.
I'm Catholic so I would still be leary about demonic possession and meeting negative entities. This has made me reluctant to investigate this further.
It is interesting that they say astral projection strenthen's faith. If someone's faith includes angels and demons, would astral projection reinforce this belief? Are these elements (angels and demons) encountered by those of other faiths who do not believe in such things?
Are there any resources you would reccomend for someone interested to learn more about astral projection?
[edit on 4-12-2009 by FortAnthem]
Originally posted by RRokkyyIf you can do it why not collect the million dollar Amazing Randi Prize?
www.randi.org...
The Foundation is committed to providing reliable information about paranormal claims. It both supports and conducts original research into such claims.
Pavel has suggested instead that we use a massive number of photographs divided into small groups, and then smaller groups, and then smaller groups until he is identifying pairs of photos out of groups of five (and all groups of five are the same). The number of photographs needed for the test as Pavel has written it is simply unrealistic. I have run this information by other JREF staff as well as the JREF statistician consultant, and everyone agrees that it will be difficult (if not impossible) to control the test once it reaches those numbers.
Not only that, but this version of the test would also be expensive for Pavel. He would, of course, have to pay the cost of printing, the cost of all the envelopes, etc.
Originally posted by highlyoriginal
Myth 20 : Astral projection doesn't prove life after death.
Truth : People, who have experienced proper conscious OOBE even
once, start to strongly believe in life after death. Finding
themselves outside their physical bodies and still functioning,
still able to see, hear, touch, even smell and taste, still able
to do everything and more, how can anyone deny that life goes on?
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Originally posted by FortAnthem
Interesting thread.
I'm Catholic so I would still be leary about demonic possession and meeting negative entities. This has made me reluctant to investigate this further.
It is interesting that they say astral projection strenthen's faith. If someone's faith includes angels and demons, would astral projection reinforce this belief? Are these elements (angels and demons) encountered by those of other faiths who do not believe in such things?
Are there any resources you would reccomend for someone interested to learn more about astral projection?
[edit on 4-12-2009 by FortAnthem]
Originally posted by theRiverGoddess
I feel sorry for the Catholic people & the things they adhere strongly too.......its a shame when RELIGION clouds true spiritual experiences with dogma.
Originally posted by eight bits
In other words, like everybody else who has a million dollars, Randi or his foundation may make a gift of one million dollars or they may decline to make such a gift, as they see fit. There is nothing in the law to prevent them from describing this situation as a "challenge," or announcing a fixed application procedure for someone to ask them to consider making a gift.
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The oft-repeated observation that "nobody has made it past the preliminary tests," is also, by an amazing coincidence, to say that nobody has perfected any legal obligation whatsoever for Randi or his foundation to give anybody any money if some specific condition should happen.
Until then, he and JREF can continue to say they'll give a million to anybody who makes a big enough impression on Randi and his buddies. It is, after all, a free country.
.......
That is not the case with the "Randi challenge."
The contract between the claimant and JREF is binding enough that the JREF must pay the prize if someone wins it.
Originally posted by eight bits
Your copy paste establishes no legal obligation for JREF to award the money, ever.
Originally posted by unityemissions
First off, I've had visions since I was young. They may have been out of body experiences, they may have been an overactive imagination. I do think that our subconscious is incredibly powerful, and can teach us in many ways.
That being the case, I see no good reason to think that these experiences are any indication of life after death. The subconscious seems quite able to hold an accurate memory of our surroundings experienced. It teaches in symbols, metaphors, etc.
Originally posted by highlyoriginal
Myth 20 : Astral projection doesn't prove life after death.
Truth : People, who have experienced proper conscious OOBE even
once, start to strongly believe in life after death. Finding
themselves outside their physical bodies and still functioning,
still able to see, hear, touch, even smell and taste, still able
to do everything and more, how can anyone deny that life goes on?
_______________________________________________________________
A clear indication that this is just the mind experiencing itself is how another question mentioned seeing negative entities which could be transformed by one's will. What? How could this be, unless these entities are simply a product of an imaginative mindset?
I've been to planets and spoke with aliens. Seen aliens invade the earth. Floated above my body. Flown across my city. Shot straight up into outer space, only to lean back slightly and enjoy the ride back down. Trampolined into the upper atmosphere from a cruise ship, only to be plunged into the ocean abyss, making my way back to the waves to experience the thought of no escaping death. Have jumped off a cliff, and actually sunk into the ground, becoming one with it, etc...all incredibly vivid and while being acutely aware.
They are our subconscious teaching us. No more, or less.